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jal90 · 2013-09-03, 16:08

Right now I'm suffering the exact contrary process. I am still quite casual but my interest is growing...

I know there will be a moment in my life where I'm not anymore into anime, and maybe I will be able to retake it some years later. Like everything in life, hobbies/interests are not destined to be permanent, but rather to change.

Then again if the discussion is going to be about the current state of the industry then I guess my opinion is not very reliable; since being still casual means that I'm not ready to make a proper analysis on the evolution of anime as a whole. I can say that it is equally difficult for me to find a good anime now in 2013 than back in 2009 when I got into it, but that's it. I don't specifically look for newer or older stuff when I decide what to watch, just what my mood dictates.

***relentlessflame*** · 2013-09-03, 17:18

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Originally Posted by jal90

Like everything in life, hobbies/interests are not destined to be permanent, but rather to change.

Well, while I can see how interest in keeping up with whatever's hot/trendy with the "kids these days" may wane over time, to me anime is a medium not a genre. As long as there are interesting stories to be told (which I don't see changing), I'm not sure that I'd lose interest simply by virtue of it being animated in Japan. Then again, I'm not sure that I've totally lost interest in any of my other hobbies either, they just don't get as much time as they used to.

jal90 · 2013-09-03, 17:23

I didn't say otherwise. In fact if I'm able to enjoy anime it's because it is a medium; therefore being able to fit my mood in more ways than a single genre would. But still, I think it has some cohesion as a whole. I actually equal watching anime to watching live action or whatever kind of movies, or to actively listening at music, or reading novels.

Puddingman · 2013-09-03, 19:55

It's interesting that you make the distinction between medium and genre. It makes me think of music. Of the people I've met, the ones who were into a specific genre of music faded out their interest, but the ones who're into MUSIC as a whole are always changing and growing; keeping where they were from but exploring new places.

I can def vibe this with anime. The more open you are to different experiences the more likely you are to stick with it as a whole.

aohige · 2013-09-03, 23:41

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Originally Posted by jal90

Like everything in life, hobbies/interests are not destined to be permanent, but rather to change.

Manga has been my choice of hobby for thirty years.
I don't see myself dropping it anytime in my life time.

Vexx · 2013-09-03, 23:51

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Originally Posted by aohige

Manga has been my choice of hobby for thirty years.
I don't see myself dropping it anytime in my life time.

Aye, manga and light novels for the long term. Currently, I'm not watching more than 1-3 anime series a season and often I'm waiting until it's done so I can marathon and decide if it warrants the attention.

Fireminer · 2013-09-03, 23:58

Well, I think "Change" might means that you should accept the shift in style and plotline.

But do you guys think one of the reason for manga and novel could last long is because their distingtive characteristic to each other?

Vexx · 2013-09-04, 00:01

I think it's because they're books. I have to wonder about someone who grows out of books.

More seriously, written works (even manga) convey subtlety and nuance better. They can cover more complex relationships, plots, etc.

That's something *any* visual medium has difficulty matching.

aohige · 2013-09-04, 00:07

it's not really because of which is more expressive, although sure, that's a part of it.

It really comes down to volume and range.
Manga covers a vast, VAST range of readership demographics, that there's no reason to "out grow" it.

Anime on the other hand, the vast majority of demand is for younger audience, and hence, extremely focused to cater the specific demographics. Like I said in another thread, popular seinen manga tend to become live action drama series instead of animation, largely due to the catering of demographics.

Anime can be out grown, the older you become, the less number of titles to cater to your interest, but manga is completely on different level of content.
I mean like incomparably larger. There are ten thousand different tankoubon collected manga volumes published a year.
Over 300 manga magazines are in publication.

Triple_R · 2013-09-04, 00:13

I vaguely recall reading somewhere that manga in Japan cuts through all the demographic boundaries. Kids, teenagers, salarymen, adult women, College students, there are some manga aimed at each of them.

Novels, at least in the western world, are much the same. There's novels for kids, for teenagers, for adults, for every sort of genre, gender, and age category imaginable.

Manga and novels are aimed at the masses. Nobody would say they've "grown out of novels", because its widely understood that novels is for the masses of all age and gender categories. People may lose interest in novels, but they don't "grow out of it".

jal90 · 2013-09-04, 01:01

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Originally Posted by aohige

Manga has been my choice of hobby for thirty years.
I don't see myself dropping it anytime in my life time.

Of course there have to be tons of exceptions

My point is that anime is not something you can grow out of (I really hate that expression); but rather shift interests. And that it's only natural.

Marcus H. · 2014-02-16, 22:08

As long as my backlog is nonzero, I will not stop watching anime.

arilando · 2016-02-07, 14:02

Doesn't the number of old accounts in this very thread that are no longer active show that quite a few people do get tired of or "grow out of" anime?

Tempester · 2016-02-07, 14:29

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Originally Posted by arilando

Doesn't the number of old accounts in this very thread that are no longer active show that quite a few people do get tired of or "grow out of" anime?

Well, one's activity in ASuki and other communities does not necessarily correlate to how much one enjoys anime. Especially since ASuki's actively in general lately has been slowing down significantly.

Archon_Wing · 2016-02-12, 03:06

Wha... Well, maybe certain kinds of anime like "fanservice = breasts" kind!

SPARTAN 119 · 2016-02-12, 14:07

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Originally Posted by Archon_Wing

Wha... Well, maybe certain kinds of anime like "fanservice = breasts" kind!

Of course, once you gain more mature tastes, you realize that the most attractive part of the female body can be summed up in two words: DAT ASS!

But in all seriousness, while some anime purely for fanservice of the breast and panty shot variety, I could see people growing out of, I doubt I will be growing out of anime any time soon. As for my thoughts on those type of anime- I always looked for something more than random flashes of breasts or panties in my anime, and generally watched for the plot or at least one or more characters I liked.

Akito Kinomoto · 2016-02-12, 14:13

You're never too old to ogle Chinese cartoons. You can lose the time to ogle Chinese cartoons though

But anyway, I've seen enough people 'grow out' of this hobby when they were clearly entering the 'anime isn't fun anymore!' phase and didn't know where to look. Woe to the search engine

IceHism · 2016-02-12, 17:22

That's like saying you're going to grow out of films, books, or music. Aka, you don't. Your taste just gets more selective as you lose more time

GDiddy · 2016-02-12, 18:00

I've been a fan for probably about fifteen years. My interest comes and goes, but I haven't grown completely out of anime quite yet....

though it's becoming more of a pain to watch everything

Archon_Wing · 2016-02-12, 20:18

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Originally Posted by SPARTAN 119

Of course, once you gain more mature tastes, you realize that the most attractive part of the female body can be summed up in two words: DAT ASS!

But in all seriousness, while some anime purely for fanservice of the breast and panty shot variety, I could see people growing out of, I doubt I will be growing out of anime any time soon. As for my thoughts on those type of anime- I always looked for something more than random flashes of breasts or panties in my anime, and generally watched for the plot or at least one or more characters I liked.

Well, that's on the right track I'd say.

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Puddingman Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Age: 35	It's interesting that you make the distinction between medium and genre. It makes me think of music. Of the people I've met, the ones who were into a specific genre of music faded out their interest, but the ones who're into MUSIC as a whole are always changing and growing; keeping where they were from but exploring new places. I can def vibe this with anime. The more open you are to different experiences the more likely you are to stick with it as a whole. __________________

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Vexx Obey the Darkly Cute ... Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ... Age: 66	I think it's because they're books. I have to wonder about someone who grows out of books. More seriously, written works (even manga) convey subtlety and nuance better. They can cover more complex relationships, plots, etc. That's something any visual medium has difficulty matching. __________________ "It Really IS Rocket Science", Novel series rough drafts; vol. 1 thru vol. 3 complete Volume 4 in work, Visit the thread for short stories!

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aohige ( ಠ_ಠ) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep	it's not really because of which is more expressive, although sure, that's a part of it. It really comes down to volume and range. Manga covers a vast, VAST range of readership demographics, that there's no reason to "out grow" it. Anime on the other hand, the vast majority of demand is for younger audience, and hence, extremely focused to cater the specific demographics. Like I said in another thread, popular seinen manga tend to become live action drama series instead of animation, largely due to the catering of demographics. Anime can be out grown, the older you become, the less number of titles to cater to your interest, but manga is completely on different level of content. I mean like incomparably larger. There are ten thousand different tankoubon collected manga volumes published a year. Over 300 manga magazines are in publication. __________________

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Triple_R Senior Member Author Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Age: 42	I vaguely recall reading somewhere that manga in Japan cuts through all the demographic boundaries. Kids, teenagers, salarymen, adult women, College students, there are some manga aimed at each of them. Novels, at least in the western world, are much the same. There's novels for kids, for teenagers, for adults, for every sort of genre, gender, and age category imaginable. Manga and novels are aimed at the masses. Nobody would say they've "grown out of novels", because its widely understood that novels is for the masses of all age and gender categories. People may lose interest in novels, but they don't "grow out of it". __________________

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Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	As long as my backlog is nonzero, I will not stop watching anime. __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

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jal90 Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Spain Age: 33	Right now I'm suffering the exact contrary process. I am still quite casual but my interest is growing... I know there will be a moment in my life where I'm not anymore into anime, and maybe I will be able to retake it some years later. Like everything in life, hobbies/interests are not destined to be permanent, but rather to change. Then again if the discussion is going to be about the current state of the industry then I guess my opinion is not very reliable; since being still casual means that I'm not ready to make a proper analysis on the evolution of anime as a whole. I can say that it is equally difficult for me to find a good anime now in 2013 than back in 2009 when I got into it, but that's it. I don't specifically look for newer or older stuff when I decide what to watch, just what my mood dictates.

2013-09-03, 17:23	Link #483
jal90 Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Spain Age: 33	I didn't say otherwise. In fact if I'm able to enjoy anime it's because it is a medium; therefore being able to fit my mood in more ways than a single genre would. But still, I think it has some cohesion as a whole. I actually equal watching anime to watching live action or whatever kind of movies, or to actively listening at music, or reading novels.

2013-09-03, 23:58	Link #487
Fireminer Lumine Passio Author Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanoi, Vietnam Age: 18	Well, I think "Change" might means that you should accept the shift in style and plotline. But do you guys think one of the reason for manga and novel could last long is because their distingtive characteristic to each other?

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arilando Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Denmark	Doesn't the number of old accounts in this very thread that are no longer active show that quite a few people do get tired of or "grow out of" anime?

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IceHism Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014	That's like saying you're going to grow out of films, books, or music. Aka, you don't. Your taste just gets more selective as you lose more time

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GDiddy Sisterhood of the Desu Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: in a van by the river	I've been a fan for probably about fifteen years. My interest comes and goes, but I haven't grown completely out of anime quite yet.... though it's becoming more of a pain to watch everything __________________