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MisaoFan · 2013-08-28, 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiyuki

From the radio, it has been confirmed that the kanji of Haruto is 遙人 (遙 means far away) while Shoko is 照子 (照 means shine and bright) as expected.

So it seems like Haruto won't have a good ending and Shoko should be some kind of a saviour.
And maybe she will shine together with the Princess? w

OMG, I'm going to worry about Haruto's ending. So as long Shoko will spend some more time with him regardless if they keep getting separated between each other, then I don't mind. She could have saved him as if "saving the damsel in distress" was averted with the reverse gender roles. I cannot imagine what kind of ending Shoko will end up if she's still an independant savior, it remains unpredictable, but I don't want any yuri between her and any girl, since to my own view, yuri should only be in shows with an all-girls cast with a few exceptions, I'd even rather have L-Elf to end up with Shoko.

Fjoergyn · 2013-08-28, 12:31

I do not think we'll see a bit of yuri in valvrave. Hopefully the four protagonists end well but it is doubtful.

Kurohane · 2013-08-28, 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Key Board

Saki manga leak

summary:

Saki rises to popularity
jealous rivals
Saki's mother tries to whore her out for child porn.. literally
Saki runs away from home
She contacts her manager (it's a woman). "I must rise even higher"
Saki's father gets a phone-call.
"Have you ever heard of the VVV project"?

It seems Saki has been considered a VVV candidate since her early days

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Does this mean Haruto and the school will someday meet Saki's parents? I'm wondering what they got out of all this. Man, I get her childhood was messed-up, but dang! Thanks for the info, KeyBoard.

Key Board · 2013-08-28, 13:00

The impression I am getting is Saki has been "sold" to the VVV project

DevilHighDxD · 2013-08-28, 15:30

Saki's parent are really bunch of AssHole aren't they? But doesn't that mean each and very students in the school get "sold" by their parent?

Kurohane · 2013-08-28, 15:37

Who knows? Depends if each of the parents outside Module 77 got the same kind of call. I believe all the parents that were living there already knew.

Key Board · 2013-08-28, 16:09

if believe Kibukawa then every adult is involved in the project somehow.
but the context might be differ from parent to parent.

it's possible that they did so, because they thought it would be the best future for their children
Shoko's father probably thought of it this way too

I have the impression that Saki is living under a new legal guardian in M77, though

Winterson · 2013-08-29, 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiyuki

From the radio, it has been confirmed that the kanji of Haruto is 遙人 (遙 means far away) while Shoko is 照子 (照 means shine and bright) as expected.

So it seems like Haruto won't have a good ending and Shoko should be some kind of a saviour.
And maybe she will shine together with the Princess? w

Shoko has always been the joy of everyone, regardless of how you interpret her enthusiastic way of dealing matters. She is like the light to anyone who has lost hope, but, me, imagining her crying over Haruto hurts. .>~<.

Destined_Fate · 2013-08-30, 00:00

She has already done enough crying after losing her father. Though personally I would rather her cry over L-Elf than Haruto as he actually deserves her tears while one way or another Haruto has only ended up hurting Shoko even if it was intentionally. The girl can forgive a lot from him.

Fjoergyn · 2013-08-30, 08:44

A-drei and Lieselotte aren’t treated as true siblings;
L-elf is aware of the connection between A-drei and Lieselotte;
He learns about Lieselotte’s current situation as a captive from A-drei;
Both L-elf and A-drei were caught in a snow storm;
L-elf uses A-drei as a bait in order to survive OR saves A-drei from certain death;
A-drei calls L-elf’s skills a licht of hope;
Probably what made L-elf ignore A-drei was the fact that A-drei wanted to be the one on top. He wants to rule Dorssia together with L-elf but always above him. A-drei only needs to step down to the same level as L-elf for it to happen.
The chapter doesn’t cover episode 7 (it ends with A-drei shooting L-elf and Haruto in the hangar);
Apparently ham & eggs isn’t actually L-elf’s favorite dish.
Dorssia, is simply a mix of Germany ( Do- for Doitsu ) and Russia ( -ssia) The eagle and flag of Dorssia actually hints to Prussia though.
The Dorssian uniforms and Lieselotte’s dress refer clearly to Germany because of the black,red and gold color. Though at Hitler’s time the color for Germany was black,white and red.
Volume 1 of A-drei manga to be released on October 22nd or 23rd;
Next Sylph issue comes with a poster featuring the five Nazis.
It’s pretty much confirmed that Lieselotte and A-drei might not be siblings although they could be half-siblings or cousins;
L-elf is aware that A-drei knows Lieselotte but A-drei doesn’t know that
L-elf also met her before;
L-elf had Lieselotte’s photo before meeting A-drei;
Before the confront with A-drei in the hangar during episode 7, L-elf wouldn’t have hesitated to kill Haruto if he had to;
Dorssia’s invasion during the same episode was a distraction from the real purpose of their mission (have A-drei sneak in and take photos of the Valvraves);
A-drei understands why L-elf would want to betray Dorssia.
A-drei would have tried to convince L-elf to return if L-elf didn’t speak
first during their conversation (also episode 7);
Saki had an abusive mother who took advantage of her in order to make money;
Saki ran away from her (mother) when she tried to use her for child pornography;
Saki’s father knows about the VVV project;
Saki’s theatrical début happened after she ran away;
The music used in the PV of episode 5 is a popular song in the Valvrave world and not a song Saki composed herself.
While at Karlstein Academy, Only the survivors could become Dorssian’s Soldiers, L-elf killed his opponent without any hesitation shocking A-drei who hesitantly shot a royal member around his age, because she begged him to die by his hand ( by the prince’s ) rather than by the coward soldiers.
L-elf and A-drei were given their code-names after being the last survivors of Karlstein Academy.
In A-drei’s manga, A-drei figured out that it wasn’t L-elf that shot him in the eye but Haruto in L-elf’s body.
As for more details for VVV there exists the anime, a novel, the drama cd, manga ( about Haruto, L-elf, Thunder, Saki )
A-drei has his own manga. ( DORssia) and it includes L-elf’s story as well.
Blitzendegen actually means Blitz und Degen, which refers to a flash and rapier in german.
All in all summary; EVERYONE IS SUFFERING!
No wonder, Gen Urobutcher praised VVV.
All the healing has no end.
Need Season 2 now!
Though it’s highly possible that Season 2 starts out with an AU arc, before getting to the actual serious plot.
Also there are 2 new characters appearing in S2. and two new mechs.

------------------------------------------------ Manga
TL: L-elf!
You survived too!?
In order to annihilate the enemy he used me as a decoy?
Or is it that he saved me…?

(not all pages included but here some more info of the missing pages )

So it’s true you’re from the royal family……
And the royal family with the exception of you…? They were killed?
(missing)
the highest position in the succession to the throne, Princess Lieselotte
is confined at the castle, though I heard she’s safe
…..
Were you close with her? That…
Princess Lieselotte…
…yes…
Long ago I met the princess at the Dorssia castle’s royal family party
Princess Lieselotte is a lady in the highest position in the succession to the throne
Even if I’m part of the royal family, I didn’t have a status such as the princess, so it made me nervous
But no matter whom it was and without any prejudice, the princess would get close to us
Loved by everyone, a kindhearted and sweet lady
…And yet… For things to turn out like this
…hah… The blizzard still hasn’t stopped?

Winterson · 2013-08-30, 08:56

2 new characters and new mechs!

I sense enemies coming.

~~DuelGundam2099~~ · 2013-08-30, 10:56

Where did this all come from?

Fjoergyn · 2013-08-30, 11:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterson

2 new characters and new mechs!

I sense enemies coming.

Hopefully these new characters are not useless as thunder and Kyuma

Key Board · 2013-08-30, 16:57

Quote:

Though it’s highly possible that Season 2 starts out with an AU arc, before getting to the actual serious plot.
Also there are 2 new characters appearing in S2. and two new mechs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterson

2 new characters and new mechs!

I sense enemies coming.

These are wrong

this is someone misunderstanding what the Unit 2 side story is about

vanca · 2013-08-30, 17:00

A new gift for Shoko x L-elf fans:

In VVV's 1st Official Fan Book (published today), Okouchi sensei answer positively about the question regarding the possibility for their pairing:

Ｑ：エルエルフは？ショーコにからみませんか？

Ａ：ショーコはいいですよね。エルエルフの想像を飛び越えてくる感じが。

恋愛の始まりが驚きであるならば彼女以上の相手はいないと思います。

それに彼女のやってきたことをエルエルフは彼なりに認めていると思うし。

Whether they'll really happen or not, this shows that the staffs do know and acknowledge the chemistry and potential for that pairing. L-elf's VA himself, Kimura Ryohei also a fan of Shoko-L elf's interactions

~BC~ · 2013-08-30, 17:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuelGundam2099

Where did this all come from?

4chan. It's a mix of facts and speculations based off a few scans from both side story mangas (Saki and A-Drei) and some other random sources. In other words, don't take everything listed as gospel.

shiyuki · 2013-08-30, 20:24

Simple translation:

Q: So what about L-Elf? Is he interested in Shoko?

A: Shoko would be great. She is always out of L-Elf's expectation.
If L-Elf has to fall in love, Shoko should be the best candidate.
Besides, he has always recognized Shoko's actions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanca

A new gift for Shoko x L-elf fans:

In VVV's 1st Official Fan Book (published today), Okouchi sensei answer positively about the question regarding the possibility for their pairing:

Ｑ：エルエルフは？ショーコにからみませんか？

Ａ：ショーコはいいですよね。エルエルフの想像を飛び越えてくる感じが。

恋愛の始まりが驚きであるならば彼女以上の相手はいないと思います。

それに彼女のやってきたことをエルエルフは彼なりに認めていると思うし。

Whether they'll really happen or not, this shows that the staffs do know and acknowledge the chemistry and potential for that pairing. L-elf's VA himself, Kimura Ryohei also a fan of Shoko-L elf's interactions

Kurohane · 2013-08-30, 21:25

^ I like how whoever answered catered to the fans without giving anything away.

MisaoFan · 2013-08-31, 04:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanca

A new gift for Shoko x L-elf fans:

In VVV's 1st Official Fan Book (published today), Okouchi sensei answer positively about the question regarding the possibility for their pairing:

Ｑ：エルエルフは？ショーコにからみませんか？

Ａ：ショーコはいいですよね。エルエルフの想像を飛び越えてくる感じが。

恋愛の始まりが驚きであるならば彼女以上の相手はいないと思います。

それに彼女のやってきたことをエルエルフは彼なりに認めていると思うし。

Whether they'll really happen or not, this shows that the staffs do know and acknowledge the chemistry and potential for that pairing. L-elf's VA himself, Kimura Ryohei also a fan of Shoko-L elf's interactions

I usually don't care much for L-Elf X Shoko, but it is still better than having Shoko pairing with Akira (just for yuri purposes) or with the villain. I hope L-Elf will get the heart of gold since Shoko is the brightness that shines the series, because without her, I don't know what it is. I would have preferred her to ship with Haruto, but still.

bastek66 · 2013-08-31, 06:03

Characters from that alternate universe, where they find this VVVII

2013-08-28, 13:00	Link #904
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	The impression I am getting is Saki has been "sold" to the VVV project __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

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Kurohane Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012	Who knows? Depends if each of the parents outside Module 77 got the same kind of call. I believe all the parents that were living there already knew. __________________

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Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	if believe Kibukawa then every adult is involved in the project somehow. but the context might be differ from parent to parent. it's possible that they did so, because they thought it would be the best future for their children Shoko's father probably thought of it this way too I have the impression that Saki is living under a new legal guardian in M77, though __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

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Fjoergyn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Last.fm	I do not think we'll see a bit of yuri in valvrave. Hopefully the four protagonists end well but it is doubtful.

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Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	She has already done enough crying after losing her father. Though personally I would rather her cry over L-Elf than Haruto as he actually deserves her tears while one way or another Haruto has only ended up hurting Shoko even if it was intentionally. The girl can forgive a lot from him.

2013-08-30, 08:44	Link #910
Fjoergyn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Last.fm	A-drei and Lieselotte aren’t treated as true siblings; L-elf is aware of the connection between A-drei and Lieselotte; He learns about Lieselotte’s current situation as a captive from A-drei; Both L-elf and A-drei were caught in a snow storm; L-elf uses A-drei as a bait in order to survive OR saves A-drei from certain death; A-drei calls L-elf’s skills a licht of hope; Probably what made L-elf ignore A-drei was the fact that A-drei wanted to be the one on top. He wants to rule Dorssia together with L-elf but always above him. A-drei only needs to step down to the same level as L-elf for it to happen. The chapter doesn’t cover episode 7 (it ends with A-drei shooting L-elf and Haruto in the hangar); Apparently ham & eggs isn’t actually L-elf’s favorite dish. Dorssia, is simply a mix of Germany ( Do- for Doitsu ) and Russia ( -ssia) The eagle and flag of Dorssia actually hints to Prussia though. The Dorssian uniforms and Lieselotte’s dress refer clearly to Germany because of the black,red and gold color. Though at Hitler’s time the color for Germany was black,white and red. Volume 1 of A-drei manga to be released on October 22nd or 23rd; Next Sylph issue comes with a poster featuring the five Nazis. It’s pretty much confirmed that Lieselotte and A-drei might not be siblings although they could be half-siblings or cousins; L-elf is aware that A-drei knows Lieselotte but A-drei doesn’t know that L-elf also met her before; L-elf had Lieselotte’s photo before meeting A-drei; Before the confront with A-drei in the hangar during episode 7, L-elf wouldn’t have hesitated to kill Haruto if he had to; Dorssia’s invasion during the same episode was a distraction from the real purpose of their mission (have A-drei sneak in and take photos of the Valvraves); A-drei understands why L-elf would want to betray Dorssia. A-drei would have tried to convince L-elf to return if L-elf didn’t speak first during their conversation (also episode 7); Saki had an abusive mother who took advantage of her in order to make money; Saki ran away from her (mother) when she tried to use her for child pornography; Saki’s father knows about the VVV project; Saki’s theatrical début happened after she ran away; The music used in the PV of episode 5 is a popular song in the Valvrave world and not a song Saki composed herself. While at Karlstein Academy, Only the survivors could become Dorssian’s Soldiers, L-elf killed his opponent without any hesitation shocking A-drei who hesitantly shot a royal member around his age, because she begged him to die by his hand ( by the prince’s ) rather than by the coward soldiers. L-elf and A-drei were given their code-names after being the last survivors of Karlstein Academy. In A-drei’s manga, A-drei figured out that it wasn’t L-elf that shot him in the eye but Haruto in L-elf’s body. As for more details for VVV there exists the anime, a novel, the drama cd, manga ( about Haruto, L-elf, Thunder, Saki ) A-drei has his own manga. ( DORssia) and it includes L-elf’s story as well. Blitzendegen actually means Blitz und Degen, which refers to a flash and rapier in german. All in all summary; EVERYONE IS SUFFERING! No wonder, Gen Urobutcher praised VVV. All the healing has no end. Need Season 2 now! Though it’s highly possible that Season 2 starts out with an AU arc, before getting to the actual serious plot. Also there are 2 new characters appearing in S2. and two new mechs. ------------------------------------------------ Manga TL: L-elf! You survived too!? In order to annihilate the enemy he used me as a decoy? Or is it that he saved me…? (not all pages included but here some more info of the missing pages ) So it’s true you’re from the royal family…… And the royal family with the exception of you…? They were killed? (missing) the highest position in the succession to the throne, Princess Lieselotte is confined at the castle, though I heard she’s safe ….. Were you close with her? That… Princess Lieselotte… …yes… Long ago I met the princess at the Dorssia castle’s royal family party Princess Lieselotte is a lady in the highest position in the succession to the throne Even if I’m part of the royal family, I didn’t have a status such as the princess, so it made me nervous But no matter whom it was and without any prejudice, the princess would get close to us Loved by everyone, a kindhearted and sweet lady …And yet… For things to turn out like this …hah… The blizzard still hasn’t stopped?

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~~DuelGundam2099~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Feb 2013	Where did this all come from?

2013-08-30, 17:00	Link #915
vanca Member Join Date: May 2013	A new gift for Shoko x L-elf fans: In VVV's 1st Official Fan Book (published today), Okouchi sensei answer positively about the question regarding the possibility for their pairing: Ｑ：エルエルフは？ショーコにからみませんか？Ａ：ショーコはいいですよね。エルエルフの想像を飛び越えてくる感じが。恋愛の始まりが驚きであるならば彼女以上の相手はいないと思います。それに彼女のやってきたことをエルエルフは彼なりに認めていると思うし。 Whether they'll really happen or not, this shows that the staffs do know and acknowledge the chemistry and potential for that pairing. L-elf's VA himself, Kimura Ryohei also a fan of Shoko-L elf's interactions

2013-08-30, 21:25	Link #918
Kurohane Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012	^ I like how whoever answered catered to the fans without giving anything away. __________________

2013-08-31, 06:03	Link #920
bastek66 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012	Characters from that alternate universe, where they find this VVVII __________________