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Talia gave permission and the only other person who has a right to detain or question Athrun would be Dullindal. And since Dullindal did nothing, it makes sense why Athrun wasn't detained or questioned. |
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As for shinn doing what he did.. he has balls to go back and depending on the military justice system he may be executed or sentenced to imprisonment for a very long time. Which deserting or defecting would be a better preference than his likely sentence with zaft. My reply to mars is a reply to your question where could he desert too.. How shinn gets there and his avoidance measures he uses is up to him.. Quote:
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But the moment he stoled the gouf legally he may be shot down for stolen of equipment and deserting his post and potentially depending his reason on the guards to retreive him if its related to kira.. may considered his actions likelihood of sign of defection. And given those Armed soldiers were looking for athrun its is highly likely that Dullindal was the man who issued those orders to retrieve him. (which in imho is to detain him for questioning in regards to his involvement with kira) Quote:
Yes i was laughing at the fact this is a teenage soap opera. If this was world war 2 an officer would never authorize an order of this caliber for personal purposes. Realistically athrun would of been lined up and shot. While with shinns case was more realistic what would of happen but of course your not a militant so i wouldn't expect you to understand the black humor as i did. As with the hard evidence from luna.. if a militant is exposed in personal relationship with the enemy, interacting he would more than likely be detained for questioning in bounds to determine if his loyalty has been compromised which this is a standard procedure that SEED with its teenage soap opera style tends to neglect. OR it was exactly y those armed soldiers were there to pick him up before he played his desertion card but we never know the exact reasons of athrun retrieval. Also like to add its not always the case you get detained for questioning straight away,(which im asuming this is what your expecting) some cases may take months after unusal incident takes place.. reason for taking longer than expected may have various reasons. Which in this case supports my speculation at a later date that Dullindal may have ordered for athruns retrieval for questioning before he defected. But as you can see this is speculation just like the so called Dullindal ordered the lacus assassination which till this day has no strong evidence but only speculation. But in context with the story even tho its full of BS taken out of proportions i still like to make comments in regards how CE logic fails. Which sir dearka is correct that we both are looking at this show at 2 different angles. Last edited by winter45; 2010-05-01 at 06:42. |
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If this is real life, teenagers wouldn't get to operate the military's best weapons. And all those kids going all the way back to MSG would've been escorted out of the ship long before their respective series end. Oh, and I guess Shinn would've been shot too when he returned. Quote:
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Deserting in general is not a good practice.. Best not to get caught in the process. Hmm guess never occurred to you deserters have been recorded to desert in foreign lands in enemy territory with different language spoken away from home etc.... and given in CE universe mars is a habitable planet so it is plausible destination to hide. so why the silly remark? Quote:
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That is your opinion but my opinion happens to be different to yours.. lucky me |
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Really, winter45, I can't believe you're even suggesting this. Quote:
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1 I have nothing to do with shinn getting caught or not... y are you suggesting that i have the power to do so?
2 Its CE bud.. anything can happen just need to put a weak plot, a crappy story writer and insert music theme... Walla!!! $hit happens... 3 Correction my good friend.... loling at CE military logic pls get it right next time. in regards to shinn should go to mars... read my point 2 |
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And don't tell me you disagree now because just earlier you called me on being obvious on this point. |
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And at least, going to PLANTs is obviously more plausible than Shinn alone going to Mars. So the former is certainly a better deal than the latter. |
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So why would i lol at the concept of teenagers or kids fighting in wars when history has shown this does happen? Did you also know some nations around the world have conscription at the age of 15? Why would i lol at real military logic when it does occur in rl? ill let you in a true story... i even shot at a 14 year old boy who wore a uniform when i was deployed overseas.. (obviously i didnt know till he surrendered) So if your gonna reply, better find something else to attack me with, arguing me on my strong point in military field specifically the army is not going to go well with you.. Have a nice day Actually even better... this isnt getting any healthier.. so feel free to reply if you wish, but im stopping at this point. Last edited by winter45; 2010-05-01 at 09:01. |
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You make it sound as if it's a solid fact that Durandal had already sent to men to take Athrun into custody before he got the report from Rey and while we don't know when the order was given we do know that the men to take Athrun into custody until arrived after Meer had eavesdropped on Rey and Durandal meeting and had gotten there to warn him. Personaly I think the meeting with Kira was probably the straw that broke the camels back.
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Because at then end of episode 35 we get our first look at the Legend and Destiny when Durandal meets with Shinn and Athrun and tells them the new machines are theirs. Episode 36 we get at little bit more of Durandal, Shinn, and Athrun talking, followed by Durandal and Rey's meeting and then the attempted arrest of Athrun. |
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There are two cases to consider here: 1. Dullindal knew about the meeting before phase 36. If this is so, then he had chosen not to act against Athrun for whatever reason. 2. Dullindal found out at phase 36 and then ordered for Athrun's arrest (which may or may not be related to the meeting). Whichever case you choose, it still gives a reason for why Athrun was not detained before phase 36. |
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