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Old 2008-09-15, 18:07   Link #181
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Honestly, though. Most Shonen manga are like this. Naruto isn't the only series that does this. It just seems to be the worst.
True enough.
One Piece seems to balance out there females surprisingly well for a shonen manga (not that that's anything to be supremely proud of) and, oddly enough, I think Tite Kubo likes his Bleach women a little too much to be a shonen author. Sure the main character downplays them but... damn still.

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Old 2008-09-22, 08:21   Link #182
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DBZ was worse, it didn't even have any female fighters lol... and the females in the show (the fighter's wives) were like 10x more annoying and retarded than Sakura and Ino combined
Pan was a strong fighter, wasn't she? =D
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Old 2008-09-22, 08:24   Link #183
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Pan was a strong fighter, wasn't she? =D
Yeah, but the original creator didn't do any of GT so it doesn't count by fan standards.
Go figure...
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Old 2008-09-22, 13:46   Link #184
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Pan was a strong fighter, wasn't she? =D
If by strong, you mean weak then yeah. GT was all fanservice for Goku's fanboys, and not a single thing more. None of the other characters even got any screentime by comparison.
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Old 2008-09-22, 20:25   Link #185
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Pan was a strong fighter, wasn't she? =D
Oh, I didn't watch DBGT. Something about the superbly sterling reviews it got , made me not so eager to watch it.


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If by strong, you mean weak then yeah.
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Old 2008-09-22, 23:22   Link #186
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Pan was a strong fighter, wasn't she? =D
lol, 18 is way stronger than pan , and i think 18 is the strongest female fighter in db history, probably just stronger than vegeta first super sayan form. Even so, she starts a family and stay home watching kids

back to the topic, i think hinata is strong but she would just end up being a housewife like 18 did
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Old 2008-09-23, 11:43   Link #187
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lol, 18 is way stronger than pan , and i think 18 is the strongest female fighter in db history, probably just stronger than vegeta first super sayan form. Even so, she starts a family and stay home watching kids

back to the topic, i think hinata is strong but she would just end up being a housewife like 18 did
B2B2B2Topic ^^

I don't know about that. Hinata has shown quite genious moves in the filler episodes (this is apparently no manga thread). I think that she knows quite a different style of Hyuuga techniques. She can attack and defent simultaneously.

But Hinata's feelings for Naruto are rooted in his determination, confidence, and strength, all of which she feels she lacks. Naruto also acts as a key component in her quest to improve, as she trains so that she can be like him and impress him at the same time.

I don't know if this has really something to do with love. She's more like a groopie, a fan. I think this one will never really happen. She'll eventually get with Shino.
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Old 2008-09-23, 13:49   Link #188
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B2B2B2Topic ^^

I don't know about that. Hinata has shown quite genious moves in the filler episodes (this is apparently no manga thread). I think that she knows quite a different style of Hyuuga techniques. She can attack and defent simultaneously.

But Hinata's feelings for Naruto are rooted in his determination, confidence, and strength, all of which she feels she lacks. Naruto also acts as a key component in her quest to improve, as she trains so that she can be like him and impress him at the same time.

I don't know if this has really something to do with love. She's more like a groopie, a fan. I think this one will never really happen. She'll eventually get with Shino.
I couldn't agree more with your groopie comment. Hinata = random 12year old, Naruto = Jonas brothers.... She'll get over him soon enough.
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Old 2008-09-25, 01:59   Link #189
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She'll eventually get with Shino.
EW.

(The guy has bugs crawling inside & out of his body, maybe he should just end up alone.)

The dog guy would be ok though.

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Old 2008-09-25, 14:01   Link #190
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Hinata was one of the first people who saw something in naruto.
I would enjoy if in the end they would find each other.
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Old 2008-10-01, 01:55   Link #191
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Hinata was one of the first people who saw something in naruto.
I would enjoy if in the end they would find each other.
Two times, a girl like Hinata attempted to attrackt me, but she totally failed. I think I can compare it a little and I say Naruto wants a strong and determined female like Sakura. One who has to be conquered and resists until she finally gives in. This means to win the palm. Naruto is all about beasts... same as beasts, women need to be tamed. Women need to be cats, not dogs.
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Two times, a girl like Hinata attempted to attrackt me, but she totally failed. I think I can compare it a little and I say Naruto wants a strong and determined female like Sakura. One who has to be conquered and resists until she finally gives in. This means to win the palm. Naruto is all about beasts... same as beasts, women need to be tamed. Women need to be cats, not dogs.
Women need to be conqured, eh?
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I don't quite know what to say to that other than bravo for having the balls to come out and say it.
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Old 2008-10-01, 15:34   Link #193
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Women need to be conqured, eh?
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I don't quite know what to say to that other than bravo for having the balls to come out and say it.
Of course! That's how they show they are worthy being loved. Who wants a dog-type woman?
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Of course! That's how they show they are worthy being loved. Who wants a dog-type woman?
Again, I think i'm afraid to answer that one......
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Old 2008-10-01, 15:43   Link #195
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Of course! That's how they show they are worthy being loved. Who wants a dog-type woman?
Just what you would expect a German to say (Then again, as an American, I am sure many of the traditional stereotypes that once applied to the Germans, can easily apply to an American ).

That being said, I understand what you are saying (that a man does not want a mate that he can just rule over without any complain), but I can't help but feel that your terminolgy is a bit...loose. Instead of "dog-type" or "conquer", simply mention that the potential mate must have great personal strength and conviction and that they are assertive when they need to be.

That being said, Hinata is too passive for Naruto (he would rule over her), and Sakura is too assertive for Naruto (she would rule over him). So, Naruto should find a new girl that is somewhere in the middle between the two.
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Just what you would expect a German to say (Then again, as an American, I am sure many of the traditional stereotypes that once applied to the Germans, can easily apply to an American ).

That being said, I understand what you are saying (that a man does not want a mate that he can just rule over without any complain), but I can't help but feel that your terminolgy is a bit...loose. Instead of "dog-type" or "conquer", simply mention that the potential mate must have great personal strength and conviction and that they are assertive when they need to be.

That being said, Hinata is too passive for Naruto (he would rule over her), and Sakura is too assertive for Naruto (she would rule over him). So, Naruto should find a new girl that is somewhere in the middle between the two.
You are saying the same that I say directly, but you say it in a politic way. I call that dog-type because people are submissive. The one that gives in first is submissive, it's as simple as that. Besides, you can look at my face. I am half-italian. I am no German stereotype. I am actually quite passionate and I prefer cat-types. Oh, I love those animalic names. And yes, we're quite the animals considering reproduction.

Have you ever loved a cat-type? When a cat-type responds to you, this is thrilling, intriguing and it changes your life. I just don't take second quality.
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I think that is not even the point.

As i said before, they are too damn busy to take some "quality" time and form couples.

I think that any love relationship would follow the Asuma/Kurenai way.

To Kishimoto would be too risky to involve Naruto romantically with some girl, that is material only for movies (as we could see), then, Naruto and Sakura are partners, same way Jiraiya and Tsunade and Hinata will always worship Naruto as an idol.

But time to flirt, the way Shiho look at Shikamaru, sure we could see
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I think that is not even the point.

As i said before, they are too damn busy to take some "quality" time and form couples.

I think that any love relationship would follow the Asuma/Kurenai way.

To Kishimoto would be too risky to involve Naruto romantically with some girl, that is material only for movies (as we could see), then, Naruto and Sakura are partners, same way Jiraiya and Tsunade and Hinata will always worship Naruto as an idol.

But time to flirt, the way Shiho look at Shikamaru, sure we could see
She can look all she wants. Temari will pair with Shikamaru. She's scarier than his mom and he just needs a scarier woman. Besides, she's blonde with a crazy hair-do and she's pretty feminine.
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But, that's the problem Auroraflash...

This is not a "black or white" issue, Kishimoto is playing with Shikamaru being the "ladiesman" of the show, there is not definitive couples.
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But, that's the problem Auroraflash...

This is not a "black or white" issue, Kishimoto is playing with Shikamaru being the "ladiesman" of the show, there is not definitive couples.
So you're saying he gets a harem?
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