2007-01-27, 07:46 | Link #1 |
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[Manga] Why Kage Bunshin is Banned
Even though we have not seen its harmful effects, Kage Bunshin, let's not forget, was on the forbidden list of moves. I think that it was forbidden because using the move too much probably does something to your body. I mean, KB is like the ultimate training move. I could do 1000 push ups in less than 15 mins or run 100 miles in less than half an hour. There has to be some side effect to using Kage Bunshin too much. What do you think?
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2007-01-27, 08:19 | Link #2 |
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Before more posts are made lets watch not to accidentally spoil something for someone!
I think it is a forbidden move because of the amount of chakra it can take because you're basically cloning yourself. It's bound to have an effect on your chakra pool and you could overdo it by chance by causing one to many clones to have an effect on your internal chakra system. Maybe that's why we only see a few Ninja perfoming this move whom have quite a considerable large chakra pool like Naruto, Kakashi[in the Wave Country arc he created ALOT], and we know Itachi can use this move also. |
2007-01-27, 08:24 | Link #3 |
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How many times must it be said? Kage Bunshin is NOT banned. It's a standard Jounin technique used for information gathering and reconaisance. Tajuu Kage Bunshin is the one that was banned. The reason Naruto learned Kage Bunshin was because he was learning Tajuu Kage Bunshin from the scroll and Kage Bunshin, being a prerequisite fo Tajuu Kage Bunshin, was explained in there as well.
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2007-01-27, 11:57 | Link #6 |
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It's as rob the fox said... "Kage Bushin" is not the jutsu on the forbidden scroll, the jutsu on the scroll is "TAJUU Kage Bushin". Kage Bushin allows you to create solid clones and gives you control over how many you make... however, Tajuu kage Bushin forces the user to make 1000 clones no more, no less
Since the chakra is evenly distributed over the clones, 1000 clones is generally too much for most ninjas "TAJUU Kage Bushin" can be very dangerous, hence why it is forbidden... "Kage Bushin" though, allows the user to control how many and thus can make sure they don't make more they can handle |
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2007-01-30, 08:01 | Link #8 |
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Is this official now? I did suspect 1000 (despite Naruto's weird wording during the Gaara fight) was the upper limit of tajuu, but I didn't think that it had to be exactly 1000. If so, I'm sure the anime screwed up a ton of times.
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2007-01-30, 09:14 | Link #10 | |
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You don't make any physical gains from KB training, only the experience of doing a certain task. Therefore it's only useful for learning jutsu not gaining strength, speed, etc. |
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2007-01-30, 09:53 | Link #11 |
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Since the original post seems to refer to new information about Kage Bunshin I prefered to add [Manga] tag to the title instead of banning people making reference about it but please be more careful. Next time you may face a 3 days ban.
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2007-01-30, 12:37 | Link #13 |
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-If by "physical" you mean physical attack patterns or movements then I think it is possible. But think about it, would it make any sense for Naruto to create 100 clones, have them do push ups sit-ups and then all of a sudden gain pure muscle abs and muscular arms after he dispells them?
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2007-01-30, 23:44 | Link #16 |
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It's not forbidden (as in, you won't be executed or excommunicated for using it) but it's not taught to inexperienced ninjas because it's not a very practical jutsu for anyone but Naruto to use.
You're just sacrificing waaaay too much of your chakra to use it. If you make three clones, you're down to 25% of your power -- and if they get KO'ed, you're still down to 25% of your power in a fight. This doesn't matter to Naruto, because even one-fiftieth of his strength is more than most shinobi can ever hope to obtain, but for someone like Shikamaru it's almost suicide to use. |
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