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[refrain]

I think the problem is that I ran out of ammo when I reach the boss. Maybe it's time to grind my newly obtained Suzuya and Kumano. What LV should be enough for them?

[Lantern]

You can also use RJ/Choukai for the branching in case you already have them.

I don't know what level will be enough. Mogami-class themselves are pretty weak for this map. In my runs SuzuKuma rarely made it into night battle without being orange (or worse, not making it at all) despite being Lv.99s themselves. So just try the best you can.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Lantern

Not just the final form. The initial form has higher stat in hard mode even if their sprite are exactly the same (ez modo/medium: 200 armor vs hard mode: 220 armor).

Must be an incredible amount of bad luck then.
Ido it on hard too and usually Mutsu just crits her for 2x at least 125 dmg, followed by Kongou doing the same.

Onyl time I seem to have trouble killing her is when one of her escorts survives.
I'll try shelling support on the next run to see if it changes anything in that regard

@refrain:
Why do you run out of Ammo?
Doesn't your fleet go like : A-->C-->F-->I --> or B-->D-->F-->I-->N ?

Only other thing I can suggest is using a Saiun to avoid negative T-Crossings.

[cloud04]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Must be an incredible amount of bad luck then.
Ido it on hard too and usually Mutsu just crits her for 2x at least 125 dmg, followed by Kongou doing the same.

Onyl time I seem to have trouble killing her is when one of her escorts survives.
I'll try shelling support on the next run to see if it changes anything in that regard

@refrain:
Why do you run out of Ammo?
Doesn't your fleet go like : A-->C-->F-->I --> or B-->D-->F-->I-->N ?

Only other thing I can suggest is using a Saiun to avoid negative T-Crossings.

that would just rekt u if you get that before boss

[AC-Phoenix]

^
That is exacly what I do though...
And yes sometimes one of my carriers gets rhekt, but I still have enough ammunition to kill the boss.

I use diamond on the airial node btw, seems to negate a lot of damage due to the better reppu performance.

[refrain]

This is pretty confusing. If I can't beat her now, how can I beat her when she reachs her final form? I don't know what's wrong with my fleet anymore

[chaosprophet]

Currently 15 runs on E-6 Hard and calling it a day. Funny that my first 7 runs were pretty good, reached the boss every time, didn't even need to use the commander facility, got 3 kills and 4 reds. But after I unlocked the final form of the boss, I didn't reach it 4 times. And the 4 times I reached it just felt like punching a wall. Didn't really do well in any of those four times. And before final form I was using only Boss support, while I started using both after.

They say all roads lead to Rome, but I have yet to meet Roma. And she seems to be a not that hard drop considering many did get her as they were clearing it. Seems like I will also have to farm her later.

[Lantern]

Originally Posted by refrain

This is pretty confusing. If I can't beat her now, how can I beat her when she reachs her final form? I don't know what's wrong with my fleet anymore

So what exactly happens during the boss fight?

Q1. Has your fleet taken a lot damage before the boss battle?

Q2. Do they take too much damage during the boss battle? i.e. aerial phase, shelling phase etc.

Q3. Do they keep on missing their targets?

Q4. Do they keep on trying to attack the boss during the day?

Q5. How many of your girls make it into night usually? How many enemies?

Q6. Is it that everything went right, you cleared out all escorts and is left with boss at night, yet your fleet can't seem to do any good damage to her?

[refrain]

Originally Posted by Lantern

So what exactly happens during the boss fight?

Q1. Has your fleet taken a lot damage before the boss battle?

Q2. Do they take too much damage during the boss battle? i.e. aerial phase, shelling phase etc.

Q3. Do they keep on missing their targets?

Q4. Do they keep on trying to attack the boss during the day?

Q5. How many of your girls make it into night usually? How many enemies?

Q6. Is it that everything went right, you cleared out all escorts and is left with boss at night, yet your fleet can't seem to do any good damage to her?

Q1. Depend on my luck but usually my fleet is still fine when reaching the boss

Q2. If my support fleet couldn't kill the BB then maybe one of my ship will get medium or criticaled by it. The boss keep attacking SS no no problem in day battle

Q3. Not really but the damages are pitiful. Especially to the BB

Q4. This is kinda random

Q5. Usually there'll be the boss and the BB left in night battle

Q6. Yes

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by refrain

Q6. Yes

What level are your ships?

[Lantern]

Uh... I know this is unlikely for you but, your fleet is max modernized right? What level are they? Cuz even my SuzuKuma were able to heavily damage the BB Kai if not landing the killing blow.

[refrain]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

What level are your ships?

Originally Posted by Lantern

Uh... I know this is unlikely for you but, your fleet is max modernized right? What level are they? Cuz even my SuzuKuma were able to heavily damage the BB Kai if not landing the killing blow.

Tone 72, Maya 76, Yamashiro 81, Musashi 60, Kaga 70 and Ro 95
They are all max modernized

[Lantern]

....................... I have no idea what's going on in that case. I doubt it would be silly things like forgetting the Sanshiki or things like that.

How about giving it a couple more tries if your resource can handle it? Because unless you can level a pair of SuzuKuma or MogaMiku or Choukai/RJ to Lv.50 in a week they aren't really gonna help much because they will still get wrecked hard at the boss (except maybe Choukai).

[Scarletknive]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Must be an incredible amount of bad luck then.
Ido it on hard too and usually Mutsu just crits her for 2x at least 125 dmg, followed by Kongou doing the same.

Onyl time I seem to have trouble killing her is when one of her escorts survives.
I'll try shelling support on the next run to see if it changes anything in that regard.

It helps. Shelling support may kill a few escorts (I would say 1-3 of them if you are lucky.) before fight begins, allowing you to deal with lesser enemies. If you are not lucky (6x miss)..., good luck. (I even used it on E5 medium for final form.)

Tbh, I have no problem clearing E5 initial form for the boss (But that is medium, which I think can make a difference in initial form (Boss armor is lower than hard.).) Probably try shelling support?

It seems like you are using a sub for tanking. Like what Klashikari said, there are pros and cons for using a sub for E5. Pros is tanking those DDs and even the boss (Thus lowering the damage dealt to the other ships.). Cons is since the DDs and CLs are using the ASW combo, your SS will get hurt really bad, and her attacks will not reach the boss (Torpedoes cannot hit Land base bosses.).

I heard reports of Yuu dropping in E6 easy mode... Any confirmation? (I have no choice but to do hard as I cleared E6 on hard, but I want to confirm for a friend of mine.)

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Scarletknive

It helps. Shelling support may kill a few escorts (I would say 1-3 of them if you are lucky.) before fight begins, allowing you to deal with lesser enemies. If you are not lucky (6x miss)..., good luck. (I even used it on E5 medium for final form.)

I heard reports of Yuu dropping in E6 easy mode... Any confirmation? (I have no choice but to do hard as I cleared E6 on hard, but I want to confirm for a friend of mine.)

Yeah i started using it too after my 4th or 5th try too now. Atm I'm just sitting at the final form and can't kill her due to something always survivng and Mutsu thinking its a good idea to attack that instead of the hime...

Then kongou somehow managed to put the Hime down enough so Atago's shot ges her down to 8Hp and what happens? Second shot missed

Edit:
Finally done...

E5-Hard:
Buckets Used: I lost track due to apparently writing down a wrong number (or recieved 25 buckets while doing e5) - my guess is between 55 and 65
Ressources: A whole bunch; and around 5 damcons
Fs Mutsu(75) 2x x 46cm, Night Scout, Type 3
Kongou(80) 2x 41cm, Recon, Type 3
Atago(57) Recon, Type 3; 2x 15.5 triple (2x 20.3 in the last run)
Kaga(71) reppu, reppu, repuu, Saiun
Hiryuu(57) Ryuusei Kai, Reppu, Ryussei Kai, 62 Zero
Goya(79) Enhanced Steam Engine, Damcon

Fazit:
Most frustrating one of all; After a while I suddenly started to always miss the targets, ships getting rekt on the way to the final kill and so on.
The Air node on the other hand was imho rather easy (using Diamond) and barely caused me any real pain. What did cause me a lot of pain though was the Ta at Node C.
I started using the suppot fleet after the 4th or 5th kill.
A few tries might have been unecessay as I accidentally didn't go into night battle when I first fought her in her final form.

Edit: Finally found who suggested the tubine again:
Thanks Sheba, the turbine suggestion really helped making this less painful; I don't even want to think how many more damcon's I would have needed without equipping it.

Notable drops: Isokaze (First or Second kill) and Yahagi

[Sheba]

My misadventures in E6 HARD MODO

I think I had a total of 15 runs, give or take but more like give. I tried both compositions (surface vs carrier combined fleet) and they had both their merits. And don't do like me: Don't pick the middle route EVER. Whereas I fear a lot for my Squishies (the escort fleet), Carrier fleet could allow me to get over 400 AS if I played my cards right (CarDiv1 as Reppu and 601st Group Reppu mules, Souryuu with two reppu and two torps, and Hiryuu with full torps). I found out that LoS check was never a problem. In carrier fleet, the two BBs were Yamato and Nagato.

But whether I choose Surface or Carrier fleet, I soon found out that I'll never be able to skip a Yasen node since ALL THREE routes had one Two routes have yasen node and one in the middle have E5 boss which sucks ass. So there, it was a gamble. And that one carrier bitch, Evil Kaga I think, more than often cockblocked me.

Few kills or scratches down the road, I found myself discovering what it meant to be like a redshirt from Shingeki no Kyojin. Because Evil Kaga decided to join the party along a Black Ru Shooter.

In two instances it ended like this

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So I tried one time with carrier fleet and the one time with surface fleet again. And I decided to swap Bukki in Team Squishies with Ayanami.

Two more tries and one reached the boss.

The night battle started like this

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Like no way Jintsuu, Haguro and my DD can whitle down the flagship right?

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Haguro, Jintsuu and Ayanami decided to do it wrong, kinda, and spread their damage against the boss and Evil Kaga.

Then Poi did the right thing:

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Poi is Love Poi is Life Poi is Eternal

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Then Kitakami decided to neutralize who could potentially ruin my day (she is equiped with dual yellow pasta guns and midget subs btw).

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One thing I have learned in my TTK young career. There is one universal rule in Kancolle events: If you sent Kitakami and Ooi together in a sortie for a boss kill, if Kitakami got hurt. May God have mercy on the Abyssals souls for they brought the hammer of Ooicchi down on them. This is one thing the final episode of the anime got right:

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I used both suport fleets for the final attempts, this could explain the huge dent on my resources. Now enjoying the rewards and unsure about farming E5 for Smug Himecut Saber and E6 for a Yuu duplicate...

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One hilarious thing about E6

Yamato before E6

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Yamato AFTER the E6 final kill

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Surface fleet:

Main team:

Yamato
Nagato
Mutsu
Maya
Ryuujou
Jun'you

Sometimes I swapped RJ and Jun'you for Kaga and Purin/Kirishima.

Team Squishies

Yuubari then switched to Jintsuu after the first run
Kongou then switched to Haguro for the final kill (Haguro had more punch in night battles)
Fubuki (for AACI redundancy measure) then switched to Ayanami
Yuudachi
Kitakami
Ooi

Carrier Fleet

Yamato
Nagato
Kaga
Akagi
Souryuu
Hiryuu

Team Squishies stayed the same.

Resource before E6

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Resources after E6

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At least I got Roma out of the deal, so I welcome one more CV and two more FBB. And one AV I will likely never know the purpose unless there is some obscure as shit branching rule in a event map.

[Lantern]

^ Middle route doesn't have night battle node... although the Anchorage node on that path is arguably worse

[refrain]

Finally able to kill her. The night battle setup really helped A LOT! Thank you all

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Lantern

^ Middle route doesn't have night battle node... although the Anchorage node on that path is arguably worse

Yes, I totally forgot about that. The lack of sleep is not helping (only slept two hours because my body clock is used to graveyard shifts. And my dream was "I MUST KILL THAT BOSS IN E6! I WILL KILL THAT FUCKING BOSS IN E6!")

[Scarletknive]

Originally Posted by Sheba

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I know right? Mine was worst at the last kill. 2 instances got the boss to Taiha during killzone (No Screenshots because my sanity loss was 30.), Both has the Evil Kaga surviving till Night Battle.

Got to agree with the Ooi/KTKM combo. (Though it was Shigure in my team who did the final kill.)

Dat resouce loss. Guess this is what happens if I use a Yamato class...

For me, its Node M (The node right before the boss.) which is giving me problems (That Evil Kaga really like to boom at least one of my ships to red. ).