Edge of Tomorrow (2014)- Tom Cruise

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by killer3000ad

So it's basically Groundhog day meets Starship Troopers.

Pretty much, though it's more consistent with the aesthetic of Starship Troopers most people imagine than the actual Starship Troopers movies we currently have.

Also, don't we need to have the thread title changed to "Edge of Tomorrow" as per the movie's now current title?

[Renegade334]

A slightly better look at the exoskeleton:



Doesn't look like the hand guards can be used as brass knuckles (which, I believe, is possible with either the real-life HULC or Sarcos prototype suits). OTOH, I could easily see the system being used to make the M2HB or M134 Minigun man-portable. Well, at the very least, it looks more intimidating than what Matt Damon was wearing in Elysium.

[Roger Rambo]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Also, don't we need to have the thread title changed to "Edge of Tomorrow" as per the movie's now current title?

Tried changing the title in the edit function, but it only seemed to effect the title within the thread, so not sure what to do about that.

Originally Posted by Renegade334

Doesn't look like the hand guards can be used as brass knuckles (which, I believe, is possible with either the real-life HULC or Sarcos prototype suits). OTOH, I could easily see the system being used to make the M2HB or M134 Minigun man-portable. Well, at the very least, it looks more intimidating than what Matt Damon was wearing in Elysium.

Well at least the Elysium skeleton had some kinda of energy shield protection, didn't it?

Though not entirely sure I find the suits all that intimidating honestly. It's bulky, but the exposed unarmored operators just makes me think of all the airburst fragmentation rounds turning everyone of these guys in a 100 meter radius into casualties.

...also, does the physical performance of the suits seem a bit inconsistent in the trailer? A few scenes with individually have the suits zippineem to have trouble managing a slow awkward waddle forward.g around and smashing cars and watnot...then in the beachhead scene the suits s

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

Tried changing the title in the edit function, but it only seemed to effect the title within the thread, so not sure what to do about that.

Try PM or VM a mod of your choice or simply click the 'report' button on your own opening post and ask for the title of the thread to be changed.

As for the movie itself, I bet some Hollywood critics will accuse this of ripping off Groundhog Days, Starship Troopers & Elysium at the same time .

[Kyero Fox]

Look at that strong female lead, I can't wait to hear how the movie is still sexist in some delusional way. Lol

[Renegade334]

For those who haven't heard, Obata Takechi, the mangaka of Death Note and Bakuman fame, has just published the first chapter of the novel's manga adaptation in the Shuukan Young Jump magazine. The scenario adaptation will be left to Takeuchi Ryosuke, who recently did St&rs, another sci-fi series.

Spoiler for a couple scans; click on the thumbnails to enlarge:

It's interesting to note that the exoskeletons are more Halo-ish than the movie's HULC-ish vision. And...in the first chapter, the MC

Spoiler:

dies at least four times...he even commits suicide within his own barracks to test the groundhog day theory.

Dunno how exactly they'll be portrayed in the movie, but the extraterrestrials in the manga are sort of like Laser-type BETAs + Pacman hybrids.

[Roger Rambo]

Originally Posted by Renegade334

It's interesting to note that the exoskeletons are more Halo-ish than the movie's HULC-ish vision.

Also different than the more light walking carapace tank that I'd imagined from the light novel. Downplays the kind of heavy weapons the suits had (like shoulder mounted recoilless/rocket and autocannon machine-guns). It still doesn't look too bad, though I think Rita is a bit more pink than crimson here. Though since it's B&W, that won't come up most of the time.


...I do kinda hate how American mechanical cartoon art makes me feel a bit weeaboo at times though.




This does not satisfy any of my machine porn needs.

[Renegade334]

The exoskeleton is still quite bulky, as those two pages suggest:

Spoiler for click on the thumbnails to enlarge:

But the exos still carry normal weapons like Type 88-like LMGs and such... Though the cover does show that oversized weapons like that big-ass axe are also available for...more specialized? units.

Oh, and Rita has already made her appearance in the first chapter.

Spoiler:

For safety's sake, I suggest we keep future posts about the manga adaptation to the thread I've just created in the manga board.

[Gundamx]

I guess this movie just used same plot as novel but different characters and place
(For example look at muv-luv alt)

At-least they didn't shy from that and give us DRAGON BALL MOVIE 2.0

by they way, anyone know if the novel have sequel?

[momotarou]

　　　　　　Original　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　Movie

Title: All you need is kill 　　　　　　　　　　　　　Edge of tomorrow

Hero:　　Kiriya Keiji(Killer cage)　　　　　　　　　　　Bill Cage(Tom cruise )
　　　　　Japanese　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　American　
　　　　　Age18　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　Age51
　　　　　Recruit　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　Lieutenant Colonel(relegated to the front)

Heroine: Rita Vrataski(Bitch of the Battlefield)　　　　Rita Vrataski(Emily Blunt)
　　　　　 American　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　American
　　　　　Redhead　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　Blond
　　　　　Age19(misrepresentation of age 20s) 　　　Age30
　　　　　Warrant Officer 　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　?????

Superior:Bartolome Farrell　　　　　　　　　　　　　　Farrell Bartolome
　　　　　Naturalized Japanese(Japanese Brazilian)　American
　　　　　Sergeant　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　　General

Main Wepon:Huge Battle Axe　　　　　　　　　　　　 Bastard Sword

Mobile jacket:

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[Roger Rambo]

I'm sorta morbidly interested in how they're going to get Tom Cruise as a Lieutenant Colonel whose never been within 50 miles of the frontline dumped into a penal battalion as a foot slogging grunt. I can only imagine something a tad melodramatic used as the setup for this.

[Wild Goose]

I know of at least one Lt. Colonel who never managed to get to a combat zone, despite serving during Gulf 1 and 2.

Anyway I'm cautiously anticipatory. Who knows, it might actually be quite good. I had my doubts on Pacific Rim, and wasn't expecting anything great from it, but I was converted. Maybe this movie will do something similar.

[Roger Rambo]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

I know of at least one Lt. Colonel who never managed to get to a combat zone, despite serving during Gulf 1 and 2.

Well that's pretty easy when you realize that the majority of an army needs to be logistics.

Though USUALLY you don't see rear line Lt. Colonels getting booted into the infantry.

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

I know of at least one Lt. Colonel who never managed to get to a combat zone, despite serving during Gulf 1 and 2.

Right, but

The human race wasn't facing the brink of extinction, with majority of Earth destroyed and conquered by alien monsters during the Gulf War.

The desperation level is thousandfold, it makes it less believable that someone serving in the military for decades not seeing the combat against these aliens.

[Mr. DJ]

The desperation level hasn't even hit Terminator future levels looking at the trailer :3

I don't know how the story goes for the book, but the trailer nor the description says how long they've been fighting the aliens.

[Roger Rambo]

Originally Posted by aohige

Right, but

The human race wasn't facing the brink of extinction, with majority of Earth destroyed and conquered by alien monsters during the Gulf War.

The desperation level is thousandfold, it makes it less believable that someone serving in the military for decades not seeing the combat against these aliens.

Well to be faiiiiir, you still do need officers to be in charge of rear line logistics. So it's not like it's impossible to have guys who wouldn't have officers who wouldn't be engaged in combat.

[grylsyjaeger]

10:1

That's the ratio of support services personnel to combat personnel in the Australian Army.

And support service corps have more officers than other corps because of the heavy administrative and logistics burdens.

I imagine most other armies around the world have similar ratios.

[Roger Rambo]

Originally Posted by grylsyjaeger

10:1

That's the ratio of support services personnel to combat personnel in the Australian Army.

And support service corps have more officers than other corps because of the heavy administrative and logistics burdens.

I imagine most other armies around the world have similar ratios.

Yeah. Allot of people don't really realize how logistically intensive modern warfare is...especially when you're trying to launch offensive operations as shown in these trailers. Who do you suppose keeps all those air planes, vehicles, ships and troops supplied with supplies and fuel?


It gets even crazier when you realize that the logistical tail end you're sending to support your army ALSO has a logistical tail end (trucks and supply planes and ships need fuel to you know)

[Wild Goose]

Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

Well that's pretty easy when you realize that the majority of an army needs to be logistics.

Though USUALLY you don't see rear line Lt. Colonels getting booted into the infantry.

Tom Kratman. He was an Infantry officer, and was IIRC a Captain or a Major during Gulf 1, missed that for something, and then as an LTC missed Gulf 2 and wound up and Command & Staff college. (Admittedly he missed Gulf 2 due to a heart attack.)

Also, speaking with a guy I know on Spacebattles who's up for LTC, as a general rule, about 40% of all LTCs in the US Army will hold a battalion command, but that includes the logistics guys and what's termed as Combat Service & Support. If you go pure infantry, 70-80% of all Infantry Lt. Colonels will cycle through a battalion command tour.

Originally Posted by aohige

Right, but

The human race wasn't facing the brink of extinction, with majority of Earth destroyed and conquered by alien monsters during the Gulf War.

The desperation level is thousandfold, it makes it less believable that someone serving in the military for decades not seeing the combat against these aliens.

From the looks of it, this guy was a REMF, in a posting far away from combat. Such things are possible (especially if his track wasn't as a line officer, like an Intel or Public Affairs billet).

Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

Yeah. Allot of people don't really realize how logistically intensive modern warfare is...especially when you're trying to launch offensive operations as shown in these trailers. Who do you suppose keeps all those air planes, vehicles, ships and troops supplied with supplies and fuel?


It gets even crazier when you realize that the logistical tail end you're sending to support your army ALSO has a logistical tail end (trucks and supply planes and ships need fuel to you know)

I'm reminded of what Eisenhower said were the three things that won World War 2: The Deuce-and-half truck, the C-47, and the jeep.

[Roger Rambo]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

Tom Kratman. He was an Infantry officer, and was IIRC a Captain or a Major during Gulf 1, missed that for something, and then as an LTC missed Gulf 2 and wound up and Command & Staff college. (Admittedly he missed Gulf 2 due to a heart attack.)

Also, speaking with a guy I know on Spacebattles who's up for LTC, as a general rule, about 40% of all LTCs in the US Army will hold a battalion command, but that includes the logistics guys and what's termed as Combat Service & Support. If you go pure infantry, 70-80% of all Infantry Lt. Colonels will cycle through a battalion command tour.

...I should probably rephrase "booted into the infantry" to "booted into being an exo-suit infantry rifleman".

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

From the looks of it, this guy was a REMF, in a posting far away from combat. Such things are possible (especially if his track wasn't as a line officer, like an Intel or Public Affairs billet).

Which again brings up the question of how he went from being a REMF POG officer to being dropped into the first wave with infantry.


I'm guessing they'll have Cruise be some smug asshole who gets himself into trouble, or they'll play him more virtuously and some convoluted situation will occur that will require him to stand up for all that is right and all that lame stuff, and as punishment, get assigned to be a grunt.