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2010-05-11, 09:49 | Link #1943 |
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Well, that's kind of what I meant... I don't think he was reading the paper on that alien planet in SSJ mode, more likely he was training. El_Frenchie fleshed out the rest of my argument for me so I'll just direct you to his post..
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2010-05-11, 10:53 | Link #1944 | |
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The most he could train would just be to get used to being a SSJ. Goku admitted himself that the Yaldrats weren't a strong race at all, but had a myriad of interesting techniques. |
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2010-05-11, 11:50 | Link #1946 |
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Hm. Perhaps I should rephrase. He's seen him stop Freeza's blasts single-handedly. He was surely underestimating Trunk's potential, but I don't think he was going easy on him with that sword strike and the subsequent struggle to force it down on the saiyan. Not by a long shot. As stupid as he may be, holding back just doesn't make sense in this case.
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2010-05-11, 13:04 | Link #1947 |
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I always assumed Trunks caught them so completely off-guard they couldn't recover quick enough.
One thing about this Trunks is, unlike the other heroes, he isn't very sporting. Later we see examples of this like him not wanting to see Perfect Cell, and his eagerness to give Goku a sensu bean during the Cell Games in hope of just ending it. |
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Yeah it might make him less sporting, but with his background it makes perfect sense. Dude's freaking traumatized, and has learned that he has to be ruthless in battle himself if he wants to avoid seeing everyone he knows get killed again. |
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2010-05-11, 21:39 | Link #1950 |
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But in Dragonball, he often fought random people or was at least able to stop and train for a good period of time. Here, he'd be learning Instant Transmission and getting used to being a SSJ during the time he wasn't traveling. And by the time you're going SSJ, how much can you do without proper equipment or sparring partners?
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2010-05-11, 23:05 | Link #1953 |
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He was there over a year, just doesn't seem likely he didn't do any training at all. Also we have to consider this fact: in Trunks's timeline, Goku somehow beat both Freeza and Cold, who is said to be equal or greater than his son. He definitely couldn't have done that without improving.
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2010-05-11, 23:06 | Link #1954 | |
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Well, he only learned the one technique, and it's a difficult enough technique that he didn't teach it to anyone else (...on purpose), so he may have had his hands full with just that.
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2010-05-11, 23:22 | Link #1955 |
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I disagree, I think Freeza was confident Cold's help would be enough judging from Goku's original battle with him. They wouldn't be underestimating Goku like you said they were with Trunks, so we can assume they were going all out from the start and still lost.
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2010-05-12, 01:53 | Link #1956 |
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Ok I watched episode 56, my first episode of Dragon Ball kai, because I loved this episode in Dragon Ball Z so I wanted to see what it looks like in Kai! But... what the hell! I waited for the awesome moment with the soundtrack "Battle Point Unlimited", I was very disappointed . And the moment when Trunks kills Freeza's henchmen, the soundtrack changed too.
Not epic at all .
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2010-05-12, 12:40 | Link #1958 |
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Frieza's so incredibly cocky that he still couldn't accept that he was weaker than Goku even after his arm, lower torso, legs, and half of his tail had been sliced off. As soon as Goku showed him mercy he struck again, since he refused to accept defeat.
The same likely applies here. As soon as he woke up in Mecha form he wanted to go to Earth to confront Goku again. There's no way he could tell how much stronger he had gotten, if at all, after just a few seconds of consciousness. |
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I understand you two feel that way but I'm just not convinced; if Goku was only slightly stronger than Freeza's 100% on Namek (which is debatable actually, they seemed closer to equal until Freeza's power ran out), there is no way he could beat both Freeza and Cold without having gotten a little stronger. He sure looks stronger to me in the episode that is going to air this weekend, deflecting Trunks's sword with his finger and all. Even with Freeza being cocky, he was already in his final form, the mech probably gave him some power, and his father who is his equal or superior was there with him... just too many factor to make me think Son did no improving.
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