Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 12 Discussion / Poll

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Ultima_Rasengan05

knights??...uhh, she has 4, Signum, Vita, Shamal, and Zafira...unless you're only counting the combat knights, that would be 2, Signum and Vita...

also, TSAB is quick to evacuate people.....Hayate's Diabolic Emission didn't affect any civilians as the buildings all look empty and deserted.

Don't mind Chaos...since you can't see his sarcasm. His mind automatically turns off the word "Zafira" since he's getting shafted as a character. Sure, he had appearances, fight scenes...but at the expense of his "humanity." So, until Zafira shows us his muscles and worth...we'll assume there's just one invisible guard dog. Knight? Whut knight?

And there was no evacuation... That part of the city just HAD to be coincidentally uninhabited...so, they can spam spells all they want.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Ultima_Rasengan05

knights??...uhh, she has 4, Signum, Vita, Shamal, and Zafira...unless you're only counting the combat knights, that would be 2, Signum and Vita...

Hmm... I don't know, I haven't seen a 'Zafira' around... Not even in the fanarts!

Anybody else knows a Zafira?

Originally Posted by Ultima_Rasengan05

yea from page one until 7 (I'm too tired to go on....), everyone's just saying about how an ass this general is...plus the speculation of corruption within the TSAB...Jealousy perhaps??...or he just doesn't like the idea of having someone who was the main cause of the "Yami no sho" case being on the battlefield...and with no knowledge on how her magic can cause devastating damage around the surrounding area...

The speculation of corruption is just base on over-hype

To be honest, I don't think it's jealousy even though it looks like it. He just Despise the fact that someone who had commit a crime before had been let off and is now even working for them.

I'm also surprised that as a general of Ground Forces, he hasn't heard the news that Hayate formed her own department and has been so for more than a month...

Perhaps there's a reason nobody wants him to know?

Originally Posted by Ultima_Rasengan05

also, TSAB is quick to evacuate people.....Hayate's Diabolic Emission didn't affect any civilians as the buildings all look empty and deserted.

Apparently, they popped up in an abandon area... Most likely the same place where Subaru and Teana had their B ranked test...

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

oh, uninhabited city...well that makes sense, I was really wondering what was gonna happen to all the people who were living in those buildings...anyways that part of the city looks all too similar to the hologram practice arenas that the forwards have been using in the past episodes for training...

lol @ chaos not wanting to know about Zafira...it is true though, he is part of the cast, but isn't showing much screen time, much alone action time...

hmm, mr. gound forces general not knowing about the formation of RF6!?...this could sound bad for Chrono and maybe for all of RF6...there might be some consequences in the future, as he did looked and sounded kinda pissed about Hayate and RF6 and its supporters...but the assistant, she smells just as fishy as this guy...

as for the destruction of TSAB...is it really over hyped or is it really not...I'd say over hyped for now, unless that general starts to show some REAL signs of betrayal...but then again, we can't blame him for being all pissed off and not knowing about RF6 or about Hayate being on the field, even though she is found to be the cause of the "yami no sho" case...

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Don't mind Chaos...since you can't see his sarcasm. His mind automatically turns off the word "Zafira" since he's getting shafted as a character. Sure, he had appearances, fight scenes...but at the expense of his "humanity." So, until Zafira shows us his muscles and worth...we'll assume there's just one invisible guard dog. Knight? Whut knight?

Hey, I didn't start it , it was the producers who decided to put him on the team, but then never used him for anything noticable ... And also all those fanart artists who conveniently left him out in 90% of all Hayate's family art

It just so happens that recently I decided to take it out

[Thisguy]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Hey, I didn't start it , it was the producers who decided to put him on the team, but then never used him for anything noticable ... And also all those fanart artists who conveniently left him out in 90% of all Hayate's family art

It just so happens that recently I decided to take it out

Still, that's just... nasty, aint it

Several more notesfrom me on this Ep;

- Although very suprised that Nanoha blocked it at all, Dieci expressed that her blast was not at full power.
Unless it was her sour grape, how far she could go if she decides to go all-out...
Her SS rank artillery overpowering SLB, anyone?

- Quattro was seen wearing jacked over her shoulder, and Dieci had mantle over her untill she disposed it.
Tre's been flying without any external outfit, so these clothes are obviously their preference.
...Am I too quick to think that they're treated in not bad manner, as in able to choose clothes of their choice?

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by Thisguy

- Quattro was seen wearing jacked over her shoulder, and Dieci had mantle over her untill she disposed it.
Tre's been flying without any external outfit, so these clothes are obviously their preference.
...Am I too quick to think that they're treated in not bad manner, as in able to choose clothes of their choice?

I would imagine so. While I'd imagine that they wear their suits primarily for function, being able to select any outfit they want seems to indicate that they have that much freedom at least. Also, their personalities also seem to point to that conclusion, since they don't seem to feel oppressed or anything in that matter.

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Thisguy

- Quattro was seen wearing jacked over her shoulder, and Dieci had mantle over her untill she disposed it.
Tre's been flying without any external outfit, so these clothes are obviously their preference.
...Am I too quick to think that they're treated in not bad manner, as in able to choose clothes of their choice?

They're Scaglietti's. How bad could that be?

Okay, my fanboyism aside... of course, purely speculation and the next episode will make or break Scaglietti/Agito, but Agito clearly has some disdain towards Numbers in general, not wanting their assistance, and not just Scaglietti alone... which possibly means that Agito, unlike Lutecia probably wasn't directly affliated with the good doctor. I mean...Lutecia's clearly a subject to his "playtime", but to her...a Jail is fine too. And Zest too doesn't really look like he was something of Scaglietti's... since he refers to him in a mildly professional tone, adding the title Knight when talking to him.

There's also the possibility that Scaglietti gives authorative control and management of the younger Numbers to Uno, while he indulge in boring science stuff...seeing how they all report to her first-hand rather than going straight to the doctor from the way they talk about getting scolded by Uno-neesama... Being sisters, possibly of similar kin, surely their relationship can't be all that bad?

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

Dieci's blast not being at "full power"?!
now thats an unexpected surprise, and if it is true, it could rival the Starlight Breaker...and Nanoha was just lucky to defend against that blast, since it wasn't full power...unless Dieci was also anticipating the arrival of someone to defend against the blast and decided to play around and make that blast not at "full power" mode...

also, if RF6 ever encounter the Numbers again, they should have a much more better game plan...seems like the Numbers are all about surprises and tricks, doing anything they can to get their hands on the relics for their Ojou-sama, Lutecia...

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Thisguy

Still, that makes you one naughtly person in this subforum

I've done worse

Originally Posted by Thisguy

- Although very suprised that Nanoha blocked it at all, Dieci expressed that her blast was not at full power.
Unless it was her sour grape, how far she could go if she decides to go all-out...
Her SS rank artillery overpowering SLB, anyone?

She traded alot for that firepower though.

An Extreme range fighter, should the enemy catch up to her, she'll be finished.

Originally Posted by Thisguy

- Quattro was seen wearing jacked over her shoulder, and Dieci had mantle over her untill she disposed it.
Tre's been flying without any external outfit, so these clothes are obviously their preference.
...Am I too quick to think that they're treated in not bad manner, as in able to choose clothes of their choice?

*Shrugged*

I figure Jail would treat them the same way he had treated Uno ...

[Thisguy]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

She traded alot for that firepower though.

An Extreme range fighter, should the enemy catch up to her, she'll be finished.

Indeed, out of all numbers appeared so far, she's the only one that can't fly... well, unless Uno can't too, but should it the case, I'd be suprised.

But that's why there are other sisters, so far it's likely that each of their IS can at very least come close to Aces in their specific field.
Should one of Ace take several Numbers alone, I'd imagine Ace will be in serious trouble.

[Skane]

Originally Posted by Thisguy

~
- Although very suprised that Nanoha blocked it at all, Dieci expressed that her blast was not at full power.
Unless it was her sour grape, how far she could go if she decides to go all-out...
Her SS rank artillery overpowering SLB, anyone?
~

Neither was Nanoha.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Skane

Neither was Nanoha.

The funny part (at least to me) is that neither side knows the other were holding back

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

The funny part (at least to me) is that neither side knows the other were holding back

Does it even matter? We don't even know how much both sides were holding back, especially Nanoha since they're being ridiculously vague on "what" limiters were removed, since it was canonically proven that you don't need S-rank to block S-rank spells.

All we know is that X's holding back enough to not kill Vivio, if she is capable of that.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Does it even matter? We don't even know how much both sides were holding back, especially Nanoha since they're being ridiculously vague on "what" limiters were removed, since it was canonically proven that you don't need S-rank to block S-rank spells.

Of course it doesn't, but it's still funny to me...

...Not a 'LOL!' moment though... Just a good feeling.

Originally Posted by Nightengale

All we know is that X's holding back enough to not kill Vivio, if she is capable of that.

I'm pretty sure she made a rough guess

Or it could be possible that she's indestructable... By 'conventional' means.

[Jimmy C]

All we know is that X's holding back enough to not kill Vivio, if she is capable of that.

Not quite. That was Quattro saying if the girl really was the "material" they were looking for, she wouldn't go down to one blast.

[Proto]

My random guess:

The blabbermouth general secretary's is actually Uno in disguise. The doctor will use the airhead in order to weaken his enemies from both fronts.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

Not quite. That was Quattro saying if the girl really was the "material" they were looking for, she wouldn't go down to one blast.

Yeah, but how big of a blast are we talking about? And the fact that she held back hints that there may be a limit to how much she can take...

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Yeah, but how big of a blast are we talking about? And the fact that she held back hints that there may be a limit to how much she can take...

Somewhere between SB and SB+? With physical damage together, of course.

How about charge time? She seems to need some time to shoot a really powerful shot.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Somewhere between SB and SB+? With physical damage together, of course.

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...Yeah, I'm starting to lean towards Vivio being indestructable by 'conventional' means

Originally Posted by Nightengale

How about charge time? She seems to need some time to shoot a really powerful shot.

Most of them do anyway, look at Nanoha and Hayate...

Here's another thought, does she have more than one type of shot ?

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by ProtoMan

My random guess:

The blabbermouth general secretary's is actually Uno in disguise. The doctor will use the airhead in order to weaken his enemies from both fronts.

Actually thats a pretty good guess. Though everyone else pretty much guessed that that the secretaries up to no good. Her being Uno would be one of the greater twists in the story.