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Ultenth · 2008-10-03, 18:55

Overall I liked the ending, and even though the rest and move away thing with Nakasugi kind of bummed me out, I understand it because I'm sure they want to start fresh with the next season. Still kinda silly that he just let her go like that after giving up his life for hers, but whatever I guess.

golthin · 2008-10-03, 19:09

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Originally Posted by Ultenth

Overall I liked the ending, and even though the rest and move away thing with Nakasugi kind of bummed me out, I understand it because I'm sure they want to start fresh with the next season. Still kinda silly that he just let her go like that after giving up his life for hers, but whatever I guess.

well, she was transfering schools and she had a shot at being happy. He was just thinking about her. If he had tried to make her remember, she could also remember all the bad things. He was sacrifying his feelings for her, i guess it was a lesser sacrify than what he did before, he was ready to die for her.

Ultenth · 2008-10-03, 19:20

Yeah, I understand that since her grandpa died she would probably have to go live with other relatives, and thus change schools. And that it's good in some ways that she forgot trying to destroy the world. But still, I would think if a guy is originally willing to give up the world for a girl, then decides to himself die so she can live, that he might consider trying to get her to fall for him again, maybe moving with her, or something like that. I dunno, you'd think if someone was that much in love to go to that extremes that they wouldn't be intimidated by the fact that she forgot their time together, or had to move, and wouldn't just give up on her.

Yu Ominae · 2008-10-03, 19:40

Looks like Revi's gonna be in the next season and more of Gomez!

FlareKnight · 2008-10-04, 16:35

Well the ending was alright though wasn't that great either. Plenty of expected stuff with Senkawa losing yet another body and frankly at some point they should just say he's dead and save the expense

. At least they managed to keep the planet from getting annihilated which would have been a bad thing.

Would have been nice if Birdy got one more good fight before this season was over. But hopefully she will get her chance later on.

golthin · 2008-10-04, 23:49

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Originally Posted by FlareKnight

Well the ending was alright though wasn't that great either. Plenty of expected stuff with Senkawa losing yet another body and frankly at some point they should just say he's dead and save the expense

. At least they managed to keep the planet from getting annihilated which would have been a bad thing.

Would have been nice if Birdy got one more good fight before this season was over. But hopefully she will get her chance later on.

supposedly this time they are going to take longer to get his body ready. Last time birdy was at the brink of being absorbed by Senkawa. I know they are sharing body for the sake of the plot, but birdy should get someone else to carry that pest till the body is ready.

FlareKnight · 2008-10-04, 23:51

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supposedly this time they are going to take longer to get his body ready. Last time birdy was at the brink of being absorbed by Senkawa. I know they are sharing body for the sake of the plot, but birdy should get someone else to carry that pest till the body is ready.

Seriously

. Dump him on some poor intern and save Birdy the danger of absorption. That guy just isn't worth it.

Guardian Enzo · 2008-10-05, 01:28

Rather liked the ending myself. Wasn't over-wrought, but quite consistent and believable in the context of the flow of the series. And Nakasugi had to be cleared out of the way for romance between Senkawa and Birdy to bloom (which should be an interesting take on "self-love"). I like both characters and found the relationship rather touching in it's way - more of a sibling thing for now, but I see that changing.

NaturalManiac · 2008-10-05, 10:18

My thoughts on Birdy are that the series was ok, but at the same time it felt to me like they sullied the original work a bit, the manga from 2003. They basically just used the same characters, except for the two introductory episodes where it followed the manga most of the time.

Admittedly, trying to crank in all the story from the manga is an impossible task, but couldn't they at least used the basic story instead of making this one up.

At least they showed the real evil mastermind at the end,

Spoiler for manga:

Hopefully they will use the manga story in the next season, a bit chopped up though since they have slaughtered the start of it in this season.

One final note, I think Senkawa is much more likable and dependable in the manga compared to the anime. And that seem to be the one thing everyone dislikes about the anime. Anyway, let's keep our fingers crossed for the next season.

Ultenth · 2008-10-05, 10:33

I thought the original story was from back in the mid-80's?

dahak · 2008-10-05, 10:40

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And Nakasugi had to be cleared out of the way for romance between Senkawa and Birdy to bloom (which should be an interesting take on "self-love").

I suspect a Hayamiya/Senkawa/Birdy love triangle myself for next season.

Ultenth · 2008-10-05, 11:06

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I suspect a Hayamiya/Senkawa/Birdy love triangle myself for next season.

Yeah, I do too, especially with the hint Hayamiya dropped at the very end of the episode to Senkawa about someone close to him, which is great because it also applies to Birdy as well.

dahak · 2008-10-05, 13:22

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I thought the original story was from back in the mid-80's?

It was [The OVA was based on that version], but the author did a restart [because he wasn't happy with the original] which Decode is based on..

IMSabbel · 2008-10-05, 13:49

Maybe i am just remembering the OVA a bit wrong, but did they spin the "bodysharing" a bit different this time?

I certainly remember the OVA being quite a bit in the gender-bender area, while during DECODE, they didnt want it to go there (the way the one in "the backseat" was handled, for example. It never felt like they share one body. It was more like there are 2 bodies, and they just switch them around...)

JediNight · 2008-10-05, 14:49

The way they get rid of Nakasugi was too heavy-handed and stupid though. "Even though you loved her and were willing to die for her, she has amnesia now and is moving away. Oops. Go for Birdy now!"

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golthin · 2008-10-05, 16:33

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Originally Posted by Ultenth

Yeah, I do too, especially with the hint Hayamiya dropped at the very end of the episode to Senkawa about someone close to him, which is great because it also applies to Birdy as well.

I also think so, she following him in the building was not just because she is a close friend. She can cover her feelings well though, she never showed any jealousy when senkawa was dating Nakasugi.

Switizle · 2008-10-07, 07:51

Omg, I love this show ;_; wheres all the fanart

Shiroth · 2008-10-07, 07:53

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Omg, I love this show ;_; wheres all the fanart

There's not a lot. I've posted what there is of it while the show was airing in this thread.

NaturalManiac · 2008-10-08, 12:05

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Originally Posted by Ultenth

I thought the original story was from back in the mid-80's?

I should have worded it better. To me the original, or source whatever fits best, is the newer manga from 2003. The first one was only about one volume if I have understood it correct, compared to the 19 volumes that is out with the new one.

Spoiler for manga:

DarkLordOfkichiku · 2008-10-08, 14:29

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Spoiler for manga:

That's true enough. She'll probably take the postion of the LI in season 2, so it's unlikely that Birdy will become his LI such as it is (would be an interesting situation though, all things considered). Althrough...

Spoiler for manga:

2008-10-03, 19:40	Link #464
Yu Ominae ARCAM Spriggan agent Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Coquitlam, BC, Canada/Quezon City, Philippines	Looks like Revi's gonna be in the next season and more of Gomez! __________________ Even if we were at odds with each other, I still thank you for training me, Instructor Bowman - Yu Ominae, reflecting on Bowman's death after killing him in Phantom Island

2008-10-04, 16:35	Link #465
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	Well the ending was alright though wasn't that great either. Plenty of expected stuff with Senkawa losing yet another body and frankly at some point they should just say he's dead and save the expense . At least they managed to keep the planet from getting annihilated which would have been a bad thing. Would have been nice if Birdy got one more good fight before this season was over. But hopefully she will get her chance later on. __________________ Anime-Evo

2008-10-05, 10:18	Link #469
NaturalManiac Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008	My thoughts on Birdy are that the series was ok, but at the same time it felt to me like they sullied the original work a bit, the manga from 2003. They basically just used the same characters, except for the two introductory episodes where it followed the manga most of the time. Admittedly, trying to crank in all the story from the manga is an impossible task, but couldn't they at least used the basic story instead of making this one up. At least they showed the real evil mastermind at the end, Spoiler for manga: the space terrorist Cristella Revi. Hopefully they will use the manga story in the next season, a bit chopped up though since they have slaughtered the start of it in this season. One final note, I think Senkawa is much more likable and dependable in the manga compared to the anime. And that seem to be the one thing everyone dislikes about the anime. Anyway, let's keep our fingers crossed for the next season.

2008-10-03, 18:55	Link #461
Ultenth Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Washington State	Overall I liked the ending, and even though the rest and move away thing with Nakasugi kind of bummed me out, I understand it because I'm sure they want to start fresh with the next season. Still kinda silly that he just let her go like that after giving up his life for hers, but whatever I guess.

2008-10-03, 19:20	Link #463
Ultenth Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Washington State	Yeah, I understand that since her grandpa died she would probably have to go live with other relatives, and thus change schools. And that it's good in some ways that she forgot trying to destroy the world. But still, I would think if a guy is originally willing to give up the world for a girl, then decides to himself die so she can live, that he might consider trying to get her to fall for him again, maybe moving with her, or something like that. I dunno, you'd think if someone was that much in love to go to that extremes that they wouldn't be intimidated by the fact that she forgot their time together, or had to move, and wouldn't just give up on her.

2008-10-05, 01:28	Link #468
Guardian Enzo Seishu's Ace Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kobe, Japan	Rather liked the ending myself. Wasn't over-wrought, but quite consistent and believable in the context of the flow of the series. And Nakasugi had to be cleared out of the way for romance between Senkawa and Birdy to bloom (which should be an interesting take on "self-love"). I like both characters and found the relationship rather touching in it's way - more of a sibling thing for now, but I see that changing.

2008-10-05, 10:33	Link #470
Ultenth Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Washington State	I thought the original story was from back in the mid-80's?

2008-10-05, 13:49	Link #474
IMSabbel Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003	Maybe i am just remembering the OVA a bit wrong, but did they spin the "bodysharing" a bit different this time? I certainly remember the OVA being quite a bit in the gender-bender area, while during DECODE, they didnt want it to go there (the way the one in "the backseat" was handled, for example. It never felt like they share one body. It was more like there are 2 bodies, and they just switch them around...)

2008-10-05, 14:49	Link #475
JediNight キズランダム Join Date: Apr 2003	The way they get rid of Nakasugi was too heavy-handed and stupid though. "Even though you loved her and were willing to die for her, she has amnesia now and is moving away. Oops. Go for Birdy now!" ....

2008-10-07, 07:51	Link #477
Switizle Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007	Omg, I love this show ;_; wheres all the fanart