2015-09-29, 22:56 | Link #1083 |
Princess or Plunderer?
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It would be nice if we know what those production committees know.
That way, we'd be able to determine which series can get adaptations, which series can get sequels, and which series and sequels are a hopeless wish for anyone.
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2015-09-29, 23:06 | Link #1084 |
AS Oji-kun
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Frankly, though it's interesting to look at the data, all those decisions are out of our hands. Also I doubt that differences in measurement are sufficiently large to affect conclusions about which shows are likely to be renewed and which are not. For one thing, those decisions may reflect sales of the adapted material and associated merchandise as much as sales of the DVDs and BDs themselves. Chihayafuru had atrociously low disc sales for season one, but it got renewed anyway. Why? Perhaps because when the anime aired, manga sales quadrupled to just under 200,000 copies, and the manga finished the year ranked in the top twenty.
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2015-09-29, 23:22 | Link #1085 | |
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Also, bd sales don't mean much for series. Look at madhouse. Ngnl, mahouka, and overlord likely won't get them despite all selling amazingly. No accel world or horizon either No index Etc etc |
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2015-09-30, 00:54 | Link #1086 | |
Princess or Plunderer?
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Accel World and Horizon are both shelved because Love Live can give Sunrise Studio 8 the money they want at a lower degree of effort. Even as a fan of Horizon, I understand why they don't want to adapt more of the series. As for Index, if you consider Railgun to be part of Index, then that makes four seasons composed of sixteen cours of content out of a franchise. The last time J.C.Staff did such a thing was with Zero no Tsukaima, and very few anime series got that kind of "privilege". I won't blame them if they decide to shelve Index and Railgun in favor of fresher franchises like Kamachi's other works, even if the anime averaged 10-20k in sales.
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2015-09-30, 02:07 | Link #1087 | |
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Gatchaman and Log Horizon also sold like shit but they got 2nd seasons. |
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2015-09-30, 09:38 | Link #1089 |
AS Oji-kun
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I've seen this argument elsewhere and still find it puzzling. Anime is produced by committee, and the studio is often just a hired gun. Decisions about whether to have another installment usually come from the publishers and merchandisers on the committee. I'd imagine most studios would prefer having sequels to get more work. Once again I'll point to Chihayafuru, a Madhouse work. As I said above, I think the decision about having a second season came more from Kodansha than Madhouse.
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2015-09-30, 10:13 | Link #1090 | |
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They'll always be differences between soundscan and oricon With Japanese videogame sales they have two different trackers in Media Create and Famitsu and the differences happen all the time. To use something that ties into anime I'll use Idolmaster Cinderella Girls, last months volume since I only have Media Create figures for Vol 5 atm....
Media Create Sales: Week 35, 2015 (Aug 24 - Aug 30) 07./00. [PS3] TV Anime Idolm@ster: Cinderella Girls G4U! Pack Vol.4 <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.08.27} (¥10.778) - 15.496 / NEW VS Famitsu Sales: Week 35, 2015 (Aug 24 - Aug 30) 10./00. [PS3] TV Anime Idolm@ster: Cinderella Girls G4U! Pack Vol.4 <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2015.08.27} (¥10.778) - 12.172 / NEW <80-100%> Than you add the normal Bluray and DVD sales... Here are the weekly Blu-ray & DVD rankings for August 24th - 30th Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles Blu-ray *3. 12,724 12,724 The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Vol.4 Limited Edition DVD *3. 3,774 **3,774 The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Vol.4 Limited Edition So going by Oricon & Mediacreate Vol 4 of CG sold 31,994 copies. Going by Oricon & Famitsu though it sold 28,670, a difference of 3324 copies. Now imagine you add soundscan figures to the mix if you could, would be an absolute clusterfuck. Oh and can you even buy idolmaster on ps3 digitally? If so Media Create and Famitsu don't track that either.... Quote:
And too add to your example Nanatsu no Taizai sold pretty mediocre, around the 5k range but it's going to get another series next year even though they'll be pushing it with how many manga chapters are out. But since it was the #1 manga for the first half of the fiscal year of 2015 it's getting a new anime. Manga Sales by Series *1. 7,059,400 Nanatsu no Taizai *2. 7,046,066 One Piece *3. 5,231,158 Ansatsu Kyoushitsu *4. 5,047,725 Shingeki no Kyojin Though it will only be 3rd @ best for 2015 since One Piece and SnK will overtake it 100%.... |
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2015-09-30, 12:28 | Link #1091 | |
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2015-10-01, 12:07 | Link #1092 | |
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2015-10-01, 20:05 | Link #1093 | |
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A studio brings the most value to its clients by producing new hits for them, which keeps them in demand (meanwhile, if they coast on sequels and their competitors produce the new hits, who has the upper end when it's time to bid on the next round of work?). Consequently, there's an opportunity cost to taking on a sequel since the resources could be used in search of the next hit. |
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2016-01-20, 23:59 | Link #1094 |
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The LN sales are getting quite a boost from the anime:
Japan's Weekly Light Novel Rankings for Jan 11 - 17 14. *4,706 *43,411 Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut 19. *4,007 *37,142 Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut Vol.2 Weekly Light Novel Series *2. 34,690 Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut Bahamut might end up being LN-adapted anime of the season, but it's competing with KonoSuba for that. |
2016-02-13, 08:34 | Link #1097 |
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Hi, I'm new to the Forum is a pleasure. Well I wanted to ask if you know of any news of how sales of the Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry volumes of the novel and the blu-ray; time not updated this topic in the Forum, thank you
PS: My native language is not English, disculpem any error Last edited by LKK; 2016-02-13 at 14:47. Reason: added series' name |
2016-02-14, 09:57 | Link #1098 | |
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http://www.someanithing.com/series-data-quick-view Rakudai novel is the sold at 226010 last year. It is the 29 best selling light novel in 2015. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...es-2015/.95914 |
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2016-03-02, 06:06 | Link #1099 |
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Wanted to ask whether the stats I've been looking at for the Jan 2016 season are accurate.
This has been one of my fave seasons ever, but the pre-order numbers look very low. From what I saw, only the latest Monogatari installment had decent numbers and the rest were hovering around 2k? Edit: Seems to still be the case for most titles, but Konosuba has definitely picked up and seems way ahead of the rest of the season.
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2017-02-12, 10:17 | Link #1100 |
AS Oji-kun
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A year later and the first reports for 2017 suggest hardly anyone is buying discs any more. Even selling 1,000 copies seems like a bar too high for most series to meet. Uta no Prince Sama is the striking exception, but most series on that list like Flip Flappers (839 copies on average), Classicaloid (235), or Trickster (200) can hardly even be breaking even. It makes me wonder how much longer original series like Flip Flappers, which have no other obvious sources of revenue other than disc sales and licensing fees, will continue to be made.
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