(L) Revolutionary Girl Utena

[NoSanninWa]

Originally Posted by sugarducky

Does that happen in the TV series? I hope not.

I would suggest that you not expect anthing from the movie to happen in the TV series. The movie and the TV series do not tell the same story. If you think of them as the same, you are going to get VERY confused.

[brand]

I don't know where to put this so here it goes.

I'm looking for some Utena trailers (tv/movie) to put in a project for school. I have the three from the U.S. tv site but I know there are more I used to have them on my computer before my hard drive got wiped. But for the life of me I can't find any on line any more. Does anyone know were I can find some. Especially the movie teaser trailer which was a favorite of mine. Any help would be highly appreicated.

Thanks

[Korb]

Originally Posted by sugarducky

I liked the movie too, untill

Spoiler:

Utena turned into a car.

That just seemed way too ridiculous to me.
Does that happen in the TV series? I hope not.

The relationship between the TV series and the movie is like that of Escaflowne or Air. It's just a retelling of the whole thing, but in a different style and with lots of little differences everywhere. Of course, when you have to compress 39 23-minute episodes into a 2 hour movie, you're going to have to change things.

Personally I think the relationship between the Utena TV and movie is

Spoiler for TV ending:

that the movie is like a sequel to the TV series, since at the end of the series Anthy says she's going out into the world to search for Utena. You can take that, and then apply it to the movie where Anthy seems to be waiting for Utena at the school, only Utena knows nothing of what happened perviously or what's going on. It's sort of like a huge world reset, only Anthy really knows what's going on.

I really should rewatch Utena again. It's been way too long.

[Xellos-_^]

Utena, one of my absolute favorite ever. There has never been aynthing like Utena and never will either. it stands not only as a genre all it is own but in the test of time as well. Watching utena is like watching sureal art in motion.

[guest]

One thing just occurred to me. I had a chance to watch the fansub version before the official release. There are some differences in translation. One might say that it is minor but I think a lot of them actually change the meaning of the series or affect how audience would see.

Example:
fansub
Utena: (when replying to Akio's question) I want to become a prince.
Official
Utena: I want to meet him (the prince).

Utena is a very complex series. You have to read a lot into it, I believe. Are they trying to make Utena normal or is this just a mistake?

Spoiler:

Utena has always wanted to become a prince for a reason she did not realize. She always thought because she wanted to meet the prince. The real reason was reveal in the end. She wanted to become a prince who can save Anthy. I think these two sentences make a lot of difference in term of how Utena feels.

[SmartChick]

Originally Posted by guest

One thing just occurred to me. I had a chance to watch the fansub version before the official release. There are some differences in translation. One might say that it is minor but I think a lot of them actually change the meaning of the series or affect how audience would see.

Example:
fansub
Utena: (when replying to Akio's question) I want to become a prince.
Official
Utena: I want to meet him (the prince).

Utena is a very complex series. You have to read a lot into it, I believe. Are they trying to make Utena normal or is this just a mistake?

Spoiler:

Utena has always wanted to become a prince for a reason she did not realize. She always thought because she wanted to meet the prince. The real reason was reveal in the end. She wanted to become a prince who can save Anthy. I think these two sentences make a lot of difference in term of how Utena feels.

Where in the series did you see that translation mix? I do remember however in the series Utena does say many times that she does want to become a prince especially on those recollections she has in the beginning of some episodes. Off topic:yay I'm happy other people than NoSanninWa and I are posting in this thread.

[Kittie Rose]

Were there ever any plans for a sequel series/movie? It's a bit of a cult classic so I'm wondering if it'll be revisited in the future.

[LionsMane]

Originally Posted by Kittie Rose

Were there ever any plans for a sequel series/movie? It's a bit of a cult classic so I'm wondering if it'll be revisited in the future.

I think the only real plans to continue the Utena series was indeed the movie.

I don't think it'lll be revisited anymore in the future to be honest. It's been kind of a long time since it ended and it did end nicely.

Utena really is a brillant series in my opinion. I should go back and rewatch it when I have some spare time next.

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by Kittie Rose

Were there ever any plans for a sequel series/movie? It's a bit of a cult classic so I'm wondering if it'll be revisited in the future.

Originally Posted by LionsMane

I think the only real plans to continue the Utena series was indeed the movie.

I don't think it'lll be revisited anymore in the future to be honest. It's been kind of a long time since it ended and it did end nicely.

Utena really is a brillant series in my opinion. I should go back and rewatch it when I have some spare time next.

There was also a Live Action Utena Musical

I saw the first 30sec, it was

[Kittie Rose]

Originally Posted by LionsMane

I think the only real plans to continue the Utena series was indeed the movie.

I don't think it'lll be revisited anymore in the future to be honest. It's been kind of a long time since it ended and it did end nicely.

Utena really is a brillant series in my opinion. I should go back and rewatch it when I have some spare time next.

Spoiler for Utena ending:

I don't think it did. There were quite a few plot points left unresolved. Like what happened to Utena, was the main one. And what exactly Anthy meant had happened. I don't feel that Juri and Shiori were ever fully explored either, mainly because there was only really 2 episodes focusing on it. Most of the character stuff with the other duelists was left unresolved too, Miki and his sister/parents/relationship with Anthy, Nanami and Touga, and as I said Juri and Shiori. Not to mention Saoinji and Wakaba. I know that's how it often is in real life, but generally at least SOMETHING gets resolved, which I don't feel happened with Utena. The only thing that was really resolved was Akio's dominance over Anthy. Plus, it's a "Post Modern Fairytale" so I'd excuse it to resolve as many plot points as possible. The manga resolved things better but the story wasn't as interesting, IMO. I think like a lot of anime, the ending seemed a little forced.

A Utena sequel would be really interesting since it wouldn't be limited to the more systematic nature of the original series. It finally show us the world that Akio so badly wanted to revolutionise, too. It'd be interesting to see Anthy go around doing witchy stuff on her quest for Utena. I'm thinking it could be kind of like the Read or Die TV towards the OVA. It'd be a fantastic series.

[Jubalint]

I'm looking to buy a copy of the Utena DVD's but I can't seem to find ANYWHERE that has all three box sets in stock. All I can find is used copies and I'm deathly afraid of ending up with bootlegs.

Does anyone know of somewhere they are new in stock or anywhere that has reliable used copies? I really really want to get the DVD's of this series.

EDIT: Or if anyone has the complete collection (or at least one of the three box sets) and is interested in selling I'm interested in buying .

[Tofusensei]

If someone can verify if the license is indeed expired, please let me know.

-Tofu

[Wavedash]

I don't believe the license is expired. The boxsets have merely gone out of print.

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by Jubalint

I'm looking to buy a copy of the Utena DVD's but I can't seem to find ANYWHERE that has all three box sets in stock. All I can find is used copies and I'm deathly afraid of ending up with bootlegs.

Does anyone know of somewhere they are new in stock or anywhere that has reliable used copies? I really really want to get the DVD's of this series.

EDIT: Or if anyone has the complete collection (or at least one of the three box sets) and is interested in selling I'm interested in buying .

Have you try amazon?

PS. you will get my Utena set over my dead body.

[guest]

The company went bankrupt a while ago so I don't think you will see new DVD anymore. I didn't think it would be sold out so fast. A masterpiece being treated like this. What a pity. Just grab used copies while you can. Soon there won't be anything left. A show like this is not going to get licensed by some other company, to be honest.

P.S. I don't know about license status, though. I kind wish it would be expired and some fansub group can do a good sub on it. I really don't like the offcial version anyway.

[Wavedash]

Originally Posted by guest

The company went bankrupt a while ago so I don't think you will see new DVD anymore. I didn't think it would be sold out so fast. A masterpiece being treated like this. What a pity. Just grab used copies while you can. Soon there won't be anything left. A show like this is not going to get licensed by some other company, to be honest.

That's obviously a lie, since a quick google search will show that it's still around.

[guest]

Originally Posted by Wavedash

That's obviously a lie, since a quick google search will show that it's still around.

CPM Lays off Staff, Prepares for Bankruptcy

posted on 2006-05-26 17:00 EDT

Central Park Media laid off the majority of its staff today, maintaining only a small number to deal with "loose ends." We have been informed that "issues with creditors" arose last week, and the company is expected to file for bankruptcy next week. No further details about the creditor issues or bankruptcy filing are available.

I guess they decided not to file for bankruptcy after all. I don't know.

[Tofusensei]

Originally Posted by guest

P.S. I don't know about license status, though. I kind wish it would be expired and some fansub group can do a good sub on it. I really don't like the offcial version anyway.

We're planning on doing just that, actually. We already subbed 27-39 back when it was unlicensed.

-Tofu

[MaachaQ]

Originally Posted by Tofusensei

We're planning on doing just that, actually. We already subbed 27-39 back when it was unlicensed.

-Tofu

Like another old CPM series, Slayers, I expect one of the other US companies to pick up this liscense and redistribute it. I wouldn't want to get anyone in trouble by distributing fansubs at this point while the state of the US liscense is in limbo.

I personally fansubbed the Utena Movie, though I doubt many people saw my version. We were a very small fansub group, we only ever completed a few projects and never made an official digital release. MQP Fansubs I believe is the name we used, and I'm sure I could dig up my Substation Alpha script if I really wanted to ^^;

[Neki Ecko]

I wish that they can make a new verson of Utena, by using the Movie. They can redo the whole story but using the movie graphic on it, besides Utena with short hair is hawt. No doubt about that.