(L) Aku No Hana (Flowers of Evil)

[Conan-san]

So yeah, the BR's have been delayed by a month.

Because they were going to sell SO MANY of them and all.

[Guitaraholic]

Haters gonna hate

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Guitaraholic

I think he was A) stunned by the fact she jumped him and B) is indeed a bit of a weakling. I thought that scene was great, especially thinking about how they did that Live.

Kasuga is just very very pathetic. I don't really feel bad for him or sympathize with him. I think Nakamura is just the thing he needs. Something to get him out of his "loser" phase (if it even is a phase). By the end of the last episode there's already a degree of change in him for standing up for her. Maybe he's a Sadist and doesn't know it yet.

I still think Nakamura is highly disturbed though.

Yeah, I agree with you on all of this.

Kasuga alternates back and forth between being too passive... and acting liking a complete mad man.

He comes across as someone who isn't comfortable in his own skin. Nakamura may indeed be exactly what he needs.

[Kirarakim]

Originally Posted by Guitaraholic

I'm with you there. Although I'm fine with the belief that they're high schoolers. I know they aren't in the manga, but does it ever explicitly state that they are middle schoolers in the anime?

The anime stated they were in middle school in the last episode.

[Solafighter]

She is gonna take something precious from him... Something precious... His virginity?

[NoemiChan]

That would be the most horribly made ecchi sex scene ever....

[videoman190]

Spoiler for ?!:

[Dop]

Whoa. Things got more intense.

Spoiler for ep 4:

New (ish) OP, from Nakamura's viewpoint this time.

Yes. Kasuga is a bit of a wuss. Then again he does have a picture of Charles Baudelaire in his room, and is the bookish type. I see him as being like the odd boy who doesn't like sport, as the Bonzos put it (although that one was into Mallarme, not Baudelaire).
Not that this is a bad thing. Necessarily. In a different society he might wear black and be a goth or something, and clearly he's not like his peers in many ways and considers himself more of an intellectual.
He also has this over-romanticised idealism about girls, as you can tell by the way he refers to Saeki.

So when Saeki admires the way he stood up for Nakamura, he's over the moon, and after while helping Saeki with a chore he offers to take her to his favourite bookshop.

Wow Kasuga, you really know how to show a girl a good time....!

Then Nakamura finds out. Oh that evil grin. You know this is not going to end well.

That toilet scene. Nakamura wants to see a deviant who'll burn down the town, and will break down the walls surrounding Kasuga to see it.

It's going to be a bumpy ride.

This continues to be for me the most gripping and memorable show of the season.

[Humble Loser]

Spoiler for Current episode:

This episode was painful to watch. Kasuga is so submissive, that even the word “submissive” loses its meaning in regards to him. We need a stronger term to concisely capture his essence. Then with one slap Nakamura smites Kasuga to the floor like he was struck with Thor’s mighty Mjolnir hammer. Much like the stripping scene in which I was afraid that Kasuga was about to actually get raped in the library, the scene is so sad. He was whimpering and/or crying on the ground too.

Then bringing the gym clothes and going into the women’s bathroom was awful on Kasuga’s part. Even he should know by now, the longer he keeps the clothes, the more he will be blackmailed, manipulated and degraded by Nakamura on the sole account of having the clothes. Enough is enough. The toilet scene screams of Nakamura’s edgy nature in which if she suddenly turned into a rapist and took Kasuga right then and there, it would not be shocking. Her energy is violent and in her deviance, whether she means to or not, has a DOM streak to it. Nakamura gets more and more unpredictable, unstable and in doing so, gives off greater would-be rapist vibes to me.

[videoman190]

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Spoiler for ep 4:

Gotta love the way Nakamura walks away with her arms swinging when she's found out about something interesting or is happy(knowing she's going to f*** over Kasuga later on).

I must say I thought he was on to something with the jealousy idea, but I forgot that this isn't some ecchi harem comedy here. I was greatly amused that Nakamura shot him down and laughed in his face as if to say "You're a sorry perverted piece of s***, and to even think that is f***ing stupid."

Originally Posted by Humble Loser

Then with one slap Nakamura smites Kasuga to the floor like he was struck with Thor’s mighty Mjolnir hammer.

HAHAHAAHHAHA, the way you said that made me ROFL !

Despite that...embarassing smackdown, I was rather impressed with Kasuga being able to ask Saeki on a date so quickly the very first moment he was given a 'chance', given his personality. That's something you just don't see too often from a boy his age in such a serious-tone story(in anime at least). He seemed resolved to get back on the straight-and-narrow, but it looks like Nakamura wont allow that to happen so easily.

Anyway, I can see Nakamura making him wear those clothes and following them so that she can probably tell Saeki what's underneath. Then Kasuga will be truly f****d in every sense of the word, and there'd be nothing he could do about it; with Nakamura taking advantage of his depression to make him into a real pervert.

[Jerseykid]

I wouldn't mind if Kasuga stabbed Nakamura to death 100 times and lived happily ever after with Saeki

[Guitaraholic]

Creepy ass bitch. I read in this look, "Gotcha, MF'er".

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Originally Posted by Humble Loser

Then bringing the gym clothes and going into the women’s bathroom was awful on Kasuga’s part. Even he should know by now, the longer he keeps the clothes, the more he will be blackmailed, manipulated and degraded by Nakamura on the sole account of having the clothes.

I keep thinking the same thing, but at the same time he has to be thinking, "what will she do if i DO get rid of them". She is so totally off her rocker she might show up to school and stab him to death. She's psycho... reminds me of an ex-gf... a little too much.

[cyth]

I think it's pretty clear Kasuga doesn't want to get rid of the clothes. Nakamura knows him perfectly.

[sa547]

Originally Posted by cyth

I think it's pretty clear Kasuga doesn't want to get rid of the clothes. Nakamura knows him perfectly.

He can't escape the Borg.

[cyth]

I just can't accept the notion that middle schoolers can be deviants inherently. Nakamura may have grown up in an unloving environment (I'm assuming), not so much the case with Kasuga. It seems like the one thing that may have tilted the pair to go down the path of deviants is the lifeless, colorless boredom their city offers. Sounds like a story one would write in seventies Japan. The characters are based on old-fashioned concepts that I don't think fit the current zeitgeist.

[calorie]

This was just too much, I feel sorry for Kasuga...that thing at the end of this episode was downright unbearable to watch. I don't think I can find any pleasure in this. Of course, this anime is all about the complete opposite of pleasure - some kind of grotesque, disgusting feeling of unease. And I simply don't feel like subjecting myself to that feeling any longer.

Burn in hell Nakamura, you damn creep.

[Solafighter]

Spoiler for pic of episode 4:

Tell me, what you want. On this frame, she is a guy with a wig.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by Solafighter

She is gonna take something precious from him... Something precious... His virginity?

His otaku's toys/manga/dakimakura/etc?

[LC]

Originally Posted by Solafighter

Spoiler for pic of episode 4:

Tell me, what you want. On this frame, she is a guy with a wig.

She doesn't look like a guy to me here, actually. Sideburns-chan, otoh...