(L) Tasogare Otome x Amnesia Anime

[Randrak42]

Originally Posted by Salt

So which is it?

So Kirie can't see/interact with her but is aware of her? Only way to close the plot gap that I see.

Well...the whole thing about Kirie being able to see Yuuko is basically the whole point of 2 or 3 chapters (possibly 2 episodes). However the anime shows the time after these series of events and that she can see Yuuko.

It's understandable that some would be confused and others displeased since this messes the plot up slightly. (Being a manga reader it didn't affect me, but I did realize it would affect others immediately)

Personally I believe they should have just made the whole episode without Kirie at all.

[00Coyote]

Originally Posted by Salt

So which is it?

So Kirie can't see/interact with her but is aware of her? Only way to close the plot gap that I see.

Kirie, for various reasons, tries to ignore and distance herself from Yuuko, but she can definitely see, hear and interact with Yuuko.

The line inside the elevator was a artifact left over from when they re-arranged the order of events. I assume they didn't change the dialogue because it made the whole conversation more intimate, if not exactly accurate.

[Kismet-chan]

Originally Posted by DemiSoda

I find it comedy gold of how people like to put words into people's mouth and like to cherry pick and ignore entire posts. When did I ever say Another or Shiki or Ghost Hunt were the epitotome of perfect dark mystery/horror

I never even mentioned you in my post. Go figure.

[Tempest35]

Originally Posted by 00Coyote

Kirie, for various reasons, tries to ignore and distance herself from Yuuko, but she can definitely see, hear and interact with Yuuko.

The line inside the elevator was a artifact left over from when they re-arranged the order of events. I assume they didn't change the dialogue because it made the whole conversation more intimate, if not exactly accurate.

Honestly, one could interpt that Yuuko didn't want to count Kirie becasue she's obsessed with Niiya - at this point, she only wants Niiya's attentions an for all of his attentions to be focused on her. For Yuuko, interacting with Kirie does nothing for her since she has Niiya. And also, they annoy each other...

It's not that serious (Yuuko mentioning that only Niiya can interact with her) and it's not something that one can rationalize away without thinking too hard on it...

Spoiler for Allusion to future event:

Once we get there, when we see how those two met, one can connnect the dots in that way.

[Salt]

Originally Posted by Randrak42

Well...the whole thing about Kirie being able to see Yuuko is basically the whole point of 2 or 3 chapters (possibly 2 episodes). However the anime shows the time after these series of events and that she can see Yuuko.

It's understandable that some would be confused and others displeased since this messes the plot up slightly. (Being a manga reader it didn't affect me, but I did realize it would affect others immediately)

Personally I believe they should have just made the whole episode without Kirie at all.

Originally Posted by 00Coyote

Kirie, for various reasons, tries to ignore and distance herself from Yuuko, but she can definitely see, hear and interact with Yuuko.

The line inside the elevator was a artifact left over from when they re-arranged the order of events. I assume they didn't change the dialogue because it made the whole conversation more intimate, if not exactly accurate.

Ah, damn it. I shouldn't have read this thread. If no one pointed it out, the awareness-challenged me would not have noticed. xD

[Randrak42]

Originally Posted by Salt

Ah, damn it. I shouldn't have read this thread. If no one pointed it out, the awareness-challenged me would not have noticed. xD

No need to thank us citizen! Up, Up and Away! *flies away in tights and a cape*

[Random Wanderer]

It's really quite easy to just think of it as Yuuko not thinking of Kirie as someone she can spend time with like that. If Kirie had her way, she wouldn't have anything to do with Yuuko. So even with Kirie around, Teiichi really is the only one Yuuko can be close to. It also doesn't hurt that she fell in love with him fairly quickly after they met.

[Dr. Casey]

Alright, I'm watching the episode now. Five minutes into it, just felt like commenting that holy mother of fuck Kirie's expression scared me. First time I can recall an anime actually making me gasp, and it was mostly just a comedy bit. And Blonde Girl being completely oblivious to all the supernatural activity going on around her at the beginning was cute.

Welp, back to the episode then.

[BBOvenGuy]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

If Kirie had her way, she wouldn't have anything to do with Yuuko.

It did seem like she was trying to be as oblivious of Yuuko as possible, which only added to my confusion.

[GrimJack]

Originally Posted by BBOvenGuy

It did seem like she was trying to be as oblivious of Yuuko as possible, which only added to my confusion.

I didn't see that at all, she was commenting about Teichi and Yuuko flirting and reacting to what Yuuko was doing.

It is difficult to say what is going on with Kirie without major spoilage unfortunately, I am beginning to think it probably would have been better if they left her out this first chapter though

[Flawfinder]

Oh here is the ghost girl anime I mistook for Sankarea. Anyways, it was an okay first episode, but I never liked the manga, so I don't know if I'll stick with it.

[chaos_animagic]

Actually...

Spoiler for see:

everyone can see her if they "focus" on it...

But most just see a blurry undead thing...

But for now... Niiya and Kirie is just "special"


And I love Yuuko and her little pranks... LOL (NEKOMIMI) LOL...


BTW... I just noticed now... lately... most animes that came out last and this season... have alot of undead/ ghost theme... LOL

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by chaos_animagic

Spoiler for see:

everyone can see her if they "focus" on it...

But most just see a blurry undead thing...

Spoiler:

Anyone can see her if they believe there is something there to see, but their minds will show them the sort of thing they expect to see. At one point the club runs a haunted house for a school festival, with Yuuko successfully doing all the haunting herself. In a place like that people expect something scary, so they see her as something scary. Even Teiichi and Kirie's perception of her can change if they believe they'll see something else when they look at her.

A few other times people have unconsciously perceived her. She has been able to insert herself into conversations and ask questions, although after answering the people talking have no idea who they were talking to or why they said what they did. One time when playing cards Momoe set out cards for Yuuko as well as for the four living humans in the room, but found herself unable to figure out who the fifth person she thought was there was. And one time when Teiichi and Yuuko were both soaked in a rainstorm, they went in to the nurse's office and she gave them two towels, although afterwards she couldn't figure out who the second towel was supposed to have been for.

[GrimJack]

Originally Posted by Flawnalyst

Oh here is the ghost girl anime I mistook for Sankarea. Anyways, it was an okay first episode, but I never liked the manga, so I don't know if I'll stick with it.

That is funny I feel the same way about Sankarea lol

[bumbayker]

Originally Posted by Flawnalyst

Oh here is the ghost girl anime I mistook for Sankarea. Anyways, it was an okay first episode, but I never liked the manga, so I don't know if I'll stick with it.

If you didn't like the manga chances are you might not like the anime as well. The anime may be of a different medium but the core elements and plot will still be present. But I could be wrong and you might be one of the rare people to like the anime adaptation over the original source material.

[Lexxus]

I agree with some guys here that this series should have had follow Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai of first having an episode 0. I bet there won't be any confusion to the guys who didn't even read the original source.

Originally Posted by bumbayker

If you didn't like the manga chances are you might not like the anime as well. The anime may be of a different medium but the core elements and plot will still be present. But I could be wrong and you might be one of the rare people to like the anime adaptation over the original source material.

Whenever I read this, I remember Seto no Hanayome. I liked the anime adaptation more compare to the original source(manga).

[Archon_Wing]

MM, but Haganai Episode 0 was taken as a separate OVA that was made for fans; it wasn't broadcasted as part of the main series. It wasn't to introduce the series to people. And even in retrospect, I didn't like it too much despite the irony it gives.

[Okashira]

Originally Posted by Lexxus

I agree with some guys here that this series should have had follow Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai of first having an episode 0. I bet there won't be any confusion to the guys who didn't even read the original source.

But Haganai's episode 0 is actually taken from the source material, so it's nicely structured "by default". This actual first episode of Amnesia did tried to dub as an episode 0 since pretty much all of the rules about Yuuko where implicit, along with the fact that there is a club with paranormal activities and every character was present; but it could have certainly being a lot clearer (such as, the narration giving small profiles for each character with details and such).

[kitten320]

Don't get whole problem here. Kirie can clearly see Yuuko, all her comments were aimed at her and Yuuko's actions!

Yuuko might not know that she sees her.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by kitten320

Don't get whole problem here. Kirie can clearly see Yuuko, all her comments were aimed at her and Yuuko's actions!

Yuuko might not know that she sees her.

No no, the only oblivious one here is Momoe. The other three are all aware of what each of them can and can't see.