Shakugan no Shana III - Episode 10 Discussion / Poll

[-Sho-]

Kinda dissapoint for the "war". That was so easy to break the forteress & beats guys...

Anyway , airplanes part was hilarious , it look like bombers launching their bombs.

[alvinkhorfire]

Originally Posted by Elf song

He left the SoF team to *cough*
Soon you will know

Thanks for the confirmation, Elf song. So, Sabrac is going to do "you-know-what", similar to what is written in the novel. Yes, I did read the novel summary. And, I just want to confirm what will happen next. Thanks again.

With Samuel around, you can instantly create a base on a flat land, anywhere the world. That is just so convenient for Flame Hazes.

Originally Posted by Om Nerabdator

where did that power up come from anyway O_o

My opinion goes like this. Firstly, Shana yearns for more power. Such strong desire propels huge power boost for her. For that, you must aware that Hougus, such as Reiji Maigo, are produced by the common desire of tomogara and humans. So, you can see that desire is one of the key concepts in this anime, other than the most important concept: love.

Secondly, Shana has set her own definition of "Flame-Haired Burning-Eyed Hunter", that is unique to her only. Recall that she was given very little information about how the previous "Flame-Haired Burning-Eyed Hunter", Mathilde Saint-Omer, battle and her unrestricted spells. The reason why both Alastor and Wilhelmina chose to limit such information was to prevent Shana from being overly influenced by Mathilde's preferred methods, in a way that will limit Shana's imagination and creativity.

In this episode, Alastor had revealed that a Flame Haze's power derives from the image of strength the contractor holds and from its fusion with the Crimson Lord's power. In other words, how you define yourself as a Flame Haze will affect the outcome whether you can be a strong Flame Haze. In Season 1, you can see how weak Shana is, to the point that she really needed Nietono no Shana to unleash her flame, when she could have released her flame easily without any external help. Why? It is probably because she had not really defined herself as "Flame-Haired Burning-Eyed Hunter". She just fought aimlessly, severely limiting her strength.

Recall that Snake of the Festival is the equal and counter of Alastor. Its significance is that Shana has the potential to be strong as Snake of the Festival Sakai Yuji. In terms of strength, no other Flame Hazes can match Snake of the Festival Sakai Yuji, other than Shana herself only, I believe. Being contracted to Alastor, the God of Atonement, does carry a huge responsibility. After all, Shana is supposed to be the strongest. And yet, that potential remained untapped, making Shana to be perceived as weak and be taken lightly even by the Trinity.

Not anymore. By finally deciding how she should use her power of existence, she has successfully defined her own unique version of "Flame-Haired Burning-Eyed Hunter", that suits her way of fighting and her thinking. As a result, it unlocks her hidden potential, effectively utilizing her rightful strength. If I remember correctly, Mathilde was very strong back then and thus was feared by other Crimson Denizens. So, there is no reason why Shana cannot be strong as Mathilde, if not stronger.

This is my opinion, though. Should you need a more accurate answer, please consult other Shana experts.

[Giriath]

Originally Posted by Om Nerabdator

where did that power up come from anyway O_o

At the ever present and ever so noticeable all-powerful hand of the authors.

The best way to accurately predict the outcome of this show is to guess what the authors think the audience will consider most dramatic.

[elior]

Originally Posted by alvinkhorfire

Thanks for the confirmation, Elf song. So, Sabrac is going to do "you-know-what", similar what is written in the novel. Yes, I did read the novel summary. And, I just want to confirm what will happen next. Thanks again.

With Samuel around, you can instantly create a base on a flat land, anywhere the world. That is just so convenient for Flame Hazes.


My opinion goes like this. Firstly, Shana yearns for more power. Such strong desire propels huge power boost for her For that, you must aware that Hougus, such as Reiji Maigo, are produced by the common desire of tomogara and humans. So, you can see that desire is one of the key concept in this anime, other than love.

Secondly, Shana has set her own definition of "Flame-Haired Burning-Eyed Hunter", that is unique to her only. Recall that she was given very little information about how the previous "Flame-Haired Burning-Eyed Hunter", Mathilde Saint-Omer, battle and her unrestricted spells. The reason why both Alastor and Wilhelmina chose to limit such information was to prevent Shana from being overly influenced by Mathilde's preferred methods, in a way that will limit Shana's imagination and creativity.

In this episode, Alastor had revealed that a Flame Haze's power derives from the image of strength the contractor holds and from its fusion with the Crimson Lord's power. In other words, how you define yourself as a Flame Haze will affect the outcome whether you can be a strong Flame Haze. In Season 1, you can see how weak Shana is, to the point that she really needed Nietono no Shana to unleash her flame, when she could have released her flame easily without any external help. Why? It is probably because she had not really defined herself as "Flame-Haired Burning-Eyed Hunter". She just fought aimlessly, severely limiting her strength.

Recall that Snake of the Festival is the equal and counter of Alastor. Its significance is that Shana has the potential to be strong as Snake of the Festival Sakai Yuji. In terms of strength, no other Flame Hazes can match Snake of the Festival Sakai Yuji, other than Shana herself only, I believe. Being contracted to Alastor, the God of Atonement carries a huge responsibility. After all, Shana is supposed to be the strongest. And yet, that potential remained untapped, making Shana to be perceived as weak.

Not anymore. By finally deciding how she should use her power of existence, she has successfully defined her own unique version of "Flame-Haired Burning-Eyed Hunter", that suits her way of fighting and her thinking. As a result, it unlocks her hidden potential.

This is my opinion, though. Should you need a more accurate answer, please consult other Shana experts.

is decarabia going to fight next episode when he will come out of his place?

[elleinad00]

Originally Posted by alvinkhorfire

My opinion goes like this. Firstly, Shana yearns for more power. Such strong desire propels huge power boost for her. For that, you must aware that Hougus, such as Reiji Maigo, are produced by the common desire of tomogara and humans. So, you can see that desire is one of the key concept in this anime, other than the most important concept: love.

Secondly, Shana has set her own definition of "Flame-Haired Burning-Eyed Hunter", that is unique to her only. Recall that she was given very little information about how the previous "Flame-Haired Burning-Eyed Hunter", Mathilde Saint-Omer, battle and her unrestricted spells. The reason why both Alastor and Wilhelmina chose to limit such information was to prevent Shana from being overly influenced by Mathilde's preferred methods, in a way that will limit Shana's imagination and creativity.

In this episode, Alastor had revealed that a Flame Haze's power derives from the image of strength the contractor holds and from its fusion with the Crimson Lord's power. In other words, how you define yourself as a Flame Haze will affect the outcome whether you can be a strong Flame Haze. In Season 1, you can see how weak Shana is, to the point that she really needed Nietono no Shana to unleash her flame, when she could have released her flame easily without any external help. Why? It is probably because she had not really defined herself as "Flame-Haired Burning-Eyed Hunter". She just fought aimlessly, severely limiting her strength.

Recall that Snake of the Festival is the equal and counter of Alastor. Its significance is that Shana has the potential to be strong as Snake of the Festival Sakai Yuji. In terms of strength, no other Flame Hazes can match Snake of the Festival Sakai Yuji, other than Shana herself only, I believe. Being contracted to Alastor, the God of Atonement, does carry a huge responsibility. After all, Shana is supposed to be the strongest. And yet, that potential remained untapped, making Shana to be perceived as weak and be taken lightly even by the Trinity.

Not anymore. By finally deciding how she should use her power of existence, she has successfully defined her own unique version of "Flame-Haired Burning-Eyed Hunter", that suits her way of fighting and her thinking. As a result, it unlocks her hidden potential, effectively utilizing her rightful strength. If I remember correctly, Mathilde was very strong back then and thus was feared by other Crimson Denizens. So, there is no reason why Shana cannot be strong as Mathilde, if not stronger.

This is my opinion, though. Should you need a more accurate answer, please consult other Shana experts.

One thing too is that she was called "The Great One" right......

[Ec1ge]

Perfect 10/10.
A terrific amount of fighting (Shana + huge fireball + flame arm + every other thing) = WIN.
Although it seems to me that they kinda "rushed" the part where Shana realizes Alastor's and her potential [but I kinda understand b/c of time constrictions.]
Either way, every1 was kicking a*s and taking names :'D

Originally Posted by Marcus H.

(By the way, I haven't watched the episode, so )
Hmm, so Purson (the lion), Uvall (the camel) and Ribesal (the scarab beetle) have been killed?
Eh, they're named fodder anyway. Purson's ability is mere disruption, Uvall summons beeeees, and Ribesal can be killed easily by an area-of-effect attack.

i.e. The three are all named fodder.

People KIA:

- Purson was killed
- Uvall was killed
- Ribesal wasn't

[ars89]

Nice to Lamie again, but he was sure bent on having Wilhelmina not go to that specific place, wonder what he's guarding. Lol how she was upset a little that Shana was fine by herself.

Shana starting to get stronger is awesome. Was is Wilhelmina that brought the castle down? Sophie's plan is interesting. Lol why did they erect a makeshift castle? Decarabia has too good an intuition.

Finally we get more of Margery. Hopefully Satou can wake her up.

[alvinkhorfire]

Originally Posted by ars89

Was is Wilhelmina that brought the castle down?

My guess is that constant bombardment of Seireiden by the carnage specialists , Khamsin and Rebecca, has weakened it, until it cannot float by itself. Still, your assumption may be correct as well.

Originally Posted by ars89

Lol why did they erect a makeshift castle?

In my opinion, Flame Hazes can use it as a proper base, so that they can mount tactical attack on Seireiden. It does look impressive, though. And, at least in this anime, the saying "Rome wasn't built in a day" can be proven wrong.

[Senshigeia]

Originally Posted by alvinkhorfire

Thanks for the confirmation, Elf song. So, Sabrac is going to do "you-know-what", similar to what is written in the novel. Yes, I did read the novel summary. And, I just want to confirm what will happen next. Thanks again.

With Samuel around, you can instantly create a base on a flat land, anywhere the world. That is just so convenient for Flame Hazes.


My opinion goes like this. Firstly, Shana yearns for more power. Such strong desire propels huge power boost for her. For that, you must aware that Hougus, such as Reiji Maigo, are produced by the common desire of tomogara and humans. So, you can see that desire is one of the key concept in this anime, other than the most important concept: love.

Secondly, Shana has set her own definition of "Flame-Haired Burning-Eyed Hunter", that is unique to her only. Recall that she was given very little information about how the previous "Flame-Haired Burning-Eyed Hunter", Mathilde Saint-Omer, battle and her unrestricted spells. The reason why both Alastor and Wilhelmina chose to limit such information was to prevent Shana from being overly influenced by Mathilde's preferred methods, in a way that will limit Shana's imagination and creativity.

In this episode, Alastor had revealed that a Flame Haze's power derives from the image of strength the contractor holds and from its fusion with the Crimson Lord's power. In other words, how you define yourself as a Flame Haze will affect the outcome whether you can be a strong Flame Haze. In Season 1, you can see how weak Shana is, to the point that she really needed Nietono no Shana to unleash her flame, when she could have released her flame easily without any external help. Why? It is probably because she had not really defined herself as "Flame-Haired Burning-Eyed Hunter". She just fought aimlessly, severely limiting her strength.

Recall that Snake of the Festival is the equal and counter of Alastor. Its significance is that Shana has the potential to be strong as Snake of the Festival Sakai Yuji. In terms of strength, no other Flame Hazes can match Snake of the Festival Sakai Yuji, other than Shana herself only, I believe. Being contracted to Alastor, the God of Atonement, does carry a huge responsibility. After all, Shana is supposed to be the strongest. And yet, that potential remained untapped, making Shana to be perceived as weak and be taken lightly even by the Trinity.

Not anymore. By finally deciding how she should use her power of existence, she has successfully defined her own unique version of "Flame-Haired Burning-Eyed Hunter", that suits her way of fighting and her thinking. As a result, it unlocks her hidden potential, effectively utilizing her rightful strength. If I remember correctly, Mathilde was very strong back then and thus was feared by other Crimson Denizens. So, there is no reason why Shana cannot be strong as Mathilde, if not stronger.

This is my opinion, though. Should you need a more accurate answer, please consult other Shana experts.

Beautifully explained!
Shana is supposed to be stronger than Mathilde: I mean, Mathilde died using Tempa-Jousai, right? Shana used it once, and didn't die.

[taichi-kun]

so lamie helped carmel-san , that was unexpected for me... I don't know his reasons.

great episode

We are still in volume 18 ?

[Marcus H.]

lamie helped carmel-san

Well, for a veteran Crimson Lord and one of the most respected spellcasters of all time, he shows that "it doesn't matter whether you're a Crimson Denizen or a Flame Haze as long as we can get along".

[Kristen]

Shana nomination for SaiGar, anyone?

[alvinkhorfire]

@taichi-kun
yes, you are right. With this episode, important events up to Chapter 3 of Volume 18 have been animated. The sole remaining part of Volume 18 that has not been animated is epilogue, which states one interesting event. Hopefully, we will get see it being animated next week. Don't miss the next episode!

@Kristen
I am sure that some of us are interested. Could you please give the direct link of the nomination here? Thanks.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Does anyone else notice that Domino is really really fat and big? I mean he's...huge....

[Ec1ge]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Does anyone else notice that Domino is really really fat and big? I mean he's...huge....

Domino is a girl

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Ec1ge

Domino is a girl

Hurr all I ever noticed is it getting molested painfully...by the Prof...where was it stated that it was female?

Originally Posted by taichi-kun

so lamie helped carmel-san , that was unexpected for me... I don't know his reasons.

great episode

We are still in volume 18 ?

Mid-end....

The power up is in the latter portion...

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Marcus H.

^ I actually prefer fights to be handled like this than to slow down everything and focus on each single fight ala Bleach. We don't have enough time to dwell on the minor cast, so it's best to give them the atmosphere of conflict while the real battle happens elsewhere.

If they do this for Haborym, Decarabia and the other commanders getting recalled to face the invasion force, I'll be annoyed.....coz they are hardly "minor"

From the way their scenes were written though....unlikely...I hope.

The best way to accurately predict the outcome of this show is to guess what the authors think the audience will consider most dramatic.

So then what will happen all the way in the end?

[Ec1ge]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Hurr all I ever noticed is it getting molested painfully...by the Prof...where was it stated that it was female?



Mid-end....

The power up is in the latter portion...

Pay attention to the voice lol.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Ec1ge

Pay attention to the voice lol.

How can you tell....It sounds more asexual...

[abc0716]

Lol @ the lion-looking villain uses Vuvuzela as weapon.

Otherwise, the rest of the episode is pretty bleh...