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Wilshere · 2013-06-07, 05:52

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Originally Posted by Mentar

I'll give you Volume 8, even though I want to point out that Kirino never really managed to "accept their relationship". See what happened afterwards.

Volumes 1 and 4 are mere "thank you"s for a huge huge favor Kyousuke did for her.

All things considered, there is not even a remote semblance of a balance between Kirino's behavior towards Kyousuke and Kyousuke's constant pampering of Kirino. Kirino is consistently the spoiled and ungrateful princess that all other characters are revolving around, trying to blow sugar up her rear end. I had some remote hopes that the story would end on a message from Kyousuke to Kirino being "I love you, and I care for you, but this one time, in the end, I'm going to let my wishes take priority over yours".

Alas, it was not meant to be. All Kirino, eternally, forever.

Fine, then.

*toss*

A mere Kirino hater??? If you arent satisfied you can always buy the game and choose your favorite heroine. This is how anime works,they want profits so they gave us the most satisfying ending(in my opinion)and if u arent ok with it you have to buy games etc.....

Lucarion · 2013-06-07, 05:58

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Originally Posted by Mentar

I think I see now where our misunderstanding is coming from. I'll try to explain:

For me, the kiss or kisses (both) are to signify Kyousuke's "choice". It's a symbol that he chooses Kirino. The second kiss only underlines this choice - he still "loves" her. BUT. By "going back" or more correctly pretending to do so, the author dodges the bullet to explain how they're dealing with the problems - the stigmatization, the social backlash, their parents' reactions, all the likes. It reminds me of an old project manager joke for impossible tasks: You plan it all through, and then just add a step "here is where a miracle happens". Exactly THAT is the cop-out. The author capitulates and refuses to resolve the problems. That all "happens in-between and we don't see it".

Also, it just doesn't fit with my life experiences. That's not how romantic love works - especially not the self-centered kind that Kirino employs.

Oh, I read the novel translations, too. No substantial change in my eyes. Kirino's continuous abuse of Kyousuke rings very true here. I wonder how many times she called her so-called "love" "disgusting" or worse. Her treatment of him has been just the same: Kirino bossed him around to solve her own problems and gives him verbal and physical abuse as thanks. I'll easily concede that she did develop a certain form of "protectiveness" towards Kyousuke, but it smacked more of "possessiveness" to me.

Please answer me this: When did Kirino do something to help Kyousuke? When did she express genuine appreciation for his and his efforts? When did Kirino forgo a selfish wish of her own for the sake of Kyousuke? When did she even show any shred of interest in Kyousuke's wishes?

Yes, she grew irritable over the threatened loss of her possession (Kyousuke). Is that your idea of "love"?

First off, thank you for answering. Now for my reply...

One, her feelings are incestuous. It's very wrong, and she's very aware of this. It's a disgusting, shameful feeling that must be locked away and heavily guarded. It's only natural she'd get defensive over it and it also adds to the hypocritical humor since out of every one, since she's the one who adores playing imouto-ge, she's probably the one with the least amount of reason to make fun of Kyou for playing something she made him play. Now if you're referring to her calling Kyousuke gross, then Kyousuke does the same thing--again remember, they maybe incestuous, but their romantic feelings for each other doesn't drown out the fact that they are siblings--and will always be so. It's perfectly normal for sibs to act that way towards each other when they're pissed and usually have less restraint when doing so. Doesn't mean they love each other less. When the series first began the two didn't even speak to each other, and plainly said they hated each other; only now have we found the reasons why it led up to that, so I'm not bothered by how she treated Kyou. It's perfectly OK, and how do I know that? Because Kyousuke doesn't say otherwise; the guy is FINE no matter what you dish out on him. He's not being bullied; he's just letting her get away with it because she's his sister which I'm going to repeat again because I feel this is pretty critical to understanding their dynamic-- Kirino is allowed to treat Kyou that way because she is his SISTER. That fact alone excuses her for a lot, and Kyou knows that because he doesn't see what she asks him to do as a big deal.

Now as for Kirino taking Kyousuke into consideration. Well, there's the Kuroneko incident, the time when Kyousuke was studying for the test, the time she gave Kyousuke a gift comes to mind. I think there more but I can't remember them, but at least its not nothing. Also, what exactly were Kyousuke's wishes? The guy had no ambitions prior to the series and wanted to live out his life in a mundane cycle of nothing.

Kakurin · 2013-06-07, 06:04

Following spoilers are based on a Chinese quick translation of chapter 1 (posted today, 18:07 Chinese time, so should be legit, but be warned, this is a quick translation of a quick translation

).

Spoiler for Chapter 1:

EDIT: Note, this is only one part of chapter 1. Others are following. The guy just posted another part.

Wilshere · 2013-06-07, 06:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by SigUp

Following spoilers are based on a Chinese quick translation of chapter 1 (posted today, 18:07 Chinese time, so should be legit, but be warned, this is a quick translation of a quick translation

).

Spoiler for Chapter 1:

EDIT: Note, this is only one part of chapter 1. Others are following. The guy just posted another part.

Lol looks like Kyousuke did his homework playing eroge and a very sharp move convincing her lol although she wanted to go out with him no hesitation. I think its legit but Kinda short but it will do. Thx mate

Oh so its only a part of it

Kakurin · 2013-06-07, 06:15

Yep, chapter one continues on Christmas eve. Will translate it later.

matapat · 2013-06-07, 06:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mentar

For me, the kiss or kisses (both) are to signify Kyousuke's "choice". It's a symbol that he chooses Kirino. The second kiss only underlines this choice - he still "loves" her. BUT. By "going back" or more correctly pretending to do so, the author dodges the bullet to explain how they're dealing with the problems - the stigmatization, the social backlash, their parents' reactions, all the likes. It reminds me of an old project manager joke for impossible tasks: You plan it all through, and then just add a step "here is where a miracle happens". Exactly THAT is the cop-out. The author capitulates and refuses to resolve the problems. That all "happens in-between and we don't see it".

Also, it just doesn't fit with my life experiences. That's not how romantic love works - especially not the self-centered kind that Kirino employs.

I kind of agree with Mentar here, but honestly, to me it feels like the author gave the series an oddly appropriate ending, unsatisfying as it was.

The whole way through it felt like Fushimi was writing the series in a "have your cake and eat it too" manner, trying to combine madcap comedy of traditional anime romcoms with an undercurrent of more serious examinations of incest like Koi Kaze. And in the end it wasn't a fully successful marriage. The comedy bits were entertaining enough with plenty of laugh-out-loud moments and poking fun at otaku culture, but the more serious bits played up the drama of the societal problems Kyosuke and Kirino would face, then throwing it all away at the end without fully resolving it.

It's like he was caught between the choices of a "screw it, let's end this as zany as possible" ending, a more realistic ending of them acknowledging their feelings and moving beyond them because the relationship wasn't possible, or a somber ending where they hook up despite everyone's protests and march onward to whatever the future holds. Instead he does the meet you halfway approach and delivers the half-assed "maybe ever after" ambiguity.

Hopefully that 10 year timeskip epilogue provides a more satisfying conclusion, because the one given seems decidedly

DevG · 2013-06-07, 06:27

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Originally Posted by GVN.Chaos

Actually, Volume 11 was done in 10 days. After seeing the sudden push from Vol 12, I decided to post everything I had online, despite that only the first four chapter had passed proofreader.
Anyway, with 392 pages, it would need at least 78 hours of working non--stop. While it's possible to finish in a week, don't set your hope too high.

Personally, I can go with this ending. This is as close as a Kirino-end that we could get without having to deal with the society pressure for a incest end. Of course, if Kirino just keep the ring it would be even better

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON VOLUME 11

After reading the spoilers for kirino x Kyosuke, I felt sad I spoiled it but I was litterly bursting with energy that I couldnt lay down anymore on my iphone, I grabbed my headphones and blasteted the main theme of oreimo, and did 50 pushups as fast as I could then 300 jumping jacks, 35 pushups then 200 jumping jacks thne 20 pushups and 100 jumping jacks!

IF I HADNT DONE THAT I WOULD STILL BE HYPER ALL MORNING LONG! THIS REALLY PUT SO MUCH ENERGY IN ME!

I only wish that feeling lasted even longer! If i read volume 12 to that point, I litterly could have run a marathon HAHA! I REALLY FEEL THIS WAY

CHAOS THANK YOU AGAIN, Please try your best to get volume 12 out asap

If you need anything please ask me, ask me ask me!

IM SOO HAPPY THIS IS WHAT I WANTED FROM THE START

Kirino X Kyosuke ftw!!!

Finally after 11 volumes the real romance came in, but the author NEEDS to follow up on this!!

GOOD LUCK CHAOSS

I will ask arround for the raws so I Can give them to you, everyone help him! Ask all reviewers to get the raws to him!!!!

DevG · 2013-06-07, 06:32

OH YAH WHILE I WAIT FOR VOLUME 12 I have to re-read all the volumes

I started oreimo light novels around volune 6 to contniune from the anime but since It has come to this, And I have to wait for volume 12, Re-reading them seems like a really nice idea

Lets doo this -

Choas you have my 100% Support

sooj · 2013-06-07, 06:33

im pretty sure the way it ended was the best we could get giving the situation for a kirino/kyousuke ending
so im
kinda
really happy like this
also im
just
enjoying a whole lot the kirino haters' reaction

Kakurin · 2013-06-07, 06:44

Continuing the translation of the translation:

Spoiler for Continuation Chapter 1:

- The calender turns to Christmas eve. It is a true winter morning. As agreed Kirino and Kyousuke leave home seperately and meet at the station. Kyousuke meets Kirino and notices, that she wears the same outfit as last Christmas. He thinks to himself that a year already passed. Kyousuke continues his inner monologue, that although Kirino wears the same outfit, she seems more mature. In a single year span, she has changed to a degree that you perhaps could mistake her for somebody else. Kyousuke can't help but feel a little bit proud.
- Kyousuke approaches Kirino "Oi, have you waited for a long time?" "---- you're too slow. How long do you think have I waited?"
- "It's 10 minutes earlier than agreed, ok!? By the way, when meeting you, it always starts like this."
- "Urusai, then, you should know, what I want to say." "'It has nothing to do with the agreed-upon time. The important thing is you should arrive earlier than me.'.... right?"
- "If it's so clear, why don't you act upon it?" "You left home earlier, ok? How can I manage to arrive earlier than you?" Don't ask something that is physically impossible!
- "If you had run, it would have worked." "...."
- Kyousuke thinks that then she would have complained in another way. Because they are siblings.
- "Then... let's go." Kyousuke stretches out his right hand and takes Kirino's bag.
- Kirino: "And then?" Kyousuke thinks that this angering "And then" should mean "Where are we going first?".
- "Let's go and buy clothes. You wanted to help me choose new clothes, right?" "Ok, I don't want to walk around a as plain-as-hell you." "Hai, hai, sorry."
- Kyousuke thinks that this kind of reaction can't hurt him any longer. Rather it can be read as this guy's smile. He thinks that this kind of reaction borders on SM (or so, if I understood it correctly).
- He notices Kirino stares at his face. "Hm? What?" "Ah, nothing, nothing." Kirino turns away and picks up the pace. "Oi, oi, wait. Don't get ahead."
- Kyousuke thinks that even though he is accustomed to it, he still can't understand his sisters' actions. "We haven't picked out a destination yet, why are you hastening?"
- "You don't know where to buy clothes, right. Shut up an just follow me." "Ah, right. But at least tell me where we are going."
- Hearing this tone Kirino answers happily "To where you once bought these little trousers".

tommythecat · 2013-06-07, 06:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by matapat

I kind of agree with Mentar here, but honestly, to me it feels like the author gave the series an oddly appropriate ending, unsatisfying as it was.

The whole way through it felt like Fushimi was writing the series in a "have your cake and eat it too" manner, trying to combine madcap comedy of traditional anime romcoms with an undercurrent of more serious examinations of incest like Koi Kaze. And in the end it wasn't a fully successful marriage. The comedy bits were entertaining enough with plenty of laugh-out-loud moments and poking fun at otaku culture, but the more serious bits played up the drama of the societal problems Kyosuke and Kirino would face, then throwing it all away at the end without fully resolving it.

It's like he was caught between the choices of a "screw it, let's end this as zany as possible" ending, a more realistic ending of them acknowledging their feelings and moving beyond them because the relationship wasn't possible, or a somber ending where they hook up despite everyone's protests and march onward to whatever the future holds. Instead he does the meet you halfway approach and delivers the half-assed "maybe ever after" ambiguity.

Hopefully that 10 year timeskip epilogue provides a more satisfying conclusion, because the one given seems decidedly

I always thought of the series as toying with incest, sort of a parody or satire of it. I eventually could tell that Kirino indeed loved Kyousuke but the reverse still seems flimsy to me. Yeah hindsight of all his actions "prove" his feelings but this ending is far too abrupt in scope and I have no idea if there was resolution for any of the things that I think truly mattered yet. Well I guess I can assume one of them was resolved, they repaired their bond, they just repaired it a little too well and are lovers instead.

Wilshere · 2013-06-07, 07:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by SigUp

Continuing the translation of the translation:

Spoiler for Continuation Chapter 1:

- The calender turns to Christmas eve. It is a true winter morning. As agreed Kirino and Kyousuke leave home seperately and meet at the station. Kyousuke meets Kirino and notices, that she wears the same outfit as last Christmas. He thinks to himself that a year already passed. Kyousuke continues his inner monologue, that although Kirino wears the same outfit, she seems more mature. In a single year span, she has changed to a degree that you perhaps could mistake her for somebody else. Kyousuke can't help but feel a little bit proud.
- Kyousuke approaches Kirino "Oi, have you waited for a long time?" "---- you're too slow. How long do you think have I waited?"
- "It's 10 minutes earlier than agreed, ok!? By the way, when meeting you, it always starts like this."
- "Urusai, then, you should know, what I want to say." "'It has nothing to do with the agreed-upon time. The important thing is you should arrive earlier than me.'.... right?"
- "If it's so clear, why don't you act upon it?" "You left home earlier, ok? How can I manage to arrive earlier than you?" Don't ask something that is physically impossible!
- "If you had run, it would have worked." "...."
- Kyousuke thinks that then she would have complained in another way. Because they are siblings.
- "Then... let's go." Kyousuke stretches out his right hand and takes Kirino's bag.
- Kirino: "And then?" Kyousuke thinks that this angering "And then" should mean "Where are we going first?".
- "Let's go and buy clothes. You wanted to help me choose new clothes, right?" "Ok, I don't want to walk around a as plain-as-hell you." "Hai, hai, sorry."
- Kyousuke thinks that this kind of reaction can't hurt him any longer. Rather it can be read as this guy's smile. He thinks that this kind of reaction borders on SM (or so, if I understood it correctly).
- He notices Kirino stares at his face. "Hm? What?" "Ah, nothing, nothing." Kirino turns away and picks up the pace. "Oi, oi, wait. Don't get ahead."
- Kyousuke thinks that even though he is accustomed to it, he still can't understand his sisters' actions. "We haven't picked out a destination yet, why are you hastening?"
- "You don't know where to buy clothes, right. Shut up an just follow me." "Ah, right. But at least tell me where we are going."
- Hearing this tone Kirino answers happily "To where you once bought these little trousers".

So does chapter 1 end here or there is another continuation?

cheesie · 2013-06-07, 07:02

Incest end.

Did anyone really expect otherwise?

Their relationship was never a commentary on how sweet/fuzzy bros and sisters can be, as some would adamantly take it, and I'm glad this volume puts it to rest.

I mean, I would vomit in my brother's face if we were to go 10% of where Kyousuke/Kirino went in the entire novel series.

Cheers for KxK however, have always supported them.

larethian · 2013-06-07, 07:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by SigUp

Continuing the translation of the translation:

Spoiler for Continuation Chapter 1:

- The calender turns to Christmas eve. It is a true winter morning. As agreed Kirino and Kyousuke leave home seperately and meet at the station. Kyousuke meets Kirino and notices, that she wears the same outfit as last Christmas. He thinks to himself that a year already passed. Kyousuke continues his inner monologue, that although Kirino wears the same outfit, she seems more mature. In a single year span, she has changed to a degree that you perhaps could mistake her for somebody else. Kyousuke can't help but feel a little bit proud.
- Kyousuke approaches Kirino "Oi, have you waited for a long time?" "---- you're too slow. How long do you think have I waited?"
- "It's 10 minutes earlier than agreed, ok!? By the way, when meeting you, it always starts like this."
- "Urusai, then, you should know, what I want to say." "'It has nothing to do with the agreed-upon time. The important thing is you should arrive earlier than me.'.... right?"
- "If it's so clear, why don't you act upon it?" "You left home earlier, ok? How can I manage to arrive earlier than you?" Don't ask something that is physically impossible!
- "If you had run, it would have worked." "...."
- Kyousuke thinks that then she would have complained in another way. Because they are siblings.
- "Then... let's go." Kyousuke stretches out his right hand and takes Kirino's bag.
- Kirino: "And then?" Kyousuke thinks that this angering "And then" should mean "Where are we going first?".
- "Let's go and buy clothes. You wanted to help me choose new clothes, right?" "Ok, I don't want to walk around a as plain-as-hell you." "Hai, hai, sorry."
- Kyousuke thinks that this kind of reaction can't hurt him any longer. Rather it can be read as this guy's smile. He thinks that this kind of reaction borders on SM (or so, if I understood it correctly).
- He notices Kirino stares at his face. "Hm? What?" "Ah, nothing, nothing." Kirino turns away and picks up the pace. "Oi, oi, wait. Don't get ahead."
- Kyousuke thinks that even though he is accustomed to it, he still can't understand his sisters' actions. "We haven't picked out a destination yet, why are you hastening?"
- "You don't know where to buy clothes, right. Shut up an just follow me." "Ah, right. But at least tell me where we are going."
- Hearing this tone Kirino answers happily "To where you once bought these little trousers".

It feels so creepy (sending shivers) to me now that I'm not sure whether I can actually read the actual volume now. I don't know why, this never happened with my eroge, but in Oreimo, it feels creepy to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesie

Incest end.

Did anyone really expect otherwise?

Their relationship was never a commentary on how sweet/fuzzy bros and sisters can be, as some would adamantly take it, and I'm glad this volume puts it to rest.

I mean, I would vomit in my brother's face if we were to go 10% of where Kyousuke/Kirino went in the entire novel series.

Cheers for KxK however, have always supported them.

Probably not starting from the later volumes.
But if you are talking right from volume 1, then yes. You can read the first few pages of this thread to see.

sooj · 2013-06-07, 07:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesie

Incest end.

Did anyone really expect otherwise?

Their relationship was never a commentary on how sweet/fuzzy bros and sisters can be, as some would adamantly take it, and I'm glad this volume puts it to rest.

I mean, I would vomit in my brother's face if we were to go 10% of where Kyousuke/Kirino went in the entire novel series.

Cheers for KxK however, have always supported them.

I didn't.
Also i probably wouldn't throw up on my brother's face in that case but I've got a bit of a brocon myself so nevermind??

ALSO THANKS FOR THE PEOPLE WORKING HARD TO BRING US SUMMARIES??

Bakaizer · 2013-06-07, 07:13

1. what happened to kuroneko in the end?

2. incest anime ranking

1. yosuga no sora
2. Koko Naka ni hitori
3. oreimo
4. onii-chan dakedo ae sai

Kakurin · 2013-06-07, 07:18

Next, love how Kyousuke teases Kirino back, they are cute

:

Spoiler for Continuation Chapter 1:

- They exit the train. Kyousuke: "Harajuku... I haven't been here in three years (so since before that Sakurai incident).
- Kyousuke thinks about how different metropolitan Tokyo is, compared to that "village" Chiba. He reminiscens that the last time he was here, he was buying trousers in order to complete the task the absentee Sakurai had given him.
- Kyousuke notices the Christmas atmosphere in Harajuku and sees many couples. Christmas date...?
- "Ai, ai, we do seem like a couple to bystanders, don't we?" "A.. are you stupid?!"
- Kyousuke thinks about how often he has been called stupid today. He is too lazy to translate the meaning of that "are you stupid" and he doesn't know, whether he is on the mark, anyway.
- "By the way, Kanako said, that even when we stand together, we don't seem like lovers."
- "Is that so." Kyousuke thinks it's impressive that Kirino still remembers such things.
- "Ah, that's a pity." "....you... want us to look like a couple? ....uah~ Really disgusting."
- Kyousuke says that with so many couples around them, it won't be too embarassing to act a little like a couple.
- Kirino: "Aha, by the way... you seem a little bit narcissistic lately". "Ha?"
- Kirino walks in a position that is neither close, nor separate to Kyousuke. He turns a little to look at her, and she does the same.
- Kirino says that through their interaction their misunderstandings were cleared up and she now knows how he wants to have a better relationship with her.
- "But... and then?" "..."
- Kirino stops, drops her head and says: "D.. Don't act like a boyfriend, though." "No, I wasn't ~~~~~" "Ha? You clearly were" "I wasn't!" "You super were~" She quotes him and says how he treated this cute imouto as a girlfriend.

- "I mean, I didn't have this intention!"
- "Then, what did you mean?"
- "I did not have any intention. [...] Rather it is you who is so sensitive."
- "?!? N.. No, I wasn't sensitive"
- "Ha, you clearly were." "You super were~" Kyousuke teases her, about how she was sensitive and tries to rub it off him.
- Kirino gets angry (but also embarrassed) due to Kyousuke mimicking her, and says, how can he say something like that, no need to anger her on purpose.
- Kyousuke says, that's something he should say and thinks to himself that she has hit herself in the process.
- Bystander: "Ah, this couple is really cute"
- "Live broadcast of a couple's fight~~~"
- Both: "Ah..." "Quickly... let's go."

Kakurin · 2013-06-07, 07:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilshere

So does chapter 1 end here or there is another continuation?

I don't know how much follows, but I suspect it ends perhaps with them in Akiba, or possible at the Skytree. But right now I have to leave, later I will look for further translations.

Wilshere · 2013-06-07, 07:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by SigUp

I don't know how much follows, but I suspect it ends perhaps with them in Akiba, or possible at the Skytree. But right now I have to leave, later I will look for further translations.

Sure thing mate thx in prior

Paracelsus · 2013-06-07, 07:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikohowell

2. incest anime ranking

1. yosuga no sora
2. oreimo
3. akane iro

Fixed to remove "incest" cop-out. YNS still at the top for much better pacing drama-wise and the fact the animation went all-out with their relationship. Oreimo is a very, very close second because it's the most mainstream of them all and the author still managed to do it, no matter the subtleness of the ending. Akane Iro is third because they went all-ages with the cop-out but they still they didn't betray the canon (that sees Minato as the winner).

2013-06-07, 06:04	Link #2423
Kakurin 大佐 Join Date: Jun 2013	Following spoilers are based on a Chinese quick translation of chapter 1 (posted today, 18:07 Chinese time, so should be legit, but be warned, this is a quick translation of a quick translation ). Spoiler for Chapter 1: - Chapter begins with Kyousuke asking Kirino to go out with him on Christmas eve - Kirino replies "Huh, are you stupid? Go to die." - Kyousuke then just says "OK, on the 24th 9 o'clock at the station." - Kirino answers that since when did she agree, Kyousuke "Huh? Your 'Huh, are you stupid?' means 'No problem' doesn't it?" - Kirino of course refutes, then Kyousuke quotes Rinko-rin - Kirino proceeds to say, how her quote has a different meaning than what Rinko-rin says. Then Kirino says that Rinko-rins quote has different meanings in different context, one example in the Rinko-route, the other in the Miyabi-route. - Kyousuke's answer: "So, you really mean OK, don't you" - Kirino answers back that she and Rinko-rin are different types of imouto. - Kyousuke just ignores her and asks her, whether she isn't cold, as she always wears clothes, that show her legs. Kirino tries to kick him, he dodges. Kyousuke thinks to himself, that for someone who has endured Ayase's training, such a kick is child's play. - Kyousuke and Kirino continue their verbal sparring. (Quite a nice scene I might add, I like it). - Kirino then calms down, folds her arms in front of her chest and asks him why she has to go out on a date with him on Christmas eve, and two days nontheless. Then she says "are you stupid?" three consecutive times. - Kyousuke in an inner monologue says that those "are you stupid" contain different meanings. He, as her aniki, would translate them as: - "Then, explaining the FLAG of that day, if you can truly make me happy, I will grade you. If not, then try to calm me down." - Kyousuke then says to Kirino that she should listen to him and sit over there (the sofa), which she does after a "Huh..." - Kirino asks what he has to say to her, after her usual "Can't you sit in a little distance from me?" (They are sitting side-by-side) - Kyosuke tells her his reasons for asking her out. - "First of all, that day a Christmas-themed eroge will be available for sale." - "Then we can shop around Akiba's stores, [...]" - Kirino comments that for him, he knows an awful lot about this. - Kyousuke then says that the magazine she was reading; he also read it and asks her to open page 145. - When Kirino hears 145 she shivers strongly. - On this page: "ACG Akiba Store, Christmas-love promo action" (sorry, don't know how to translate it). Couples coming into this store can get limited editions products as a gift. - Kyosuke: "This limited product... you really want it, don't you?" "................." - Kirino sports a look like she is about to die. - Kirino: "Ma, ma... of course I want it. Of course I really want this special Christmas [blablabla, too lazy to translate that ^^].... of course I want to go out an by eroge.... but why on Christmas, and why only us two, and why to Akiba" - Kyousuke teases her, that these are not words spoken by the eroge master. She replies, that she not only is an eroge master, but also an attractive girl (or so). - Kirino: "Doing that on Christmas means failing as a girl... and this couple promo, us two... once again as a fake couple." - Kyousuke: "Then let's shop around after going to Akihabara. We are not that often in Tokyo, so let's do some things you do during Christmas -- like visiting the legendary 'Skytree'". - Kirino doesn't want to go there. Kyousuke thinks that if he really wants to ask her out, he can't give up here. He reorganizes his approach: - "W..Why?" - "Because you are too plain." Should I give up? "My clothes... are too plain?" "No, everything." "Then, what do you want me to do?" - Kyousuke is desperate. Just when he is about to leave to his room: - Kirino: "...really. There is no other way, let me help you with your clothing". "Huh?" "Ha? Why are you looking so dumb? I said, when the time comes, I will accompany you in going to a clothing store and help you choose your clothes. That way you will look somewhat better." - "If I let you accompany a bishojo like me on Christmas--- you have to give me a good time." - "Yes! Leave it up to me!". EDIT: Note, this is only one part of chapter 1. Others are following. The guy just posted another part.

2013-06-07, 07:13	Link #2436
Bakaizer Demon Hunter Join Date: May 2013 Location: Ente Isla	1. what happened to kuroneko in the end? 2. incest anime ranking 1. yosuga no sora 2. Koko Naka ni hitori 3. oreimo 4. onii-chan dakedo ae sai __________________ Friendship and Rivalry. These two have it

2013-06-07, 06:15	Link #2425
Kakurin 大佐 Join Date: Jun 2013	Yep, chapter one continues on Christmas eve. Will translate it later.

2013-06-07, 06:32	Link #2428
DevG Member Join Date: Jun 2013	OH YAH WHILE I WAIT FOR VOLUME 12 I have to re-read all the volumes I started oreimo light novels around volune 6 to contniune from the anime but since It has come to this, And I have to wait for volume 12, Re-reading them seems like a really nice idea Lets doo this - Choas you have my 100% Support

2013-06-07, 06:33	Link #2429
sooj Junior Member Join Date: May 2013	im pretty sure the way it ended was the best we could get giving the situation for a kirino/kyousuke ending so im kinda really happy like this also im just enjoying a whole lot the kirino haters' reaction

2013-06-07, 06:44	Link #2430
Kakurin 大佐 Join Date: Jun 2013	Continuing the translation of the translation: Spoiler for Continuation Chapter 1: - The calender turns to Christmas eve. It is a true winter morning. As agreed Kirino and Kyousuke leave home seperately and meet at the station. Kyousuke meets Kirino and notices, that she wears the same outfit as last Christmas. He thinks to himself that a year already passed. Kyousuke continues his inner monologue, that although Kirino wears the same outfit, she seems more mature. In a single year span, she has changed to a degree that you perhaps could mistake her for somebody else. Kyousuke can't help but feel a little bit proud. - Kyousuke approaches Kirino "Oi, have you waited for a long time?" "---- you're too slow. How long do you think have I waited?" - "It's 10 minutes earlier than agreed, ok!? By the way, when meeting you, it always starts like this." - "Urusai, then, you should know, what I want to say." "'It has nothing to do with the agreed-upon time. The important thing is you should arrive earlier than me.'.... right?" - "If it's so clear, why don't you act upon it?" "You left home earlier, ok? How can I manage to arrive earlier than you?" Don't ask something that is physically impossible! - "If you had run, it would have worked." "...." - Kyousuke thinks that then she would have complained in another way. Because they are siblings. - "Then... let's go." Kyousuke stretches out his right hand and takes Kirino's bag. - Kirino: "And then?" Kyousuke thinks that this angering "And then" should mean "Where are we going first?". - "Let's go and buy clothes. You wanted to help me choose new clothes, right?" "Ok, I don't want to walk around a as plain-as-hell you." "Hai, hai, sorry." - Kyousuke thinks that this kind of reaction can't hurt him any longer. Rather it can be read as this guy's smile. He thinks that this kind of reaction borders on SM (or so, if I understood it correctly). - He notices Kirino stares at his face. "Hm? What?" "Ah, nothing, nothing." Kirino turns away and picks up the pace. "Oi, oi, wait. Don't get ahead." - Kyousuke thinks that even though he is accustomed to it, he still can't understand his sisters' actions. "We haven't picked out a destination yet, why are you hastening?" - "You don't know where to buy clothes, right. Shut up an just follow me." "Ah, right. But at least tell me where we are going." - Hearing this tone Kirino answers happily "To where you once bought these little trousers".

2013-06-07, 07:02	Link #2433
cheesie Dame Cheesie Graphic Designer Join Date: May 2004	Incest end. Did anyone really expect otherwise? Their relationship was never a commentary on how sweet/fuzzy bros and sisters can be, as some would adamantly take it, and I'm glad this volume puts it to rest. I mean, I would vomit in my brother's face if we were to go 10% of where Kyousuke/Kirino went in the entire novel series. Cheers for KxK however, have always supported them.

2013-06-07, 07:18	Link #2437
Kakurin 大佐 Join Date: Jun 2013	Next, love how Kyousuke teases Kirino back, they are cute : Spoiler for Continuation Chapter 1: - They exit the train. Kyousuke: "Harajuku... I haven't been here in three years (so since before that Sakurai incident). - Kyousuke thinks about how different metropolitan Tokyo is, compared to that "village" Chiba. He reminiscens that the last time he was here, he was buying trousers in order to complete the task the absentee Sakurai had given him. - Kyousuke notices the Christmas atmosphere in Harajuku and sees many couples. Christmas date...? - "Ai, ai, we do seem like a couple to bystanders, don't we?" "A.. are you stupid?!" - Kyousuke thinks about how often he has been called stupid today. He is too lazy to translate the meaning of that "are you stupid" and he doesn't know, whether he is on the mark, anyway. - "By the way, Kanako said, that even when we stand together, we don't seem like lovers." - "Is that so." Kyousuke thinks it's impressive that Kirino still remembers such things. - "Ah, that's a pity." "....you... want us to look like a couple? ....uah~ Really disgusting." - Kyousuke says that with so many couples around them, it won't be too embarassing to act a little like a couple. - Kirino: "Aha, by the way... you seem a little bit narcissistic lately". "Ha?" - Kirino walks in a position that is neither close, nor separate to Kyousuke. He turns a little to look at her, and she does the same. - Kirino says that through their interaction their misunderstandings were cleared up and she now knows how he wants to have a better relationship with her. - "But... and then?" "..." - Kirino stops, drops her head and says: "D.. Don't act like a boyfriend, though." "No, I wasn't ~~~~~" "Ha? You clearly were" "I wasn't!" "You super were~" She quotes him and says how he treated this cute imouto as a girlfriend. - "I mean, I didn't have this intention!" - "Then, what did you mean?" - "I did not have any intention. [...] Rather it is you who is so sensitive." - "?!? N.. No, I wasn't sensitive" - "Ha, you clearly were." "You super were~" Kyousuke teases her, about how she was sensitive and tries to rub it off him. - Kirino gets angry (but also embarrassed) due to Kyousuke mimicking her, and says, how can he say something like that, no need to anger her on purpose. - Kyousuke says, that's something he should say and thinks to himself that she has hit herself in the process. - Bystander: "Ah, this couple is really cute" - "Live broadcast of a couple's fight~~~" - Both: "Ah..." "Quickly... let's go."