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Old 2016-01-12, 14:05   Link #61
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This felt like a weird mix of Solty Rei and Xenosaga. I mean, we have a futuristic setting, a cute android girl who met with a tough guy by accident, a mysterious new dimension which changed the entire world, and a genius scientist who created an android to replace —or maybe save— his daughter. Not that I mind, I absolutely loved Xenosaga and I enjoyed Solty Rei, so I actually kinda liked the first episode.

I didn't like everything though. The exposition was a bit forced here and there, and it was particularly funny when the show switched from an info dump by the radio to an info dump by the narrator. Another thing I didn't like is that Yurizaki basically almost crushed his own plan. He wanted Mira to continue a plan he was willing to die for, but didn't bother to check if she's gonna get caught up in that gigantic explosion? Poor girl was incapacitated immediately when Yurizaki began the process so it's not like she could have run away or hide.

But Mira is a bit like Momo in Solty's body and I really like the mood of the show, so I can easily tolerate this much for now.
He couldn't have known she was nearby and he didn't have any way of finding out.
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Old 2016-01-12, 16:35   Link #62
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He couldn't have known she was nearby and he didn't have any way of finding out.
And that's my problem. Since Yurizaki didn't know where Mira is, and seemingly had no means to find her location, it just didn't seem like a smart idea to blow up half of the district when she could have been in the vicinity. It seemed weird that he took such an enormous risk when this plan seemed so important to him and Mira is the only one who can finish it. I should have made my point more clear in my previous post, sorry about that.

I can imagine several reasons why he would use such a desperate move, it might even be important why it was necessary to destroy... whatever he destroyed, but, you know, that scene could have been written in a way that shows that he's actually worried about Mira. Or in a way that implies that he knows her position somehow.
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Old 2016-01-12, 17:39   Link #63
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Honestly the description on this anime had me a little "Eh?" then a little "Uhh" then a bit like "Hmm" but in the end I still gave it a go and i'm glad I did It's certainly an interesting premise
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Old 2016-01-12, 18:07   Link #64
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Such a cold-hearted and badass MC!
I love how he was totally okay with the villian shooting the girl and didn't even attempt to reach for his throwing stuff to prevent that from happening, same with how coldy he treated the "robot/puppet". He really earned that jaw-crushing slap, bet he gonna get more of those during the whole series. XD

A world system with unlimited and thus cheap as hell enery which even prodives for cyborg limbs and humanoid robots? Holy crap, this world should be Utopia where all the money put into the energy business could be used to help the poor and sick, advance more technology and medicine and work together for a better world!
So why the hell does it look like this world is still full of poverty, crime and corruptness??? Gawd, humans...

Mira's really cute and really strong, can't wait to see her doing as a collector. <3

I think Yurizaki thought that maybe Mira would run away one he activates this anti-coil thingie? Or perhaps, what I think is the case, he didn't truly cared anymore even if she died as he "died" two years ago with the murder of his family due his research and only lived through his anger and thirst for revenge to destroy what he had created. Given that as Mira is also a product kept alive due the coil he might not have regarded her as highly as she did towards him. Well, it might be that case at least. We need some flashbacks and more Mira story telling time to seewhy he was so desperate to blow himself up into a black hole thingie.
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Old 2016-01-12, 19:31   Link #65
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A world system with unlimited and thus cheap as hell enery which even prodives for cyborg limbs and humanoid robots? Holy crap, this world should be Utopia where all the money put into the energy business could be used to help the poor and sick, advance more technology and medicine and work together for a better world!
So why the hell does it look like this world is still full of poverty, crime and corruptness??? Gawd, humans...
I actually like that aspect of the show's world. Just having a source of unlimited energy (which seems to be monopolized/regulated by one corp) doesn't magically solve every other problem. Food still needs to be grown, living spaces still need to be constructed, people still need to find jobs. In fact, in the short-term, workers are probably displaced as automatons are cheaper and more convenient to use in certain industries.
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Old 2016-01-12, 20:25   Link #66
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I think Yurizaki thought that maybe Mira would run away one he activates this anti-coil thingie? Or perhaps, what I think is the case, he didn't truly cared anymore even if she died as he "died" two years ago with the murder of his family due his research and only lived through his anger and thirst for revenge to destroy what he had created. Given that as Mira is also a product kept alive due the coil he might not have regarded her as highly as she did towards him. Well, it might be that case at least. We need some flashbacks and more Mira story telling time to see why he was so desperate to blow himself up into a black hole thingie.
Having watched it a couple of times more, I think that the professor cared very much about Mira and that she has the brain or at least the brain patterns of his daughter that was murdered. The way the tech at the end described Mira's "brain" was pretty much how you would describe that of a human, with millions of connections that was put together in an organic and unique way that could never truly be reproduced.

He says when he dies that he's leaving everything up to Mira now, and the NT people drove him to make this choice. Also, Mira has a self-repair system, so it's very possible that he hoped that either she would fix herself, or someone who needed money would fix her. I think whatever plan he had, he still means to have carried out. This is just the beginning, and I think Mira knows what the plan is and that's why she wants to suddenly become a Collector in order to fulfill his wishes.

I don't think we'll really get an idea as to what his plan was until we see what his research was that had his own company try to steal it and kill his family in the process.
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Old 2016-01-12, 23:02   Link #67
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And that's my problem. Since Yurizaki didn't know where Mira is, and seemingly had no means to find her location, it just didn't seem like a smart idea to blow up half of the district when she could have been in the vicinity. It seemed weird that he took such an enormous risk when this plan seemed so important to him and Mira is the only one who can finish it. I should have made my point more clear in my previous post, sorry about that.

I can imagine several reasons why he would use such a desperate move, it might even be important why it was necessary to destroy... whatever he destroyed, but, you know, that scene could have been written in a way that shows that he's actually worried about Mira. Or in a way that implies that he knows her position somehow.
It doesn't seem like he had much of a choice at the time. The authorities were about to take him in and if that happened he could have pretty kissed his goal goodbye.

Mira can also self repair so maybe he was hoping the she could take care of herself if she got caught in the blast.
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Old 2016-01-12, 23:39   Link #68
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Another thing I didn't like is that Yurizaki basically almost crushed his own plan. He wanted Mira to continue a plan he was willing to die for, but didn't bother to check if she's gonna get caught up in that gigantic explosion? Poor girl was incapacitated immediately when Yurizaki began the process so it's not like she could have run away or hide.
The only thing that was going to happen to her was that her coil would burn out, and he knew that. She's a high-grade android, so high-grade that disassembling her would actually lessen her worth, so someone was bound to find her and reactivate her, which is exactly what happened. Even if whoever found her was...less than honorable, she's already shown that she has a robust modesty subroutine, and she can clearly take care of herself. She was going to be fine.
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Old 2016-01-13, 09:20   Link #69
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The only thing that was going to happen to her was that her coil would burn out, and he knew that.
When I mentioned that she could have been easily caught up in the explosion, I meant the building obliterating part of it.

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Also, Mira has a self-repair system, so it's very possible that he hoped that either she would fix herself, or someone who needed money would fix her.
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Mira can also self repair so maybe he was hoping the she could take care of herself if she got caught in the blast.
Oh, these are pretty good points actually. I've completely forgotten about her self-repair system. It uses nanomachines, so those can probably repair her even from extremely severe injuries as long as her brain isn't completely destroyed.
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Old 2016-01-13, 10:19   Link #70
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I sort of understand the comparisons to Solty Rei and DtB with the older weathered male partnered with the more naive girl. I'm starting to think I have a thing for android girls...

And yes, for me best OP since Space Dandy.
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Old 2016-01-13, 17:21   Link #71
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Old 2016-01-13, 18:52   Link #72
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I dropped the manga cause I hated Repo ppls (they ruin the lives of poor people)

But I'll watch a few of the anime just to see how this series is like.
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Old 2016-01-14, 09:35   Link #73
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Visual for first Bluray Box. We got Cute robowaifu wearing cute hat. I assume this costume will be out in the second episode.

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We also got the first production diary courtesy of Funimation. It give the insight of the mangaka on the anime adaptation.

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Just watched the first episode. The art direction of it is great in general. I especially like how they handle the lighting.

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As a fan of the manga I thought the first episode looked pretty good, though something felt a bit off as I was watching it. Having a quick look back it seems they've covered quite a lot of material in just one episode while also cutting/changing quite a bit of detail. Nothing that affects the plot so far but a lot of small details that flesh out the world and characters haven't been included already. I'll probably wait another episode or two but I'm really worried this is going to end up really rushed, or turns into a bit of a mess as excluded detail adds up.
Since they have to reach certain scene, that cannot be helped. It also nice that the premiere reduced the amount of variable shown so it won't be so busy. I am pretty sure that this will be addressed in the subsequent episodes.

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Regarding Mira, I am more baffled at the fact that the professor left her out cold in the open when he activate the green coil. She get lucky that she is "rescued" by the Japanese Gasoline Wolverine, but if NT secured her when she is shutted down, we might get entirely different story.
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Old 2016-01-15, 14:24   Link #74
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Regarding Mira, I am more baffled at the fact that the professor left her out cold in the open when he activate the green coil. She get lucky that she is "rescued" by the Japanese Gasoline Wolverine, but if NT secured her when she is shutted down, we might get entirely different story.
The professor probably send her out to get those coils for something, no one knows.

But he only activated the green coil cause those other dudes found him, he had no other choice left since no way in hell is he gonna go with them after they murdered his family and stole his research...
(I know I would resist if someone murdered my family)

Which I have no idea why they would even misunderstood that in the first place and go murder the inventor... so stupid...
(What's even stupider is they decide to cover up the incident and lets public think the Gramps and his Family gone to some unknown place... yea... them governments doing what they do best, leading the public to think what they want)

As for "rescue"... no where in hell was that his intention... he wanted to sell her for cash so he can get some Gas. (he didn't give a shit about what happens to her, remember, he hates coils, robots and futuristic devices (dude probably don't even have a cellphone))

Meaning, if she had stayed in shut down mode, he probably would have sold her to some Black Market by now... and the other guys would still track down and buy her in the end..
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Old 2016-01-15, 21:56   Link #75
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The professor probably send her out to get those coils for something, no one knows.

But he only activated the green coil cause those other dudes found him, he had no other choice left since no way in hell is he gonna go with them after they murdered his family and stole his research...
(I know I would resist if someone murdered my family)

Which I have no idea why they would even misunderstood that in the first place and go murder the inventor... so stupid...
From the way he talked, the blonde dude didn't want to kill him but arrest him instead. The professor just decided to kill himself before he got captured.

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(What's even stupider is they decide to cover up the incident and lets public think the Gramps and his Family gone to some unknown place... yea... them governments doing what they do best, leading the public to think what they want)
Agree with you here.

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As for "rescue"... no where in hell was that his intention...
Hence the quotation mark.

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he wanted to sell her for cash so he can get some Gas. (he didn't give a shit about what happens to her, remember, he hates coils, robots and futuristic devices (dude probably don't even have a cellphone))
He has cellphone. He need it if he wanted to get any job

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Meaning, if she had stayed in shut down mode, he probably would have sold her to some Black Market by now... and the other guys would still track down and buy her in the end..
Now that I think about it again, Mira is strong enough to fend herself if she ever get turned on by some random dude in black market and get away and go into hiding.

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Bottom line is that the professor did a gamble and win big time. She got an experienced collector as a buddy in her quest of retrieving illegal coil for whatever reason it is.
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Old 2016-01-17, 09:28   Link #76
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Episode 2:

Another solid episode. Kyouma kicking some ass with his usual fighting style while dealing with illegal activity in their city. We also find out a little bit more about Mira as she is accepted into the team. I think her neat outfit is fine and I find it funny at how she tries to dismiss the fact that she is a robot.

OP song is still my favorite this season and the OST is neat too.

I hope the show continuously maintain this momentum. And Loser was also a cool character imo this episode.


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Old 2016-01-17, 09:54   Link #77
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I'm glad they toned down the fanservice, not even sure there was much, so I count that as a good sign. I like Mira's new outfit, suits her better than her earlier dress. Though I am worried about the pace of the adaptation- they sped through... 2, 3 manga chapters this episode? Or maybe I'm just so used to slow stretched out adaptations, this one just seemed fast, though they did drop a lot of details- don't think the details were that important, but still.

Loser was cool, and plenty of action this time, as well as explanation for why Kyoma is just so badass. Fast pace aside, I am glad they animated that moment at the end- incidents like that certainly justify Kyouma's distaste for coils.

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New Tesla sure has a lot of enemies, though Kyoma seems more neutral (and bitter) than anything else. Doesn't help that they've stumbled onto a big conspiracy, so they just hope NT doesn't drop the hammer on them. Mira's very charming, with her innocence but she does figure out a way eventually.
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Old 2016-01-17, 10:18   Link #78
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So....is Loser a Winner now?

Loving Kyoma's personality. He's a guy that hates coils so he's treating Mira coldly like the badass he is I'm sure she'll eventually grow on him enough for him to care about her one way or another. The fact that by the end as the dimension collapse was happening, he didn't hesitate to leave that guy behind which is a breath of fresh air compared to most main characters who will ridiculously stay behind to save the villain or someone. I love it
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Old 2016-01-17, 10:55   Link #79
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Welp, that final scene was so grotesque i almost flipped. So that's the reason why illegal coils are well, illegal. Once they get destroyed and handled carelessly, they will force open a dimension that screws with your body. Aside from that though, this episode was absolutely entertaining. So much chase scenes, acrobatic feats, and just general asskicking.
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Old 2016-01-17, 11:10   Link #80
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Well, that was pretty great.
At first I was kind of disappointed in Loser, that he was simply some flamboyant showcasing inept thief that was in it just for the show rather than the actually being good at stealing. I couldn't understand why he had so many fans.

However, now that I know he has a bit of depth about him, and how he pretty much lost everything to New Tesla, I find myself liking him and his son a whole lot more. Also, we find out that he has been quite the success, but he just happened to be stealing something completely different.

Finding out about pieces of Kyouma's past through slightly clunky exposition was cool too. He did look like he came out of a 90s comic book when they showed him with his team those years ago. I wonder how Loser knows about all that. Was he on a similar team at one point?

And then there is the fact that Kyouma seemed to know the old professor's wife as he asked specifically about her, so that's interesting. Also, it looks like Mira was created before the daughter's death, so now I'm thinking that she's separate from the daughter after all.
It's interesting that Mira has proof of the murder and who did it, but the professor never came out with it. Was it just that Tesla was too strong or was there other reasons?

That dimensional collapse was ugly, and I can see now why coils can be so dangerous.

We now have two new things to deal with in that there's this new thing in numbered coils and there is also the fact that nobody seems to know where illegal coils come from, which I find rather odd. There has to be an origin point. Somebody must know.
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