2008-10-11, 03:34 | Link #361 | |
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the Minmay from the DYRL was very different from the one in SDFM. the things he had planned for Sheryl changed a lot during the TV series. two possibilities for the movie, He could change Ranka to be completely different from the TV series and leave Sheryl as she is; or he could change Sheryl to his original vision and leave ranka the same. |
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2008-10-11, 12:17 | Link #363 | |
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He didn't know what to do with both characters. Basically, this man said he lost track of both characters during the series' process, and did not know how to handle the situation, thus he got someone who was better than him to fix the problem. - Tak
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2008-10-11, 12:38 | Link #364 | |
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2008-10-11, 12:49 | Link #365 |
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Heck, possibilities, possibilities. We can muster up tones of them right now. Kawamori may well change the designs of VF-25 if he wants. He can even make Alto a girl and have an updated version of his 'dream come true' love love triangle.
We can say that he was so surprised with how Frontier turned out, how much attention and support Sheryl and Alto received and how 'good they looked' together that he wanted to recreate Frontier into something that could have a better ending for two of them. The way series developed had no real chances to have a proper resolution and besides, they already had the script for the ending. All of this may be true or complete nonsense for all we know.
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What he did not realize, was that this woman carried the burden of the show all the way through the very end, and her development with Alto sort of placed everyone else on the sidelines. This incident made things go a bit... nuts. Quote:
Never mind that most Japanese posters on the BBS were like "they did it, they did it!!" To say that he does not initiate anything is also not true, after all, he is the one who always goes to see her. - Tak
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2008-10-11, 14:11 | Link #367 | |
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Unfortunately, Ranka never returned the same respect and love to Sheryl. Worse, by the end of 25, she showed no remorse nor responsibility for her actions and behavior. - Tak
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2008-10-11, 15:01 | Link #372 |
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I actually feel sorry for her when the Vajra starts attacking the city right after her concert. I understand that it must be hell to be in her position, with the fate of her people on her shoulders. I can only imagine how hard that must be, so I don't blame her for spacing out or for the failure of her song during that time. As minor as it may seem to be, seeing Sheryl with Alto is a shock to her nonetheless.
The problem for me is her attitude. I guess I just want her to have at least some sense of personal responsibility. It doesn't help that as she recovers from shock she thinks about how the warmth of Alto's hand reminds her of Brera... all the while Nanase has been injured and is rescued away. I don't think that making the viewers feel sorry for her is the right way to go. In fact, it's already hard to feel sorry for her when she's lovestruck most of the time. She has to do something, or be something, that viewers can truly admire and cheer her for. The problem is, I think that requires a major rewrite. Last edited by kujoe; 2008-10-11 at 15:36. |
2008-10-11, 15:14 | Link #374 | |
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I cannot feel sorry for her because if there was anything she saw in humanity, it was pretty much just Alto. In Ranka vision, he was the only person out of the masses that Ranka could distinguish as an individual. Most of the time when she went onto missions, she did it for him, thus making her responsibility quite light considering the feelings of rest of humanity were more or less a by product of her desire to do everything for Alto. - Tak
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2008-10-11, 16:16 | Link #375 | |
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2008-10-11, 16:48 | Link #377 | |
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I don't understand why ppl are blaming Ranka for messing up when Vajra attacks inside Frontier (the episode Micheal dies)
She did feel sad when she thought Alto and Sheryl embraced each other, that's understandable. She then refused to sing, but after Sheryl's "encouragement" XD, she decided to sing. Now I guess the critics come and say she messed up and got Vajra enraged instead, but the question is, did Ranka know the reason why she messed up? At that episode, no one knows why the song didn't work. Luca thought it wasn't loud enough (from the sub I watched) and Sheryl didn't know either. Only Grace knows the emotion wasn't in the song and that's why Ranka messed up. I think Ranka has already tried her best to do the job. Quote:
So ppl can question why she refused to sing until Sheryl's "encouragement". She probably got confused but I think ppl are being too harsh by saying she caused chaos into Frontier...sry for the long post |
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2008-10-11, 17:11 | Link #378 | |
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I also try to understand or imagine the turmoil of what she's going through. I think she's somewhat aware of the burden that's has been laid on to her. I mean, if she weren't, then she wouldn't complain and lament the fact that she's been used as a weapon in the first place. I do think however, that her heart has been in the wrong place when it comes to such a responsibility. She just wants to sing for Alto, and that's it. With Nanase getting injured, Sheryl singing for the refugees, Michael's death, it's so hard to feel good or sorry for her at this point when everybody else—soldier and civilian alike—are on the same boat, trying to survive. As a viewer, I can't help but respond this way to such events, or drama as you yourself put it. |
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2008-10-11, 22:51 | Link #379 | |
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What I am trying to say is that, under that extreme situation, Ranka has already tried to do the best she can. Yes, it may be reasonable to question her why she refused to sing in the first place (I think she got confused), but, from my point of view, ever since she accepts to sing, she has done nothing wrong. And she has shown that she has a sense of responsiblity by singing alone in front of millions of Vajra in the next eposide. As for the moment when Nanesse gets injured, I think Ranka is too shocked, and she can't think of anything. When Alto holds her hand, her memory pops up and she can't control that lol. Just my thought XD |
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2008-10-12, 06:04 | Link #380 | |
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Alto is just shy though about being seen together with Sheryl. I wouldnt brag about it either if my gf was the galactic fairy, imagine the uproar and the horde of paparrazi it would attract
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