2013-03-22, 09:47 | Link #1081 | |
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She was so freaking adorable that it makes me really mad to know I won't see it in the anime. I agree with Konja, in fact it seemed to me that the anime was trying too hard to convince us that Mahiro and Yoshino have to be in the fight despite that in the manga they stayed in the city. They created more drama than necessary, but I hope they don't rush Hanemura vs Tree of Genesis
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2013-03-22, 22:11 | Link #1084 | |
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That filler flashback was then used to springboard Okada's idea that Yoshino and Mahiro wanted to participate in a warzone because they somehow felt useless as if Aika didn't care about their feelings when she killed herself. Of course, that sort of contradicts the canon, because Aika did give up her life for them. The fact she was told of a future where they turned out alive and fine is the reason why she thought it was worth giving up her life. But of course she is wrong now because Okada felt like getting Yoshino shot just to create drama, as if any drama is good for the story. It also makes no sense how Mahiro would want a bigger role in the plan when he is the mastermind behind the plan itself. I'm supposed to believe Mahiro feels unimportant when he's one of the central figures behind the operation? Come on, Okada. |
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2013-03-22, 22:48 | Link #1085 | |
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However, your statement reaffirm that Aika is a irrational psycho who wants to be in Ophelia's shoes. It's why the princess of logic wants to stop Aika. Also, the new mage of Zetsuen wants to punch Mahiro and Yoshino. They try to act cool about Aika's deed. If Aika is willing, such as not killing her parents and herself, there will be happy ending. Her act leads to Samon's genocide act. To awake the tree of Zetsuen, Samon causes the death of most world population. If Aika is alive, she can stop him. She can prevent the tree from turning people into metals. Her act indirectly kill Yoshinoya's parents. It's not happy ending as her belief. Because of the chaos since Aika's deed, the tree of beginning steps in as a Savior(in the sense of Fist of North Steps). Samon's genocide leaves the world in disorder. The violent people start acting as motorcycle riding punks from Fist of North Stars. The tree erases them as Death Note. So, the world's survivor can live in peace. So, Aika should apologize as Hakaze's appreciation. Hakaze thanks Yoshinoya by exposing herself to Yoshinoya. To make things fair, Aika should also strips herself to the butt naked level. She should try to squeeze her chest with arms while listening to Yoshinoya's comment, "small oppai is not a oppai".
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2013-03-23, 04:11 | Link #1086 | |
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Yoshino encounters Aika when she arrives at their town, he approached her because previously Mahiro talked about his new sister and showed Yoshino Aika' photo.
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2013-03-23, 07:28 | Link #1087 | |
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I totally agree about the strange behavior of Mahiro. Last edited by Konja7; 2013-03-23 at 10:42. |
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2013-03-23, 08:15 | Link #1088 |
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It's interesting to find out now that apparently Mahiro and Yoshino didn't take part in the actual operation in the manga, because when I was watching the ep it just seemed so odd and tacked on the way they did that in the anime. It didn't make sense for them to go on the mission.
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2013-03-23, 10:57 | Link #1089 |
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I'll be honest and go against the prevailing opinion. I don't care if Mahiro and Yoshino didn't take part in the final attack in the manga. I don't care if it's logical that Mahiro and Yoshino shouldn't take part in the final attack. I would have felt emotionally let down if they weren't a part of the attack force. They have been my central focus since the beginning. If they weren't in the center of the attack, the attack would feel empty at its core to me. I gasped when Yoshino was shot and spent the next half-hour wondering how he would survive such a bad wound when there's no healing magic left after the tree's destruction. Without the anime alterations, I doubt I would have had those visceral reactions.
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2013-03-23, 11:59 | Link #1090 |
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Why do these shows' threads always end up just being complaints by manga/light novel readers? I've said it for years, and I'll keep saying it. Separate threads for shows with pre-existing material would make things so much nicer.
The AV Club did this for Game of Thrones, and it was fantastic. Those who couldn't separate the novel from the tv series got to stew in their misery all separate from those who got to actually talk about the tv series.
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2013-03-23, 12:06 | Link #1091 |
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The point wasn't that it was different. The point was that this original material being written all to build up Yoshino getting shot is forced drama that puts both boys out of character.
Mahiro managed out fool the navy perfectly with his plan and get Hanemura to the Tree of Genesis, yet he couldn't be bothered to check his own hostages for weapons? If Yoshino has to get shot because of poor writing just for the sake of drama, I'd rather he didn't do anything at all. |
2013-03-23, 17:38 | Link #1092 |
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Personally, I am more bothered by the pool scene rather than Yoshino getting shot.
I find Yoshino to be overtly OOC there that I was literally dumbfounded by that scene. I am actually fine with those two being there, but please give us a reason that is consistent to their character. |
2013-03-24, 01:08 | Link #1094 |
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Several people complained about the source material. After hearing so many complaints, I'm not bothered by the new twist in anime. Throughout the story, the characters mentioned about the happy ending several times. Yoshino's fatal wound would lead to another direction. So, you can think it as a good surprise. It's somewhat ironic. It is as Yoshino is awkward around girls, but he receives a bag of chocolate from girls. Also, it happens a day after Hakaze's in-your-face love confession. It resembles Yoshino's death flag. However, I doubt it is the end of Yoshino.
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2013-03-24, 10:32 | Link #1096 | |
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Mahiro can be very intense several times, but he usually follows the logic. If logic implies that he would not be necessary and can be a nuisance, he will abide by that logic (something similar applies in the case of Yoshino). |
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2013-03-24, 10:38 | Link #1097 | |
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Yoshino, it's hard to say. He could well feel powerless, but on the other hand, what he wants is for the story not to turn out to be a tragedy, given that Aika gave her life for it. So if he thought that the mission would be more likely to succeed with someone else on it, I'm not sure he would prefer to go himself. Also, there would be a risk that if anything happened to him, Hakaze could be distracted and flub the mission. |
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2013-03-24, 11:21 | Link #1098 | |
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I did not express myself well. Although I think Yoshino feels powerless, he still follow the logic (he can sacrifice his feelings in favor of what he thinks is better). The logic implies that he would not be necessary and can be a nuisance. |
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2013-03-25, 09:42 | Link #1099 |
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Yeah. I just watched the episode and felt that their putting on those goofy masks and going on that mission when they could cause it to fail was totally random. But when he got shot and Mahiro screamed his name, I couldn't help but roll my eyes. I never read the manga but I was bloody damn certain that was unnecessary anime-original drama.
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2013-03-28, 00:12 | Link #1100 | |
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That's the whole purpose of the Genesis Tree and it would have thrown down that deadline to humanity whether or not Aika did anything. You still don't get the purpose of the Genesis Tree. It's not some peacekeeping policeman
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