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Old 2008-11-03, 22:46   Link #1
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William Gibson predicted 2d marriage in 1996 SF novel

Recently otaku created a petition demanding the right to marry 2d characters (http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/1...-2d-characters).

Whether you think it's laughable or a great idea, it's certainly an interesting proposal. That could lead to a whole discussion by itself.

The really funny part is, I just started reading the SF book "Idoru" by William Gibson...and one of it's major plot points is a Japanese man marrying a fictional, virtual reality idol-character, and the various controversies this raises. This book was written in...1996. They say that "life imitates art," but when life begins to imitate CYBERPUNK novels, we know we're in for interesting times. Four more years and Tokyo begins to be like in Ghost in the Shell? The female robots coming from Japan do seem to be getting more and more lifelike. I wonder what other SF novels and anime will be vindicated next?
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Old 2008-11-04, 00:02   Link #2
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I can follow the concept of marrying an A.I. ... a companion that you can actually interact with, play games with, watch entertainment with, etc etc. as the tech progresses. (visualizes the first A.I. that decides it wants a divorce ).

However, I'm more thinking medication for someone wanting to marry a drawing or a picture with not even a pretend sense of self.

Marriage is a "civil instrument of legal entanglement" as much of a "mutual declaration of love and commitment" (lets work on that mutual thing....)
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Old 2008-11-04, 00:12   Link #3
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ehh...
That's just stupid .. your never gonna get loved back No sex >_>
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Old 2008-11-04, 00:26   Link #4
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ah the amazing power of hydraulics, silicone, and electromotive forces can overcome many things
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Old 2008-11-04, 00:30   Link #5
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That's it... humanity is doomed.
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Old 2008-11-04, 00:33   Link #6
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Well the real thing is probably better and more fun
And plus it might weigh a whole lot you would only be able to do doggie Style
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Old 2008-11-04, 00:40   Link #7
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Actually, philosopher Scott Adams noted that humanity will be doomed seconds after the first holodeck is successfully powered up.
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Old 2008-11-04, 01:04   Link #8
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Man but this one is sloooow and painful. It should only affect affluent countries with very low birth rates.
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Old 2008-11-04, 01:58   Link #9
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That's it... humanity is doomed.
Well only the 1/3 who aren't starving, struggling just to have a home, provide their family with food or get an education or live in areas ravaged by poverty or war.
(You know, the other continents in the world, where humans live in countries that don't have the time, money or luxury to even begin to imagine things like this, let alone pour resources into researching and creating this kind of technology)

The more we have, the more we're not sastified, the more we're not sastified, the more we overlook the simple things in life and start going kinda crazy and finding alternatives such as this

Ah well, all i can say is:
Hurray to filtering out the men who want and can handle a real lady?
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Old 2008-11-04, 02:11   Link #10
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It certainly takes care of certain categories of men unable to "relate to women" who don't follow a script. I read one article (can't remember where) that a designer spoke of using AI and these robotics tools to rescue these sorts by quietly and subtly power-leveling their social skills.

Seriously, they should have never locked up the tigers....
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Old 2008-11-04, 02:33   Link #11
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I for one do not want this.

No longer would we be able to tell who was real or not.

Real people would cease to exist as people would choose their perfect partner.
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Old 2008-11-04, 03:03   Link #12
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I for one do not want this.

No longer would we be able to tell who was real or not.

Real people would cease to exist as people would choose their perfect partner.
Nah, again, money, money and oh, money?
We got something like 10% own 90% of the worlds wealth?
I doubt people would be able to afford such a luxury (and it is a luxury) cause you know... having sex and relationships with other humans tends to be free.
(Or a lot less cheaper)
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ah the amazing power of hydraulics, silicone, and electromotive forces can overcome many things

You mean like candy girls?
(This is just the wiki link, so SFW as well as Danny Choo's review
The other links however, view at your own risk.)

They got the everything covered except the electromotive forces and an actual AI system built within, but I'm merely waiting for the day when they add those
For now, it's just a lifesize "human" replica and tbh the first time i saw this with clothes on, i was fooled x.x

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Let's just say I wasn't shown danny's review when i was fooled...
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Old 2008-11-04, 03:09   Link #13
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OMG they look so fake i can't see myself marrying that motion-less thing *pukes*
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Old 2008-11-04, 03:12   Link #14
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Well only the 1/3 who aren't starving, struggling just to have a home, provide their family with food or get an education or live in areas ravaged by poverty or war.
(You know, the other continents in the world, where humans live in countries that don't have the time, money or luxury to even begin to imagine things like this, let alone pour resources into researching and creating this kind of technology)

The more we have, the more we're not sastified, the more we're not sastified, the more we overlook the simple things in life and start going kinda crazy and finding alternatives such as this

Ah well, all i can say is:
Hurray to filtering out the men who want and can handle a real lady?
Or maybe the one's who never found the one that they were destined to be with? I'm just going to say that I don't mind all of this as long as it doesn't interfere with one's personal affairs.
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Old 2008-11-04, 04:02   Link #15
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Man petitions to marry comic book character

It's people like this guy that make life in the outside world hard for anime fans:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/specials/...956300444.html

I see some delicious irony with this thread too:

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=40554
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Old 2008-11-04, 04:09   Link #16
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That was a interesting read.

Makes me glad knowing I've still got a long way to go before reaching the terminal obsession of no return.
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Old 2008-11-04, 04:21   Link #17
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I support this movement. It just means more real women for the rest of us.
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Old 2008-11-04, 05:29   Link #18
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Actually, philosopher Scott Adams noted that humanity will be doomed seconds after the first holodeck is successfully powered up.
I contend that humanity was doomed the moment the concept of a holodeck was developed and spread. Now that we have a concept of them in place, someone will eventually develop something that, while likely based on something completely different, would have the same practical use.
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Old 2008-11-04, 06:05   Link #19
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I have the Chobits scenario in my mind now. However, that is still some time away.
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Old 2008-11-04, 07:18   Link #20
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