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Regarding Strong Agnosticism Vs. Atheists and Theists, it really is simply about Facts vs. Theories, Practicality vs. Imagination, Inside the box vs. Outside the box, Ball vs. Spike, and Scientific Conservative vs. Scientific Flexibility---in other words, individual personalities/backgrounds. I'm confused, so can everybody kindly answer this question: Can supernatural beings' existence be logically disproved? If so, how? |
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So, unless someone proves the existence of parallel universes and their interactivity and that the laws there are different, then there is no way to prove or disprove the existence of such beings. In the story I wrote about God, Earth is a videogame and God is both programmer and player. This sort of makes a simplified example of what a parallel world or a supernatural being is. The characters don't see God, yet he interacts with them by clicking commands. He affects them, they don't affect him. Time flows differently as when he stops playing time freezes and he can always fastforward the game speed. The characters can never enter reality, nor they realize the limits of their own dimension. Thus God in a way does exist outside time and space and can affect the universe despite never being seen. |
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I didn't understand the relation of this topic to your "game" but your answer is No, no? |
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Nothing, absolutely nothing can exist outside of time and space. There is time within a "stopped time". There is also space within a "no-space". One may be able to control time...but that entity will not be able to control "his/her" own time. As long as he operates (doesn't matter if everyone else doesn't), he's time moves.
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Ok guys now you are going to the realm of false opposite matter (or whatever they call it). Many things exist and have their opposite term which does not exist. For example, real has as an opposite the unreal/fictional. Something that is real exists; something that is unreal does not. Yet, through fiction things that do not exist can come into existence. Like the airplane. It was fictional until it was invented.
Another example is light. Its opposite is darkness. Darkness does not exist. It is the absence of light. It is a state of the same phenomenon. This is also why they say Abrahamic religions are NOT dualistic. Good and evil are not two opposite and equal forces. The devil is not equal to God. Evil is actually the absence of good. That means, unless we can be sure if through fiction something supernatural cannot be made natural, we have no right disproving it. I mean, television would seem like a crazy and impossible thing a few centuries ago. And no one predicted the internet or the cell phones to such degree and fast spread in any sci-fi scenario of the past. Such things were supernatural in a way because the technology and the mindset were not there. |
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With humans and anything relating to "reality", there is nothing universal. That "Law" isn't "Universal" as you think it is. Its just a name to group a list of constant variables.
"Nothing is impossible" is a paradox. There are always impossibilities. To theists: if god can truly do anything, what's the purpose of our existence? why does it take time for anything to happen? There is "our" laws, there is "his" laws. There is also "everyone's" laws...we just don't know these laws..perhaps we will never. |
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Yes but spliting the atom was also something impossible up until 60 years ago. So was to consider time and space to actually connect in one. Furthermore, nobody could accept such theories prior to their innovation. They were considered supernatural. Things we consider supernatural today may not be tommorow.
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