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Randrak42 · 2016-08-19, 10:29

A Sinbad focused chapter?

*stops caring*

DragonOsman · 2016-08-19, 13:10

Oh, come on. It seems like he could stop being an antagonist, so it's actually good. IMO at least.

Randrak42 · 2016-08-19, 17:01

Eh....I just never liked Sinbad in the first place. Not gonna start now even if he stops being an antagonist (which I'm sure wont happen).

ninjastarforcex · 2016-08-19, 17:24

like any shonen manga, it's getting real boring after timeskip zZz
i like battle shonen adventure manga, not political shit like this

DragonOsman · 2016-08-20, 16:29

@Randrak: Sinbad was a good guy from the get-go and turned bad because of David's influence. Aladdin also said he isn't evil. His end goal is good, it's just that his methods are shady. And in this case, the ends don't justify the means. But again, it's mainly because of David's influence. The real villain is David. And Ill-Ilah.

Randrak42 · 2016-08-20, 21:45

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Originally Posted by DragonOsman

@Randrak: Sinbad was a good guy from the get-go and turned bad because of David's influence. Aladdin also said he isn't evil. His end goal is good, it's just that his methods are shady. And in this case, the ends don't justify the means. But again, it's mainly because of David's influence. The real villain is David. And Ill-Ilah.

Oh sure, but I still don't like him xD

I'm sure he'll be the antagonist because I'm convinced David will take over his body soon. Sinbad himself isn't evil or good, just neutral...but welp, he does have that David in him so there's that.

Fwarlord · 2016-08-21, 08:29

David himself also isn't that bad either. His goal is to create a heaven on earth for everyone.

DragonOsman · 2016-08-21, 08:31

Yeah, but the ends don't justify the means in his case. He's portrayed as the main villain for a reason (and yes: no matter how you cut it, he actually is portrayed as the main villain along with Ill-Ilah).

LevelSeven · 2016-08-21, 11:34

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Originally Posted by Fwarlord

David himself also isn't that bad either. His goal is to create a heaven on earth for everyone.

madara wanted to do this too but i guess it would be boring if everyone understood each other and suddenly worked towards the same goal (which is actually the only way i can imagine that the "heaven on earth" thingy would work

)...

DragonOsman · 2016-08-21, 11:53

Yeah, exactly. That too. And the solution Madara came up with was something I really didn't like "Put everyone into an eternal illusion with peace in it when, in reality, everyone would just be asleep". Basically, "Infinite Tsukuyomi", activated by casting a large-scale Tsukuyomi on the moon to make his eyes be reflected on the moon's surface.

But again, I hated that idea and so I supported Naruto. And I'm glad he won the fight between himself and Madara and Kaguya.

Anyway, yeah, David is still portrayed as a villain in a similar way to Madara in the Naruto manga. That's why he has to lose and hopefully either come to an understanding and come to his side or be neutral or die.

Fwarlord · 2016-08-21, 12:05

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Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Yeah, exactly. That too. And the solution Madara came up with was something I really didn't like "Put everyone into an eternal illusion with peace in it when, in reality, everyone would just be asleep". Basically, "Infinite Tsukuyomi", activated by casting a large-scale Tsukuyomi on the moon to make his eyes be reflected on the moon's surface.

But again, I hated that idea and so I supported Naruto. And I'm glad he won the fight between himself and Madara and Kaguya.

Anyway, yeah, David is still portrayed as a villain in a similar way to Madara in the Naruto manga. That's why he has to lose and hopefully either come to an understanding and come to his side or be neutral or die.

If the only thing you care is the portrayal by the author, it could be changed very easily. Look at all the chapters before the latest one, they all portrays Sinbad as someone shady and cannot be truth, but the author managed to make him sympathetic right away. So who say she won't do the same to David? You should come up with your own opinion instead letting your feeling lead by the author.

DragonOsman · 2016-08-21, 12:31

Um, Sinbad was a good guy for most of the series (including Sinbad no Bouken) while David was portrayed as a villain for most of the series. And again, the ends don't always justify the means. Sinbad was only being bad because of David's influence, anyway, while David's methods were always too shady. Sinbad's methods for Sindria's sake were only shady because he believed that as long as Sindria prospered, how it was done didn't matter.

Sinbad and David both use shady means to try to reach peace, but David, and by extension Sinbad while he was under David's influence, did it on the scale of the whole world while Sinbad by himself did it only for Sindria directly while doing more agreeable things when it came to world peace. Both are necessary evils, but I'd rather choose Sinbad without David's influence any day.

LevelSeven · 2016-08-29, 09:52

ch 318

kougyoku OWNED EVERYONE

i guess i have nothing more to say

Kanon · 2016-08-29, 14:48

Kougyoku is such an angel. Best girl.

Homura7 · 2016-08-29, 15:27

The look in Sinbad's face: priceless. And to add more salt to the wound two of his allies joined Kogyoku.

DragonOsman · 2016-08-29, 16:01

I'm happy for Kougyoku. This is good. I wonder if non-member states can be friends with Seven Seas Alliance? Maybe the Kou Empire can continue friendly relations with Sinbad and the Alliance even now. If Kougyoku's already forgiven him, she might not mind that. But a small part of me is suspicious that she may not have completely forgiven him yet. Either way, though, it's good that Kou will give up on creating more wars and will change and manage itself on its own.

XFire · 2016-08-31, 00:13

That moment when the girl who existed only to get jerked around by the big boys effortlessly pwns the whole damn world through nothing but some good ol fashioned character development.

Twi · 2016-09-12, 10:28

Sinbad's ugly side has appeared. He has control issues.

DragoMuseveni · 2016-09-12, 11:12

Spoiler for spoiler:

DragonOsman · 2016-09-12, 15:13

^

Spoiler for reply to above:

2016-08-19, 13:10	Link #5622
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	Oh, come on. It seems like he could stop being an antagonist, so it's actually good. IMO at least. __________________

2016-08-19, 17:24	Link #5624
ninjastarforcex Read My Sig :) Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Read My Sig :)	like any shonen manga, it's getting real boring after timeskip zZz i like battle shonen adventure manga, not political shit like this __________________ ~Anime Songs Chord~ latest update 1 September 2016

2016-08-20, 16:29	Link #5625
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	@Randrak: Sinbad was a good guy from the get-go and turned bad because of David's influence. Aladdin also said he isn't evil. His end goal is good, it's just that his methods are shady. And in this case, the ends don't justify the means. But again, it's mainly because of David's influence. The real villain is David. And Ill-Ilah. __________________

2016-08-21, 08:29	Link #5627
Fwarlord Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013	David himself also isn't that bad either. His goal is to create a heaven on earth for everyone. __________________ Lovers for Eternity

2016-08-21, 08:31	Link #5628
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	Yeah, but the ends don't justify the means in his case. He's portrayed as the main villain for a reason (and yes: no matter how you cut it, he actually is portrayed as the main villain along with Ill-Ilah). __________________

2016-08-19, 10:29	Link #5621
Randrak42 ANEGO Worshiper Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	A Sinbad focused chapter? stops caring

2016-08-19, 17:01	Link #5623
Randrak42 ANEGO Worshiper Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	Eh....I just never liked Sinbad in the first place. Not gonna start now even if he stops being an antagonist (which I'm sure wont happen).

2016-08-21, 11:53	Link #5630
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	Yeah, exactly. That too. And the solution Madara came up with was something I really didn't like "Put everyone into an eternal illusion with peace in it when, in reality, everyone would just be asleep". Basically, "Infinite Tsukuyomi", activated by casting a large-scale Tsukuyomi on the moon to make his eyes be reflected on the moon's surface. But again, I hated that idea and so I supported Naruto. And I'm glad he won the fight between himself and Madara and Kaguya. Anyway, yeah, David is still portrayed as a villain in a similar way to Madara in the Naruto manga. That's why he has to lose and hopefully either come to an understanding and come to his side or be neutral or die. __________________

2016-08-21, 12:31	Link #5632
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	Um, Sinbad was a good guy for most of the series (including Sinbad no Bouken) while David was portrayed as a villain for most of the series. And again, the ends don't always justify the means. Sinbad was only being bad because of David's influence, anyway, while David's methods were always too shady. Sinbad's methods for Sindria's sake were only shady because he believed that as long as Sindria prospered, how it was done didn't matter. Sinbad and David both use shady means to try to reach peace, but David, and by extension Sinbad while he was under David's influence, did it on the scale of the whole world while Sinbad by himself did it only for Sindria directly while doing more agreeable things when it came to world peace. Both are necessary evils, but I'd rather choose Sinbad without David's influence any day. __________________

2016-08-29, 09:52	Link #5633
LevelSeven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Germany	ch 318 kougyoku OWNED EVERYONE i guess i have nothing more to say

2016-08-29, 14:48	Link #5634
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Kougyoku is such an angel. Best girl. __________________

2016-08-29, 15:27	Link #5635
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	The look in Sinbad's face: priceless. And to add more salt to the wound two of his allies joined Kogyoku.

2016-08-29, 16:01	Link #5636
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	I'm happy for Kougyoku. This is good. I wonder if non-member states can be friends with Seven Seas Alliance? Maybe the Kou Empire can continue friendly relations with Sinbad and the Alliance even now. If Kougyoku's already forgiven him, she might not mind that. But a small part of me is suspicious that she may not have completely forgiven him yet. Either way, though, it's good that Kou will give up on creating more wars and will change and manage itself on its own. __________________

2016-08-31, 00:13	Link #5637
XFire 150% done Join Date: Feb 2012	That moment when the girl who existed only to get jerked around by the big boys effortlessly pwns the whole damn world through nothing but some good ol fashioned character development. __________________

2016-09-12, 10:28	Link #5638
Twi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Sinbad's ugly side has appeared. He has control issues. __________________

2016-09-12, 11:12	Link #5639
DragoMuseveni True Dragon Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Riding on Great Red head Age: 28	Spoiler for spoiler: I get the feeling that Sindbad was betrayed by David . David got tired of his wishy washy feelings and got to work... __________________

2016-09-12, 15:13	Link #5640
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	^ Spoiler for reply to above: Yeah, that's what I think from reading the spoilers, too. Hopefully he can wake up and realize that he should be on Aladdin's side here. __________________ Last edited by DragonOsman; 2016-09-12 at 15:41.