2007-08-15, 22:33 | Link #1401 | |
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2007-08-15, 22:50 | Link #1402 | ||
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Wow, thx to both of you. So this is how it is changed... |
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2007-08-17, 00:31 | Link #1404 |
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i think this has been asked but oh well =P
1. the masters in FSN fate route Shirou, Kuzuki, Rin, IIya, Bazette ( owned by Kotomine and he takes over her place ) and Shinji. Therefore there's only 6 Master =-= I am puzzled by this, unless Caster is considered a master zzz pls explain. Gil can be considered as a Servant as well? Even if he aint summoned by the HG? If thats true then any Servant that obtained a 2nd life will have to take part in the next war ? 2. In fate route, Gil said in order for the HG to appear, 6 Servants must be defeated thats why he kills Lancer. So he take in account of Assasin as well... So in that case of some HGW, Caster can summon a Servant and gets killed along with that Servant, so there can be 2 remaining Servants left to obtain the HG together? Sorry its kinda complicating =/ 3. Why does Shirou and Saber want to destroy the HG at the end? It was revealed that the HG grants wishes through destruction so all the time Kotomine was talking bullshit? It was never able to grant a Servant a 2nd life? I maybe answering my own question so correct me if i am wrong. Shirou could have used the HG to make Saber stay but he saw her determination to keep her oath as the King so he decided that the HG should be destroyed as he does not have any other wish or than making Saber stay. |
2007-08-17, 02:18 | Link #1405 | |
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2) Lancer, Archer, Berserker, Caster, Assassin, and Rider were all defeated at that time. That is six. As said earlier, there cannot be more than seven Servants summoned in one ritual. 3) Saber found her answer at the end, so she doesn't feel the need to redo her life any more. Shirou wanted what was best for Saber. So, when they found out that it was evil they didn't have any reservations. However, Kotomine was telling the truth. |
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2007-08-17, 11:44 | Link #1406 | |||
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You are right, in the 5th HG war, since there are 8 servants, there are 2 servants that can obtain it together. Though since the HG only grants power to one person, its still natural that will fight to the death. Not to mention that Saber wants to kill Gilgamesh as her own will. Quote:
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2007-08-18, 01:29 | Link #1407 |
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thx for the replies guys. From what archer said, so killing Caster and Kuzuki is like eliminating 2 Masters since Caster is considered one as well. wow thats quite a deal =p
btw is the HG all the while like this, tainted? Consuming it will make Servants go nuts, with exception to Gil who is strong enough to resist it. I dont know much about Fate Zero so was Kirei a good guy at start but then consumed by the HG and he became a sick minded person? From what you guys said, Kotomine was telling the truth so, to price to pay for a Servant to enjoy a 2nd life is the loss of their sanity, isnt that right? Thats why Shirou/Saber has no hesitation to destroy it as they learn about what will happen if they consume it and the HG is dangerous ( destorys the world apart of its user ). If the HG wasnt tainted, Saber will still go back regardless if she can still have a 2nd life? Saber and Shirou could have leave the HG there and go on with their lifes but if i remember right, there's a risk of someone else touching it will might cause the fire again. However so, even if they destroy the HG, it is inevitable that there will always be another HGW as long as certain conditions are met right? sorry, i am very curious of about all of this =p |
2007-08-18, 06:25 | Link #1408 | ||||
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The HG was tainted in the 3rd HG war by an irregular servant, avanger, angry mayo. Quote:
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And I don't think Shirou/Saber/anyone will just leave the HG there. Afterall, you see a huge &%*#(@ hanging around and know leaving it there will eventually destroy the world(and the loli in it), wouldn't you blow it up? Last edited by iamandragon; 2007-08-18 at 06:50. |
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2007-08-18, 10:57 | Link #1409 | |
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Gil wasn't tainted because his ego wouldn't allow him to; he thinks himself too powerful to be tainted by mere evil from the HG ("This little amount can taint me? Brong on at least 3 times as much!") And in case someone takes that seriously, angry mayo is Angra Mainyu, aka Avenger. |
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2007-08-18, 11:11 | Link #1410 | |||
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Upon the 3rd HG war, the irregular servant Avanger got defeated and was recovered by the HG. The curses on Avanger got mixed up with the mana and they are now inseparateable. So getting the mana = getting the evil of the whole world. Quote:
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2007-08-19, 03:00 | Link #1412 |
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oh ic.. so Saber could have stayed but she will be consumed by the tainted HG and be nuts huh? sad..
so if the HG before that avenger thing happened, it wasnt tainted, Servants could have stayed without any loss of sanity? thx for the replies |
2007-08-19, 11:35 | Link #1413 |
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Depends on the master's wish, really. If the winner is not the Tohsaka/Einzbern/Matou, then it might be possible. If not, these three families, who are fighting in the HG war for the sake of completing the third, will use their final command seal to kill their own servants and summon the greater HG (which is an essential part of it) If the winner decides to not use the mana from the HG for any purpose, then, yes, having the servant stay is possible.
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2007-08-20, 05:19 | Link #1415 | |
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But that line he said about not wanting the HG because he already owned it is still screwing with my mind >.< Yeah, I've actually seen people take it seriously, that's why. |
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2007-08-29, 16:33 | Link #1417 |
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I'm new to this fate stay night, I'm not really one to watch anime nor TV at that matter but my friend told me to watch it, and i cant get enough of it. Anyway my question is: is there a fate stay night 2 or something? like a sequel? any sort of movies.
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2007-08-29, 19:47 | Link #1419 | |
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So basically anything that relates to Fate Stay Night isn't in English and wont be for some time huh...... So there is nothing?? Nothing at all?? |
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2007-08-30, 00:58 | Link #1420 | |
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As for the game...mirrormoon is translating it, you can play through the Fate route now, and its fun to watch the bad/dead ends. |
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