2008-10-26, 21:02 | Link #2021 |
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Sharingan i think has a better ability than byakugan
Copy opponent>seeing their chakra network But i mean some moves u cant copy and so normal sharingan would be noob...thats y u need mangekyo.
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2008-10-27, 05:36 | Link #2022 | |
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Two tomoe will also allow the ninja to pierce Genjutsu and see the surrounding reality for what it really is. Three tomoe also grants the Uchiha the ability to do Genjutsu and hypnosis after locking eyes with an enemy. This can be used to cause their opponent to do an attack of the Uchiha's choosing. This hypnosis can also be used as a Genjutsu counter, which is the ability to turn a Genjutsu spell back upon the original caster without the requirement of forming any handseals. ~ Entry from Leafninja The sharingan users are masters of genjutsu and this is shown by Sasuke and Itachi prime examples of the Uchiha clans power also Amaterasu and Tsuyokomi are perfect for the Uchiha because it embodies what they are known for: 'Genjutsu' and 'Fire jutsu'. Also seeing how Itachi could create a genjutsu from someone looking at his finger it may have been a technique passed down in the Uchiha clan.
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2008-10-27, 12:08 | Link #2023 |
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Byakugan all the way. the advantages of being able to see through things (clothing) far outweighs any advantage the sharingan has to offer for me. And I don't get into much fights either so the sharingan's ability to see through jutsus will not have beneficial for me.
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2008-10-27, 15:17 | Link #2024 | |
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The Kurama clan is a clan of extremely skilled genjutsu users, introduced in the anime. This talent in genjutsu is due to the unnamed kekkei genkai that the clan possesses. However, once every few generations, a member of the clan will be born with such enormous skill in genjutsu that their illusions can actually produce tangible effects that occur in reality. The clan member's talent in the field is such that their genjutsu is completely irresistible, so much so that only knocking a person unconscious has any chance of awakening them from it. Furthermore, the genjutsu is so powerful that it causes the brain to make anything that happens to the victim within the genjutsu physically real, allowing the clan member to potentially kill their opponents with genjutsu. ~ Naruto Wikia Spoiler for manga:
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In contrast, the Kurama clan members don't have to have an opponent look at anything to cast them in a genjutsu. The Kurama genjutsu is second to Uchiha genjutsu only in terms of time manipulation. Advanced Uchiha can use Tsukuyomi to make a second seem like 72 hours once eye contact is made. That's the only advantage. Advanced Kurama can make genjutsu tangible and therefore real without eye contact or any contact for that matter. Uchiha tsukuyomi is more efficient for interrogation because it happens so quickly. Kurama bloodline is more devastating because it can catch multiple opponents in a single genjutsu and torture or kill them all in the physical world. It basically lets the user's will become and control physical reality. No comparison really. Last edited by Hunter; 2008-10-27 at 20:36. |
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2008-10-27, 16:25 | Link #2025 | |
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You could even hypnotise the whole girls swimming team to think your room is the girls locker room...top that one Byakugan! |
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2008-10-27, 16:26 | Link #2026 | |
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2008-10-27, 17:28 | Link #2027 |
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Well may be its just the creative streak in me, coming up up with all those ideas is half the fun!! Not denying theres anything wrong with a good look, but just imagine all the cosplay scenarios one could have etc. The only limit to the fun would be the amount chakra you have.
Anyways, Killer_Bee and Cub-Sama both bring up good points, though Im not too familiar with the Kurama clan, are they in the manga? or only the anime fillers? Also with the whole firearms analogy, maybe with the Uchia/Sharingan users perhaps one wouldnt want to call them master of Genjutsu (firearms) but at least masters of Genjutsu using the sense of sight (i.e. specifically rifles). Also one could also claim them to be masters of counter-Genjutsu, id say its pretty hard to pull a genjutsu over a shaingan user - as the tome in normal sharingan form is designed to see their world for what it really is. |
2008-10-27, 18:16 | Link #2029 | |
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2. Filler kekkei genkais don't compare to manga facts, none of the databooks say anything on them as far as I know: Spoiler for manga:
3. You are confusing the term 'masters' with 'the best' I could be a master at playing Halo because I mastered using the weapons and terrain, doesn't mean I am the absolute best. I am saying that the Uchiha are masters because they are high level genjutsu users, you said before Kurenai was a master of genjutsu yet only using a sharingan jutsu that took no effort on Itachi's part he turned the tides of the genjutsu. Like Itachi was 8 when he mastered the sharingan meaning he learnt how to use all the aspects of it, if someone is better at him than using it doesn't mean he is no longer a master of the sharingan. If I am wrong correct me 4. Utakata is a Genjutsu technique utilized by Akatsuki member Uchiha Itachi. Itachi will start this technique by using only one finger on his right hand. His target does not have to look into his eyes, a glance at the hand itself will be enough. Once inside the illusion, he can control the visions the ninja sees. This illusion can also be used to play on the fears of the target, causing them to see and hear those who they care about degrade them. ~ Entry from Leafninja The finger thing is a genjutsu, it is not hypnotism into changing their focus to make them look into their eyes, I do not know for sure but it might just be the case of creating a stream of chakra from the finger to the eyes invading the body creating a genjutsu.
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2008-10-28, 13:53 | Link #2030 |
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I'm slow in replying because every time that I do, I get an infraction and I just got told I would be banned next time. I'm not exposing things on purpose or maliciously. I just get into these debates and have ZERO experience with having to watch what I write on the net.
I've never had to use a "spoiler" button and wasn't even aware of it until the other day(first infraction). So after getting a better understanding of what exactly I did wrong, I guess its only safe for guys like me to post on manga topics. Either that or brush up on my proof reading skills. I do sincerely apologize though. |
2008-11-02, 12:29 | Link #2031 |
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I honestly don`t think Byukugan and Sharingan can better one another.
I believe that it counts on the person that has it. Not the actual blood line limit. Example : Madara has the most advanced sharigan, right? (Please correct me if wrong) He is what? Around 90 years old? (Again, please correct me if I am wrong :P) The one hyuuga that is most advanced in Byukugan is Neji. He is what? 16? Also, Sasuke went under Oroochimaru`s training, and has curse mark. That must help him with his sharigan training, right? Neji only got Guy... and Guy is mostly focused on Lee, (lol). In the end, I believe it comes down to the person, and his methods of training. Not necessarily the kekkei genkai. ( Mmm, *does not like arguing, but must put my point in* ) |
2008-11-04, 03:31 | Link #2033 |
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Speaking of Sharingan versus Byakugan, I don't know about you guys but I felt a little betrayed when the supposed Neji versus Sasuke duel in the Chuunin exams didn't happen. Kishimoto gave us quite a tease when he wrote that "confrontation" scene between the two characters. Sasuke was genuinely intrigued with three rookie ninjas, Gaara, Lee and Neji but he only managed to fight Gaara and Lee. I personally want to see that happen some time soon just to prove which bloodline limit is better. Forget Sasuke and Naruto, I want to see a Neji and Sasuke fight.
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2008-11-06, 17:45 | Link #2034 | |
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2008-11-07, 04:16 | Link #2035 | |
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2008-11-07, 15:46 | Link #2038 | |
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2008-11-07, 19:30 | Link #2040 |
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neji's uncle never said neji was better than him he was just surprised at how neji was able to use moves from the main branch. im pretty sure his uncle knows more techniques than neji does. the magna has specifically shown neji bieng trained by his uncle. Also im pretty sure that if neji was stronger than his uncle he wouldnt do the training
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