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2011-11-10, 21:59 | Link #3344 |
WE ARE.... PENN STATE....
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Penn State will burn to the ground (figuratively... for now). Things are bad. The situation gets worse and worse every few hours (literally).
I am just trying to stick to my routine, go to class, do my work, and somehow carry out my duties with Athletics.
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2011-11-11, 00:29 | Link #3345 |
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Damn Jag, I forgot you live up there...So why don't you give us the low down from your unique perspective? Obviously Joepa had to be the lamb, but disregarding the media circus (Not easy I know)...What's the $hit no ones focusing on? Seems to me the dude who did all the diddling should be the one garnering all the hate and obtuse media scrutiny...
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2011-11-11, 00:37 | Link #3346 |
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I tell you what, man; I just read the grand jury indictment against Sandusky and I almost gagged. What a sick bastard and I hope he gets life.
And Penn State's lack off action when McQueary (who should have gone straight to the police) saw what he saw. . . |
2011-11-11, 00:44 | Link #3347 |
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Carson Palmer might end up being exactly what Oakland needed once he gets more in sync with their offense. The big ones he unloaded tonight were pretty wow....Rivers is going to get eaten alive by media this week.
As for the Penn State fiacso...ugh...no person deserves to be the victim of something like that. Those responsible had better be made to pay. Sex crimes are usually taken too lighty. People generally only care when it hits close to home. *sigh*
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2011-11-11, 01:27 | Link #3348 |
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Been following the situation. Ugly, Ugly, Ugly. Stay strong and unified, sad and disappointed to see JoePa's career end this way with all the good he did for PSU. Don't let the holier-than-thou pundits get to you, hang in there!
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2011-11-11, 04:22 | Link #3349 |
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Those students last night were really acting ridiculous. They made the entire thing about Joe Paterno. I understand they were frustrated because their legendary coach got fired, but honestly he deserved it. Apparently he knew about the entire thing and said himself in hindsight he should have done more. The funny thing is I think he actually had a chance to keep his job, but when he kept coming out of his house and showing support for his college worshipers and said his little statement about the board of trustees not needing to worry about him and that he'll coach the remainder of the season, that was probably the time where the board decided to bring the hammer down. They had to take back control of Penn State and maintain some order within that institution.
And the students throwing a fiesta on Joe Paterno's front lawn was one of the most disgusting things I've ever seen. And that was before the rioting began. Joe wasn't the victim in all of this. I will say that after all he did that the way he was fired was kind of screwed up since it was via a phone call, but really no other choices seemed logical at the time. The board members certainly couldn't have Joe Paterno followed by his legion of students to the building where the decision would have been made to fire him. Imagine him walking out in tears and the college kids burning that building to the ground. They also couldn't go to his house for safety reasons. Unfortunately this was the only method to do it. I get the feeling a lot of these kids were just using the entire fiasco as an excuse to run buckwild. If you watch the news footage you can tell a lot of folks were smiling and just having a good time causing mayhem. Those idiots needed to stop and think about what they were actually rioting far. Because a football coach got fired? Because he got a raw deal? Right, Joe Paterno really got the raw deal out of all of this. This is more than about a football legacy. It's about people. And it's about doing the right thing. Paterno failed at that. I don't care about the library he donated money to, or how many wins he has as a coach. All of that takes a backseat. Accountability had to be upheld. If he was allowed to coach another game even, it would be terrible and a disaster and further tarnish Penn State's reputation. The board of trustees made the right decision. I really liked what this kid had to say though: That is something I still don't understand. I don't see how he is not fired. I know he's not coaching this Saturday and he actually won't be on the sidelines. I'm guessing he won't be back after the season.
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2011-11-11, 09:47 | Link #3351 |
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The Board of Trustees were under enormous pressure to fire Paterno. Each day this week the sportswriters on shows like ESPN's Around the Horn and Pardon the Interruption spoke with one voice that he should be fired.
However a more important influence was probably PA's governor, Tom Corbett. He was the state's attorney general when the grand jury process began. When he was elected governor, he automatically became a member of the Board. He couldn't reveal what he had learned during the grand jury process, but it appears he put a lot of pressure on his fellow Board members to fire Paterno. I recommend this article for some details on his role. Paterno had to go; McQueary needs to go, too. While there may have been threats against him, it does sound like a convenient excuse for keeping him off the sidelines tomorrow.
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2011-11-11, 17:47 | Link #3353 |
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The reason why the attention is swirling around Paterno and McQueary moreso than Sandusky is because we know what Sandusky is. We know he's a sick freak, and he'll be locked up for life, and probably get revenge raped by some violent inmate. Justice will be served, though of course if I had the chance I'd take a 2x4 to his skull myself.
The assumption is there might be an odd freak in the group, but these 'normal' people reacted in a pretty heartless way themselves. Certainly not on the level of Sandusky himself, but what's the deal with McQueary? You see a kid being raped and choke up and call your daddy? I'd be horrified too, but I'd also be in tears worrying for the kid. You have to stop the rape IN PROGRESS, in my mind, if you are a person with any semblance of proper morality. His decision to consult with his father screams of his desire to cover up his actions. Why else would you wait? What other reason could there possibly be? I think he had to have realized the shame this would cause, and didn't want to involve himself immediately for fear of his career. And while I'm certainly just speculating and don't know enough details to be fully convicted in this idea, I just can't wrap my head around another plausible scenario. For Paterno I'm less inclined to believe his actions were selfish to the point of evil, but it's certainly possible. Hearing him talk, he sounds senile and demented, but who knows. What we do have on the table is the grand jury testimony the McQueary reported everything in detail; if that is true then Joe too is most definitely guilty of covering this up for his fame. Not to mention, Sandusky gets arrested right after Joe breaks the record? Obvious much? |
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2011-11-11, 21:11 | Link #3355 |
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I also find it funny that the students are defending Paterno, but want to axe McQueary when they are really both in the same boat. But due to Paterno being an icon and his tenure at the university, he gets a pass. It's absurd how we put certain people on a pedestal just because they either have a football legacy or they are famous, or whatever. It's practically cult-ish.
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2011-11-12, 00:26 | Link #3356 | |
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2011-11-12, 01:50 | Link #3357 |
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As far as Paterno saying when he will go....
that along with the coverup just goes to show how much of an unwieldly behemoth college football has become. Also I agree about the student/alumni just giving Paterno a pass. Mind you I am not a Keystone Stater, let alone related to PSU. However, if this happened at ioono, Illinois and Ron Zook was in JoePa's shoes, people (including students) would be lining up to stone the guy. |
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