2012-08-15, 09:39 | Link #221 |
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It was. It still is major crap compared to steam. The only reason it's on the PC is that games like Bioshock 2 and Fallout 3 wanted it on. Thankfull, the GFWL trend is dying, most games just switch to steam's platform, which is less quirky or buggy. MS pushes something people don't like, eventually it'll be irrelevant. Every popular software I know that tried to push stuff on people ended up losing lots of users. Ok, except Apple, Apple's brainwashing still works. Then again, Apple never had that many users to begin with.
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2012-08-15, 10:10 | Link #222 | |
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2012-08-15, 10:52 | Link #224 | |
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2012-08-15, 12:03 | Link #225 |
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^but that's just an excuse so they don't have to hire or train their IT staff( especially the programmers) or at least ask them to develop programs that are up to par., so why not blame the companies for their routines then?
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2012-08-15, 13:14 | Link #227 |
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I bet he never had to deal with people who say they can no longer use their computer because the location of an icon on the desktop was changed, either (true story). Trust me, people like that are common in much of the business world.
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2012-08-15, 13:55 | Link #228 | |
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The process for building near perfect complex system is extremely tedious and particularly volatile in software engineering where you almost always find some undocumented oddball case to deal with. If something hasn't failed before in a certain mystical fashion it's pretty hard to test or look for the failure. Needless to say time is money, so given how everything has a budget there's only a very limited time to do anything (especially in today's production-line spoiled sociaty where expectations are of fast delivery), therefore priorities have to be established; one thing is inevitably going to give way to another. In general programmers (excluding dedicated code-nannies) who've worked on anything of some reasonable scale before are pretty assiduous when coding as-is. Sometimes what's lacking is simply order to the process, the tools... or just the money (ie. time) to get them. No matter how strong, a limping horse can only go so far.
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2012-08-15, 15:00 | Link #229 | ||
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If that's the case, then the whole locking down Windows becomes a non-issue.
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2012-08-16, 14:04 | Link #231 | |
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There are major communications companies who are still using the XP operating system due to hardware costs if they switch to Windows 7; others were coaxed out of using the Vista because of OS issues.
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2012-08-16, 23:08 | Link #232 |
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I could bring up major oil companies that still use PDP-8 machines on critical infrastructure because they are intrinsically coupled to the system. Replacing them would cost a fortune... its better to keep a cadre of programmer engineers who can handle antiquities
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2012-08-17, 12:02 | Link #233 |
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Uh, has anyone mentioned about game compatibility with Win8? Leaves me wondering how much would work under this new environment, including some legacy programs (unless a virtual machine running XP would have to be used).
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2012-08-17, 12:18 | Link #234 |
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Most things work. Only thing that's not working so far in RC is L.A Noire I think. Didn't have a problem with anything else from what I can recall these past months. I'll wait for the RTM to come out in October to check again.
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2012-08-18, 10:24 | Link #237 |
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One thing I've noticed from videos is that this entire UI they have for windows 8 is not really designed for multi monitor setups, which is wierd as hell when you consider how many people these days use multi monitor setups; heck it's almost shoved in your face.
Windows 7 is abysmal at it too. No way to setup two desktops with out using a tiling trick, or how the jiggle-window-at-edge of screen is suppose to work when you're on the second monitor, various non-existent options for working with two monitors, to give just a few examples. And here comes windows 8 with even more annoying "only use first monitor", "we use edges... uh what's this thing called a second monitor?", "just go to the edge for menu... oh wait no too far, you're in the second monitor". Why are multi-monitor setups ignored so much? Speaking of multi-monitor support, how's linux and mac doing on this?
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2012-08-18, 10:47 | Link #238 |
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Don't bother with hot corners. Keyboard shortcuts. They are a lot faster than using a mouse. WinKey brings up StartScreen/Search, WinKey+C the Charms thing.
Linux, probably depends. I use openSUSE, I don't think its any worse or better than Windows. OS X, worse than Windows apparently. Mountain Lion apparently fixes things with full screen mode greying out other monitors. Multi-monitor setups are generally ignored since people generally don't use them. |
2012-08-18, 10:58 | Link #239 |
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Linux has good multi-monitor support since it is built on X. Some graphics adapters and their drivers do a better job than others, NVIDIA in particular. Improving support for multiple monitors is one of Canonical's priority development areas for Ubuntu, but here's a YouTube video from 2009 with Ubuntu+Compiz running on six displays.
If you walked into the offices of system administrators and application developers, you'd see a lot of multi-monitor setups.
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2012-08-18, 11:13 | Link #240 | |
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