2010-08-15, 12:06 | Link #2441 |
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Of course. I was mostly saying that if you include Sakura as a hook for a sequel, you gotta include Ilya too. But either way, I do agree that there isn't enough to make a true sequel of.
That being said, more routes please~ That was one of the best parts about the game: being able to make the most minor of decision changes and having the outcome be so radically altered. Ilya route! Oh, more Tiger Dojo too (surprised they haven't done a Tiger Dojo mini anime like they did with Haruhi-chan). |
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2010-08-15, 14:33 | Link #2444 |
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Well...I just finished getting all of the tiger stamps and watched the final, final Dojo. They actually talk about a lot of stuff. And one thing that I found most important was that they described HF's true end as the grande finale of the game. Just something to think about.
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P.S. I find it funny how so many diverging opinions form on this visual novel depending on which heroine you like best and which route you like best (Though they often coincide).
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I think the best sequel would be in name only. Let's have the 7th Grail War or something. Even though much of the mystery would be gone, they could still come up with something to keep us compelled.
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Okay, CL, Sakura does not matter in any other path than HF, so please stop trying to say that she does. Saber, Rin, and Ilya all have critical roles in each path, while Sakura has only a role in her own, therefore making her a less important character. Whether you like it or not, that's how it plays out, so please stop trying to make her sound like the most important person in the story, it's been bothering many of us for a while.
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And I liked UBW's good end the best because you had Rin x Shirou x Saber.
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I don't care if you think Ilya is a more important character than Sakura, even though she's not (Ilya is barely mentioned in UBW, except as a plot device, and even in Fate she's just an enemy to be defeated and then a little kid for Shirou to look after), that's just your opinion. Last edited by Cherry_Lover; 2010-08-16 at 14:31. |
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2010-08-16, 12:23 | Link #2458 |
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And you're trying to stuff your beliefs down my throat. Whilst you're perhaps right that, overall, Sakura has less involvement than Saber or Rin, she certainly has more than Ilya.
Anyway, that's beside the point, because her situation is not resolved in the other two routes, and even if you don't care about her, it matters to Rin and Shirou. Plus, if you don't deal with it, then she is left out of the sequel, and that would mean alienating her fans. And, if you actually bothered to read what I said, I quite expressly stated that they wouldn't do a sequel based on any of the routes (including HF) because it would mean missing out at least 3 of the six most popular characters (Archer and at least two of Ilya, Rider and Saber, plus Sakura unless they deal with her issues) and that would alienate a lot of people. As for my post, I'd like you to point out to me where I was saying that Sakura was the "most important person in the story". I merely agreed that HF is the only route without any loose ends (it was someone else's statement, not mine), which is true, and stated that any other route would require either dealing with or ignoring Sakura's situation (which is also true), and that them ignoring it is something that I would find infuriating. All of those things are entirely factually true statements, and have no specific Sakura bias. I even quite clearly stated that any route would leave out important characters. And, you can't deny that Sakura is an important character in the game as a whole, even if she's not the most important. Last edited by Cherry_Lover; 2010-08-16 at 14:35. |
2010-08-16, 12:36 | Link #2459 |
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SO...while getting my stamps I was wondering what the deal was with the worm rape with Rin in the 40th bad end. I expected there to be a lot more detail from what everyone was talking about regarding it.
There really is a lot of added info in the dojos. They surely are not to be overlooked. The only thing I didn't like was how Saber, Rin & Sakura were drawn, but that's just my taste after all.
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2010-08-16, 12:44 | Link #2460 |
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I think the issue there is more what is implied (through Sakura's words) to have happened than what is shown to have happened. Rin fans, oddly enough, don't like the thought of her being put through eleven years of worm rape (although many of them seem stranglely unsympathetic towards Sakura when she went through it...), and they blame Sakura for it even though by that point she's quite clearly gone totally and irredeemably insane (even Shirou realises that she is) thanks to Rin's rather unfortunate tendancy to come down with foot-in-mouth disease at the worst possible moments....
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