Kimi no Iru Machi (A Town Where You Live)

[2H-Dragon]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

The problem is that he kept his friends and his girlfriend in the dark until the last minute. Just like when he decided to move to Tokyo, he never once thought about talking to them before making his decision. Takashi called him out on it back then. Since they never know anything until it already happens, they have to take in everything at once. Does Haruto really care about his friends?

He didn't properly know his own feelings till the end either. He just wanted to break up swift and cleanly. Does it really matter if he took the few minutes to call them up to break up? Honestly do people need updates every minute of my current mental state? That's a pretty restrictive friendship. He cares for his friends, but who he dates is his own business. Just so you know with the average friendships break ups tend to be told after it happens. When people talk to their mates about breaking up before they do it, it's because they need someone to confide in. Not to give their friends a heads up. In this case Haruto already confided in Rin.

Originally Posted by Tenchi Hou Take

He was with the girl for two years. He should have at least had the decency to show her some respect and lay everything out for her. He just wanted to get out of it as quickly as possible and bang Eba. At no point did he even consider her feelings in all of this.

I wouldn't have minded if this was some short fling but a two year releationship with a girl whose been as loyal and trusting to you, to such a degree isn't someone you just ditch and move on without a second thought for her during the entire thing.

And how would that help? He knew perfectly well what his feelings where. Thus prompted to break up. How would dragging shit out help the problem. He apologized and explained why he broke up? Again what are you expecting. Break ups aren't nice period. You guys seem to hold break ups in some high standard. In my experience quick and swift break ups are for the best.

[Emulator]

Originally Posted by Tenchi Hou Take

He was with the girl for two years. He should have at least had the decency to show her some respect and lay everything out for her. He just wanted to get out of it as quickly as possible and bang Eba. At no point did he even consider her feelings in all of this.

I wouldn't have minded if this was some short fling but a two year releationship with a girl whose been as loyal and trusting to you, to such a degree isn't someone you just ditch and move on without a second thought for her during the entire thing.

Plus like pointed above, his friends importance to him is questionable at best.

Yeah sure. /sarcasm
His friends were the ones that judged him without knowing anything and threatend him with throwing away their friendship just because he broke up with a girl he doesn´t love if he doesn´t go back to her.

Originally Posted by 2H-Dragon

He didn't properly know his own feelings till the end either. He just wanted to break up swift and cleanly. Does it really matter if he took the few minutes to call them up to break up? Honestly do people need updates every minute of my current mental state? That's a pretty restrictive friendship. He cares for his friends with who he dates is his own business. Just so you know with the average friendships break ups tend to be told after it happens. When people talk to their mates about breaking up before they do it, it's because they need someone to confide in. Not to give their friends a heads up. In this case Haruto already confided in Rin.

I agree with you.
The thing is that it´s his own business if he wants to break up. That´s none of their business and they have absolutely no right to threat him with throwing away their frienship becaus of such an absurd thing.

[Sinestra]

Although im glad he did it so the hurt wouldn't continue. I think Tenchi Hou Take has a point and that point is respect. If this was a two week relationship i would hardly given it enough thought to post on it but this was not some fling this was a 2 year relationship.

Now one can argue and that Asuka ran out before he could say anything else. However, screw that if you are a man you go after and you explain even if she slaps you take it because you are the one that hurt her. After you explain if she runs away or spits in your face then so be it but at least you had the decency to explain the situation.

Some readers are satisfied with the "i like another girl please break up with me" im sorry im not after 2 years he owes Asuka more of an explanation than that. I wasnt really going to touch on it but since it was bought up this line bothered the shit out me.

Spoiler for chap 141:

He doesn't even try he gives up he has resided himself to the fact that there is nothing he can say too her. Granted shes not home but honestly he could try to give it one more shot to explain he never set out to hurt her that he realized he still had feelings for Yuzuki later on. At least try its exactly like with his friends open your mouth and tell them "why" you have made these choices its not hard to do if you have the absolute resolution to do so and you have no regrets about your decisions.

he doesnt have to tell his friends everything but there is a lot of misunderstandings going on right now because of lack of communication. oh well such is life i dont think Haruto is a bad guy despite me being hard on him. Im hard of him because hes a nice guy.

[2H-Dragon]

Originally Posted by Sinestra

Some readers are satisfied with the "i like another girl please break up with me" im sorry im not after 2 years he owes Asuka more of an explanation than that. I wasnt really going to touch on it but since it was bought up this line bothered the shit out me.

So what is he supposed to explain? Are you assuming that Asuka is born stupid and didn't know what was going on?

Originally Posted by Sinestra

he doesnt have to tell his friends everything but there is a lot of misunderstandings going on right now because of lack of communication. oh well such is life i dont think Haruto is a bad guy despite me being hard on him. Im hard of him because hes a nice guy.

What's he supposed to explain? He's in love with his ex. They understand that. Here they are acting like it's grave sin to fall back in love with their ex.

[Emulator]

Originally Posted by Sinestra

Although im glad he did it so the hurt wouldn't continue. I think Tenchi Hou Take has a point and that point is respect. If this was a two week relationship i would hardly given it enough thought to post on it but this was not some fling this was a 2 year relationship.

Now one can argue and that Asuka ran out before he could say anything else. However, screw that if you are a man you go after and you explain even if she slaps you take it because you are the one that hurt her. After you explain if she runs away or spits in your face then so be it but at least you had the decency to explain the situation.

Some readers are satisfied with the "i like another girl please break up with me" im sorry im not after 2 years he owes Asuka more of an explanation than that. I wasnt really going to touch on it but since it was bought up this line bothered the shit out me.

Spoiler for chap 141:

He doesn't even try he gives up he has resided himself to the fact that there is nothing he can say too her. Granted shes not home but honestly he could try to give it one more shot to explain he never set out to hurt her that he realized he still had feelings for Yuzuki later on. At least try its exactly like with his friends open your mouth and tell them "why" you have made these choices its not hard to do if you have the absolute resolution to do so and you have no regrets about your decisions.

Not really. If my so called friends that know me for over 10 years can judge me before knowing the whole picture an are threatening me, it just demonstrates how little our friendship means to them. If they want to throw away our friendship because of such an absurd thing, i would not want to be friends with them either.

[2H-Dragon]

Originally Posted by Emulator

Not really. If my so called friends that know me for over 10 years can judge me before knowing the whole picture an are threatening me, it just demonstrates how llittle our frindship means to them. If they want to throw away our friendship because of such an absurd thing, i would not want to be friends with them either.

Yeah, here Haruto is getting flack what I myself and many others would do in the same situation. Here we have "friends" that threaten their own friend about something that isn't their business in the first place, but they are the ones acting rationally?

[Sinestra]

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So what is he supposed to explain? Are you assuming that Asuka is born stupid and didn't know what was going on?

We actually dont know what Asuka knows. All she knows is the guy shes been with for 2 years broke up with her for another girl end of story. She used the word trust when telling Kiyomi about the situation she trusted him. She could think that Haruto was fooling around behind her back for months. She could think that Haruto just used her to get over Yuzuki till she came back in his life. When you leave a big gaping hole its very easy for people to fill in what they think is the right answer. Given Haruto stellar record for telling the truth why shouldn't she assume the worst.

What's he supposed to explain? He's in love with his ex. They understand that.[

Its not black and white if it was it wouldn't be an issue. They know he loves Yuzuki, what they dont understand is how Haruto came to make this difficult decision. Remember Haruto has been saying for 2 years now that he does not love Yuzuki anymore then all of sudden he breaks up with Asuka and gets back with her.

[HayashiTakara]

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Originally Posted by Sinestra

Of course im justifying because the characters are feeling they are justified in doing so. Therefore i addressed it you skipped an entire paragraph where i spoke about how i did not agree with their actions and focused on one point. Im not so blind as im only going to accept one half of the truth. Even if you think they are wrong you are not them "they feel justified" in what they are doing. That doesn't make me agree with it nor does it make them right. Im simply stating I can understand why they feel this way and why they made these decisions. I dont have to agree with a person to understand why they made a particular choice.


"You stated there is nothing wrong with Eba she is a good girl" I took that as you liked her as a Character. I dont like her i never have i dont like the way she acts again my prerogative.



Im just stating what i have heard from co-workers and friends i happen to work near and with many Japanese who work in the states for a number of years at National Institute of Health. That is what they have explained to me after hearing the about the situation and my g/f pretty much thought it was disgusting she is Japanese as well. You comment on maturity when neither of these two have shown an ounce of it. Haruto did finally make a choice he did make a hard decision and i commend him for that. But its a lot harder to make a decision than to see it through to the end. Takashi has never done anything remotely to make people distance himself he may play around a lot but he has not done anything directly to his friends. Even though i do find him very VERY annoying.




It didn't really matter what form i said it in but basically "you gotta do what you gotta do" the concept is still the same. Why should Haruto be forced to stay with Asuka? he shouldnt its not right, same thing with this If Akari and Takashi honestly feel they can not remain friends with Haruto. Well.... that sucks but i would rather them end the friendship than to be fake and pretend.


They feel they are justified to make such a decision. Again i dont agree with it but if they feel this strongly about ending a long term friendship dont you think why they feel this strongly should be addressed?


No need to twitch thats life dude and iv learned it the hard way over the course of 32 years. When a person feels they are justified in their actions there is not much they wont do to achieve what they want that justification can become life for some people. Again, never said i agreed with her methods just that"she" felt justified in what she was doing. Everyone does it no matter how old you are no matter where you live. When you feel that strongly about something and justify it in your head its nearly impossible to get it out its a part of you and you react on it.



We can agree to disagree however i will not condemn them for their decision until i hear the reason why just like i didnt condemn Haruto final action of breaking up with Asuka. You do what you feel is right even if its a bit selfish that human nature. I understand both parties point of view however even though i understand i still think almost all of them are fools who dont think things through before they make choices. But thats what you do at their age.

I do see where you're coming from, we both agree that the choice the friends made wasn't exactly the best choice. But you decide to go with the "wait and see" before condemning them for their decision, while I like some of the others are upset at the fact that they seem to take their friendship lightly.

Originally Posted by 2H-Dragon

He didn't properly know his own feelings till the end either. He just wanted to break up swift and cleanly. Does it really matter if he took the few minutes to call them up to break up? Honestly do people need updates every minute of my current mental state? That's a pretty restrictive friendship. He cares for his friends, but who he dates is his own business. Just so you know with the average friendships break ups tend to be told after it happens. When people talk to their mates about breaking up before they do it, it's because they need someone to confide in. Not to give their friends a heads up. In this case Haruto already confided in Rin.


And how would that help? He knew perfectly well what his feelings where. Thus prompted to break up. How would dragging shit out help the problem. He apologized and explained why he broke up? Again what are you expecting. Break ups aren't nice period. You guys seem to hold break ups in some high standard. In my experience quick and swift break ups are for the best.

I agree, wise words are spoken.

I do believe that there really isn't more Haruto can say to lessen the impact, it was straight and concise. "I like someone else." What else is there to say? Play some Barry Manalowe and go with the whole "Baby it ain't you, it's me." line?

She's gonna be hurt no matter what.


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We actually dont know what Asuka knows. All she knows is the guy shes been with for 2 years broke up with her for another girl end of story. She used the word trust when telling Kiyomi about the situation she trusted him. She could think that Haruto was fooling around behind her back for months. She could think that Haruto just used her to get over Yuzuki till she came back in his life. When you leave a big gaping hole its very easy for people to fill in what they think is the right answer. Given Haruto stellar record for telling the truth why shouldn't she assume the worst.



Its not black and white if it was it wouldn't be an issue. They know he loves Yuzuki, what they dont understand is how Haruto came to make this difficult decision. Remember Haruto has been saying for 2 years now that he does not love Yuzuki anymore then all of sudden he breaks up with Asuka and gets back with her.

As far as I know, he's only sorta mentioned it once, 2 years ago. It's not like they were hounding his feelings for the last 2 years.

[2H-Dragon]

Originally Posted by Sinestra

We actually dont know what Asuka knows. All she knows is the guy shes been with for 2 years broke up with her for another girl end of story. She used the word trust when telling Kiyomi about the situation she trusted him. She could think that Haruto was fooling around behind her back for months. She could think that Haruto just used her to get over Yuzuki till she came back in his life. When you leave a big gaping hole its very easy for people to fill in what they think is the right answer. Given Haruto stellar record for telling the truth why shouldn't she assume the worst.

If she wants to assume the worst honestly that's her problem. I'm not going to run after a girl that clearly needs her space. She knows enough to graps the situation. When she's ready I can always give the long explanation later.

Originally Posted by Sinestra

Its not black and white if it was it wouldn't be an issue. They know he loves Yuzuki, what they dont understand is how Haruto came to make this difficult decision. Remember Haruto has been saying for 2 years now that he does not love Yuzuki anymore then all of sudden he breaks up with Asuka and gets back with her.

So give him a chance to explain his feelings, instead of threatening him? If my friend went through something like that. The first thing I'd ask why'd you do that? Instead of being all judgmental. edit: He did explain why he broke up and how he felt and they still acted out. :O

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

Play some Barry Manalowe and go with the whole "Baby it ain't you, it's me." line?

Truth be told if any of my ex's broke up with me like that. I would feel better.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by 2H-Dragon

He didn't properly know his own feelings till the end either. He just wanted to break up swift and cleanly. Does it really matter if he took the few minutes to call them up to break up? Honestly do people need updates every minute of my current mental state? That's a pretty restrictive friendship. He cares for his friends with who he dates is his own business. Just so you know with the average friendships break ups tend to be told after it happens. When people talk to their mates about breaking up before they do it, it's because they need someone to confide in. Not to give their friends a heads up. In this case Haruto already confided in Rin.

Haruto's friends are also to be his confidant. He doesn't tell them squat. There's are differences between telling your friends everything, something, and nothing. Haruto told them nothing. Takashi and Akari aren't supposed to be casual friends you normally have in real life either. They're supposed to be platonic friends that have been there for him nearly all his life. They way he treats them, it doesn't seem like he's that close to them.

He also never went to Rin. Rin took the initiative and pried the info out of Haruto.

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by 2H-Dragon

If she wants to assume the worst honestly that's her problem. I'm not going to run after a girl that clearly needs her space. If she's ready I can always give the long explanation later.


So give him a chance to explain his feelings, instead of threatening him? If my friend went through something like that. The first thing I'd ask why'd you do that? Instead of being all judgmental.

I agree with you on both counts my problem is with Haruto's mentality that line pissed me off because he didnt even consider another choice. Residing yourself to the fact that you can do nothing means you are not even going to try. She needs her space alright not like shes really going to get it she lives next door and they go to the same school. I can understand the guy thinks there is nothing else he can do. I just feel that a 2 year long relationship deserves more than a few words. But your point is well taken.

I dont agree with his friends take on it at all with the exception of Kiyomi because there is no other way she could have taken it.

Like i stated before i dont agree with their actions but i understand them. The question is this. if these 2 are willing to throw away a 10 year long friendship why do they feel so strong about this that they cant be friends with him whats the reason? we dont know that and until we do ill stay in devil advocate corner.

Now Seo could be playing this card to give Yuzuki and Haruto plenty of alone time to develop their relationship with the hindrance of the side characters. Which would work because its obvious that they have taken Asuka's side in this. Its hard with two of your closest friends break up to still hang out, it can get awkward.

I want to see Rin's reaction when she finds out all of Haruto's friends ditched him. Im sure her words will be quite amusing

[Emulator]

Originally Posted by Sinestra

I agree with you on both counts my problem is with Haruto's mentality that line pissed me off because he didnt even consider another choice. Residing yourself to the fact that you can do nothing means you are not even going to try. She needs her space alright not like shes really going to get it she lives next door and they go to the same school. I can understand the guy thinks there is nothing else he can do. I just feel that a 2 year long relationship deserves more than a few words. But your point is well taken.

I dont agree with his friends take on it at all with the exception of Kiyomi because there is no other way she could have taken it.

Like i stated before i dont agree with their actions but i understand them. The question is this. if these 2 are willing to throw away a 10 year long friendship why do they feel so strong about this that they cant be friends with him whats the reason? we dont know that and until we do ill stay in devil advocate corner.

Now Seo could be playing this card to give Yuzuki and Haruto plenty of alone time to develop their relationship with the hindrance of the side characters. Which would work because its obvious that they have taken Asuka's side in this. Its hard with two of your closest friends break up to still hang out, it can get awkward.

I want to see Rin's reaction when she finds out all of Haruto's friends ditched him. Im sure her words will be quite amusing

It´s not like they were ever hanging out with Asuka. The only ones that are hanging out together are Nanami, Kiyomi and Akari. Sometimes they are with Haruto and Takashi but never with Asuka. The only thing Asuka did after training or college is getting home, eating Harutos cooking, sleeping or reading manga.
They also call Asuka only with Mishima-san. Good luck with practice, Mishima-san.

Spoiler for Chapter 140 page 5:

compared how they call Yuzuki with Yuzuki-chan and Rin with Rin-chan.

Spoiler for Chapter 140 page 4:

[HayashiTakara]

Like I've said before, Asuka is just an friend through association. The only reason why she's even around the others is because of Haruto. She's practically a stranger.

[cloak_and_dagger]

^ Which makes Takashi's reaction more peculiar to me.

[Key Board]

It's pretty clear to me

He's doing that to score approval points from Kiyomi

[Emulator]

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

Like I've said before, Asuka is just an friend through association. The only reason why she's even around the others is because of Haruto. She's practically a stranger.

That´s what i´m saying. She is the girlfriend of their friend and they not only don´t hang out with her, they only "know" her for a couple of days on their trip to Hiroshima and since college started and that is maybe for 4 months. Except for Kiyomi. She knows her far longer. And that was the reason why only Kiyomi was there and not his so called friends. Asuka was only talking with Kiyomi and we know that Kiyomi was always jealous of Yuzuki because Kazama loved Yuzuki and she hated her for that. Who knows exactly what Kiyomi told the others and how much she exaggerated. And Takashi seems to be Kiyomis slave.
We haven´t seen Akari either. It was only Takashi that said that Akari thinks the same.

[cloak_and_dagger]

Originally Posted by Key Board

It's pretty clear to me

He's doing that to score approval points from Kiyomi

Sheiiitttt! Ahhhh i should've seen it. I digress, do your thing Takashi! Hop on that bandwagon to take a swipe at that fine specimen! I'd do it too!

[xeon921]

Originally Posted by Emulator

That´s what i´m saying. She is the girlfriend of their friend and they not only don´t hang out with her, they only "know" her for a couple of days on their trip to Hiroshima and since college started and that is maybe for 4 months. Except for Kiyomi. She knows her far longer. And that was the reason why only Kiyomi was there and not his so called friends. Asuka was only talking with Kiyomi and we know that Kiyomi was always jealous of Yuzuki because Kazama loved Yuzuki and she hated her for that. Who knows exactly what Kiyomi told the others and how much she exaggerated. And Takashi seems to be Kiyomis slave.
We haven´t seen Akari either. It was only Takashi that said that Akari thinks the same.

I'm thinking Kiyomi probably exaggerated from what was posted by Sinestra and yourself that it was a polite way to break up. Takashi seems to think that he broke up with her in a not so poilte and ugly way... who knows though.

[Bonta Kun]

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

Like I've said before, Asuka is just an friend through association. The only reason why she's even around the others is because of Haruto. She's practically a stranger.

Which is the weirdest thing about this series, considering how easily Akari and Takashi make friends with people and how they are best friends with Haruto, you'd think they would be good friends with Asuka as well.
Yet Seo doesn't do that, instead he has the gang back to being friends with Haruto's ex that dumped him for another guy.

I think Seo is just doing this to get melodrama out of the situation.

After hearing what Takashi said Haruto should have a talk with his friends and tell them how it went and how he feels and then if they don't like, he can say "fine your problem"
Haven't had that....yet at least.

If I had a friend that went back to a girl that dumped him for another guy, I wouldn't say "I won't be your friend" but I just wouldn't care for his problems after that(I don't see that as me being a bad friend btw) If he won't learn then he won't learn, might as well let him be.

[HayashiTakara]

The right thing for Takashi to say in this situation, is to first ask "Is this what you really want?" get a response and say "Well, if this is what you really want, I hope you won't have any regrets. Good Luck"

This isn't a battle against a drug/alcohol addiction, or a life destroying decision, it's a damn chick. Who Haruto fucks won't effect anyone other than the ones who wants his sausage inside 'em. Even then it's extremely temporary and they will eventually move on to someone else.