2009-10-05, 06:24 | Link #3262 |
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Ah yes, I just read that one too. Man, Ayumu and her brother are terrible at giving advice, makes you wonder how either of them could ever be in a relationship with beliefs like that. What I really can't believe is that Wataru took her advice seriously when he is usually much smarter than that and knows about how much experience she has with love.
Just to put my 2 cents in...Just because we haven't seen Hayate think about Athena before the EotW arc doesn't mean he hasn't dreamed about her before then. It also doesn't mean that he was trying to forget her or that he blocked it out or anything really. It's like on Naruto after the time skip...Naruto and Sakura are pretty normal and can laugh and have a good time, but if you mention Sasuke around them...well it isn't good. So maybe Hayate just had lingering feelings and regrets until somebody actually asked about Athena (since nobody else knew about her for those 10 years to bring it up before) and with nothing to distract him at the time it all comes rushing back to him for us to finally see. As for his feelings for Ayumu and the others, I definitely think that we can't say he ever 'loved' anyone as he seems to find that word important. It's not saying he never had a crush (as he certainly had one on Maria and probably a small one on Hinagiku) but love is in another category all together. Every single girl that he has met since the story started can be considered important to him (hell he'd go out of his way to save Risa, Miki, and even complete strangers, I bet Yukiji may even be somewhat important to him as his teacher) but that doesn't mean he has to have romantic feelings towards them. I'd say Nagi is a subversion of the First Girl Wins rule, Ayumu is the Unlucky Childhood Friend (as the only other way to go is the Victorious Childhood Friend or a childhood friend that isn't in love with the hero) and the others fill various roles from friends and advisers, to possible love interests, to comedy relief, etc. The quirky and varied cast of HnG is part of what makes it awesome, that and the fact that Wataru is basically the only other guy around for any of them to like. |
2009-10-05, 07:07 | Link #3263 |
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While I see words such as "admiration", "like" and "love" thrown around, sometimes I can see it is used to interchange one another, which shouldn't be done at all, as Teleutao rightly pointed out. Here's a breakdown on what I think Hayate's feelings are on the main heroines:
Nagi - Like Maria - Like Hinagiku - Admire (only because he thinks she hates him); if not, bordering like. Izumi - None specific Ayumu - Like Athena - Love As you can see, Athena is the one that he loves at the moment. Whilst he may like the other heroines, it is quite tainted with his good-natured personality and his loyalty still for him to progress forwards with them. I'm not saying he will need to stop being good-natured and loyal, but it is holding him back until he can find a comprimise between his romantic feelings and those aforementioned aspects. Like and Love are two very different things; although similar they have totally different depths of its meaning. Many things can be interpreted from which one you use, so be careful. |
2009-10-05, 07:27 | Link #3264 |
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A breakdown of my impression of Hayate's relationship with the girls.
Nagi- Similar to a sibling relationship (Hayate's perspective). Maria- Attraction/crush. Hinagiku- Attraction/admiration. Ayumu- Attraction. Izumi- Unknown. Athena- Love. Hayate never openly stated that he liked someone apart from Athena's case (if my memory serves me right). His actions and words implies he feels attracted to most of the girls (Maria, Hinagiku & Ayumu), but its still attraction, so it can't really be determined if he likes them romantically. In Nagi's case, I remember that Hayate himself once stated that he's like an older brother constantly worrying about his younger sister (not sure if it's in manga or anime). |
2009-10-05, 07:37 | Link #3265 |
Are you a lolicon? :3
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Oooohhh, me me me!!
Opace version: Nagi - Like - Kay Maria - Like - Kay Hinagiku - Admire (only because he thinks she hates him); if not, bordering like. - Kay Izumi - None specific - Why? ;_; Ayumu - Like - Kay Athena - Love - He sort of contradicted himself when telling Hina. First he said that he loves her, and then he said that he likes her, or that he doesn't know. Which is it Hayata-kun!? Koroshiya_Kame_13 version: Nagi- Similar to a sibling relationship (Hayate's perspective). - Kay + Opace Maria- Attraction/crush. - Crush on her at start, now... he just sees her as a very pretty girl. Hinagiku- Attraction/admiration. - Dunno if he's in the whole flat chested thing. Ayumu- Attraction. - Perhaps? Izumi- Unknown. - Why? ;_; Athena- Love. - Same as I said above. I may correct this later, cuz I'm sort of rushing things. Well, gotta run now~ |
2009-10-05, 08:02 | Link #3267 |
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What I meant for attraction in Hinagiku's part is mainly her personailty. Hayate did state that he liked mature ladies, and Hinagiku fitted in this category, since she's similar to Maria.
Hayate appears to be attracted to Ayumu probably cause she's the only "Normal" girl around him. Everything about her is normal and when Nagi asked Hayate what type of girl he preferred, he answered normal. Not much is shown on Hayate's part on his relationship with Izumi. Sure they kissed once, but that was way back and we all know Hayate gets flustered very easily. Most of the time they are just like normal friends, and even when they do have an intidimate moment together, Hayate just gets flustered, which he does with basically all the girls if he's placed under the same condition. Izumi might have realized she likes Hayate though. |
2009-10-05, 08:40 | Link #3268 | |||
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choose which one you like: 1.Mikado 2.Kotetsu 3.Tama 4.Machina 5.Gilbert 6.no.8 7.Priest Quote:
My version: Nagi - Little helper (for paying debt and save his intestines) Maria - Senior like (Obaa-san?? ) Hinagiku - Admire (only because he thinks she hates him); if not, she will flat rejected Izumi - who? seriously....is this a joke? Ayumu - Friend - Love? not a chance Athena - Love - Definitely, can you imagine some under aged boy work so hard till can buy a ring for a girl if he didn't love her? if you can I will admire your way of thinking about this world, Truly I am |
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2009-10-05, 09:38 | Link #3269 | |||
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About his past with Athena, let it be in the next discussion. Quote:
He may remember something about her but it is unarguable that he did not fully remember her because he needed the "We will be together forever" to dream about his past events with her. Quote:
I agree that he may go out with Ayumu if she asked him and if the situations were different. Hell, I also believed he will go out with Maria or even Hina had they confessed before the occurrence of his dream about Athena. Yes, he may interested in them, he may liked them more than some other girls, and he may want them to be his girlfriend, but its ridiculous to think he had any feelings known as "love" toward them. Last edited by zodanhko; 2009-10-05 at 10:10. |
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2009-10-05, 10:11 | Link #3270 |
Your fagottry, I hate it!
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Putting feelings aside. I wonder about the confession process.
Nagi - Tsundere = Over 9000 years Hina - Tsundere = Over 9000 dates Ayumu - Straightforward = Success on telling feelings, but failed nonetheless Maria - Confused Athena - Hmmm, over 9000 kisses before Hayate gets it? Nah just messin with it. Hayate's pretty much as dense as a rock.
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2009-10-05, 10:32 | Link #3271 | |
NYAAAAHAAANNNNN~
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2009-10-05, 13:41 | Link #3274 | |
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2009-10-05, 13:51 | Link #3275 | |
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beside your link already spreading be 4, but thanks anyway WELCOME TO ANIMESUKI FORUM the place where we can make friends as much as we want |
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2009-10-05, 15:23 | Link #3276 | |
Are you a lolicon? :3
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I choose all of the female cast to die. All of the young guys can then dress as girls and become traps. They each get a date, and then comes the bed scene. Guy being dated: .... ....... WAT? ... ... I'M CONFUS- WAIT, WHAT WHY ARE YOU GOING BEHiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Lol What type of rock? Anyway, the new chapter looks cool. Machi with a fucking tail... oh god.. he's starting to outrank the girls already. Where did Athena go btw? To me it looks like she was startled by him waking up and hid somewhere in a hurry. Lol, under the bed! Or did some time pass between Athena's last scene with him & him waking up? Koroshiya_Kame_13, in your translation you mentioned that she left. Can you check the raw now that it's out, and confirm if she really left, or if there's a chance that she's nervous, or shy, and is hiding? |
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2009-10-05, 18:48 | Link #3280 |
Rawrrr!
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I was already seriously considering Machina being a beast/demon rather than a machine, as his very first scene was quite typical of such a character: having trouble learning how to eat with chopsticks.
But now with the extremely childish behavior, and even the foxy attributes... I cannot help but think of a magically morphed and enhanced Tama. Given how Tama and even Shiranui are depicted, Machina being an cub on which Athena would have cast a spell wouldn't be far-fetched.
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