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Roger Rambo · 2013-06-19, 17:08

Well HOT damn. Microsoft game division is absolutely terrified about all this stuff that's been happening lately to completely 180 on game trading and DRM like this.

FlareKnight · 2013-06-19, 17:14

While I'm still not going to get one, this is good news. If the XBone did implode completely then Sony would really be the only one left standing and they'd get lazy. If this hurts Microsoft enough for them to know better going forward while still leaving them as a competitor that's fine.

Let's just hope they don't pull a 180 on their policies after they get some consoles sold. And yeah, the Kinect always connected is still creepy.

ThereminVox · 2013-06-19, 17:16

Great news for gamers. Honestly, the region lock 180 was the bigger shock to me. I knew MS had to backtrack, but this was a complete reversal.

Destined_Fate · 2013-06-19, 17:34

http://kotaku.com/surprise-xbox-one-...atch-514419715

It seems that due to the policy changes they have scrapped Family Share and maybe even other unknown features.

The XBox One still requires that when you first boot it up you're connected to the internet to release the lock. So those outside the 21 supported Countries shouldn't bother trying to import a XBox One as it will not work for you due to that requirement.

Nofear3838 · 2013-06-19, 17:36

Just another way to prove how great competition is. A lot of damage has already been done, but at least the race will be somewhat closer.

Destined_Fate · 2013-06-19, 17:38

Eh, the lack of RPGs/Strategy games on the 360 compared to the much larger library on the PS3/PSP/DS for that department has convinced me that the XBox One isn't going to be a system that caters to my interest. That and nearly all the Japanese games I imported were on the PS3 and PSP and the DS SRW games.

So my mind isn't changed over this as I was never the type of consumer they even wanted in the first place.

My brother in the military should at least get his Halo in now. I'll have to unlock the XBox One for him if he's unable to before being sent overseas.

Chase · 2013-06-19, 17:41

Good first step. Now they need to start firing folks.

defki · 2013-06-19, 17:57

So Xbox 180 is trending on Twitter.

Well I think we now have a new nickname.

Dextro · 2013-06-19, 17:58

Btw notice that the 1 is actually better than the 360 now. The same set of restrictions apply except region locking which is good news if we get more stuff like the original idolm@ster. (yeah, I know that there's a better chance of hell freezing over but it's still something worth pointing out)

kenjiharima · 2013-06-19, 18:07

There will be strings attached to the policy on Xbone, one way or the other.

synaesthetic · 2013-06-19, 18:09

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Originally Posted by Destined_Fate

The XBox One still requires that when you first boot it up you're connected to the internet to release the lock. So those outside the 21 supported Countries shouldn't bother trying to import a XBox One as it will not work for you due to that requirement.

Proxy server or a VPN with an exit point in one of the supported countries. Done and done.

kenjiharima · 2013-06-19, 18:27

YouTube

https://youtu.be/DWkBlWFu6HU

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defki · 2013-06-19, 18:27

http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/19/xbox...omplete-story/

And the spin begins...

Quote:

Finally, Whitten could not give any reassurance that Microsoft will not change its policies in the future.

Don't even think about pulling this bullshit.

GDB · 2013-06-19, 18:29

If they sell it as not requiring the check-in, not barring used games, etc., and then reverse it once it's out... I can only imagine the millions of lawsuits they'll be slammed with.

Alchemist007 · 2013-06-19, 18:31

I don't quite understand the startup internet requirement, what does it accomplish?

kenjiharima · 2013-06-19, 18:32

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Originally Posted by Alchemist007

I don't quite understand the startup internet requirement, what does it accomplish?

It still needs an internet connection once. So it's not really an offline console.

YouTube

https://youtu.be/ooaN96SkheE

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GDB · 2013-06-19, 18:33

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Originally Posted by Alchemist007

I don't quite understand the startup internet requirement, what does it accomplish?

To run the initial patch to disable the 24-hour check-in, game restrictions, etc.

defki · 2013-06-19, 18:37

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Originally Posted by GDB

If they sell it as not requiring the check-in, not barring used games, etc., and then reverse it once it's out... I can only imagine the millions of lawsuits they'll be slammed with.

Isn't MS safe from being sued if they change their policy again?

kenjiharima · 2013-06-19, 18:37

So they're updating the firmware. That's good for them.

GDB · 2013-06-19, 18:50

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Originally Posted by Vigo

Isn't MS safe from being sued if they change their policy again?

How would they be? They sell you a product under the premise that it operates a certain way. If they change that policy so that it no longer works that way, and you can no longer use said product, how would they be safe from being sued?

This is different from when the PS3 removed linux support. That was a single function of the product. This would be the entirety of the product's ability to be used.

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Dextro He Without a Title Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The land of tempura	Btw notice that the 1 is actually better than the 360 now. The same set of restrictions apply except region locking which is good news if we get more stuff like the original idolm@ster. (yeah, I know that there's a better chance of hell freezing over but it's still something worth pointing out) __________________

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kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	There will be strings attached to the policy on Xbone, one way or the other. __________________ Vampire+Sisters

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ThereminVox Guess what time it is? Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Age: 38	Great news for gamers. Honestly, the region lock 180 was the bigger shock to me. I knew MS had to backtrack, but this was a complete reversal.

2013-06-19, 17:34	Link #1544
Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	http://kotaku.com/surprise-xbox-one-...atch-514419715 It seems that due to the policy changes they have scrapped Family Share and maybe even other unknown features. The XBox One still requires that when you first boot it up you're connected to the internet to release the lock. So those outside the 21 supported Countries shouldn't bother trying to import a XBox One as it will not work for you due to that requirement.

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Nofear3838 Hainiryuun Join Date: Apr 2010 Age: 33	Just another way to prove how great competition is. A lot of damage has already been done, but at least the race will be somewhat closer.

2013-06-19, 17:38	Link #1546
Destined_Fate Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: "Sacrifice one to appease the few."	Eh, the lack of RPGs/Strategy games on the 360 compared to the much larger library on the PS3/PSP/DS for that department has convinced me that the XBox One isn't going to be a system that caters to my interest. That and nearly all the Japanese games I imported were on the PS3 and PSP and the DS SRW games. So my mind isn't changed over this as I was never the type of consumer they even wanted in the first place. My brother in the military should at least get his Halo in now. I'll have to unlock the XBox One for him if he's unable to before being sent overseas.

2013-06-19, 17:57	Link #1548
defki Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008	So Xbox 180 is trending on Twitter. Well I think we now have a new nickname.

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