[MANGA] Bleach Chapter 419 Discussion

[MikeyGrey]

not to mention all bankai's arent the same. ichigo & hitsugaya are lucky that they got sustainable bankai's. a single shot one like soi fong's is a big risk to use... not only do u reveal ur abilities but also if u miss that 1 shot ull prolly be too tired for second.

[Mr. DJ]

Originally Posted by Haak

Despite having several chances to just kill Ichigo/leave him dead.

Well I suppose, Ulquiorra did regenerate his brain back eventually and blasted a hole into Ichigo again. Only plotpower had other ideas...

well, the first encounter was simply a recon mission of sorts

second encounter he did kill Ichigo/left him for dead

third encounter, he killed him again then plot power hax kicked in

[Chiisai Kuma]

Originally Posted by CuXe

Aizen's new Form....A beautiful butterfly mixed with:



And Strawberry-kun still looks confident ... Yeap, Kubo must have been aroused when he was coming up with Ichigo's brand new g-d mode...



Word.





I don't like you, and you don't like me............but just this once I have to agree with u; simply because that quote was so full of passion......... it literally brought tears to my eyes, u know, manly tears ....

</lulz>

Cas rulz btw... (just a few more days!!)

Compleatly agree with the alian bit. that pic came staight to my mind when i saw aizen

[secretzfan]

Originally Posted by koguma za

compleatly agree with the alian bit. That pic came staight to my mind when i saw aizen

terminator 3 Aizen

[Lenneth4]

Originally Posted by secretzfan

terminator 3 Aizen

Now I cant stop laughing dude.

[astrallionheart]

If Aizen became the terminator it's over for Ichigo.

After all the hoopla about Freeza being strong, Andoid 17 and 18 made a debut and Freeza in retrospect looked like a kid bringing his lunch money to Vegas.

[dragonmeister]

Originally Posted by astrallionheart

If Aizen became the terminator it's over for Ichigo.

If Aizen becomes on of the types of terminators from the last 2 films (Salvation doesn't exist in my mind), then Shiro-chan (or possibly Rukia) will finally be of use - freeze the liquid metal and stop him from reforming

[Wiggy Fuzz]

... then yamamoto starts a celebratory bonfire and melts the frozen liquid metal and the t-1000/t-x aizen reforms and starts killing everybody

...

back on topic, lets assume aizen didn't gain an increase in power after gin stabbed him, only a change in appearance (because aizen was already super powered to begin with), and the condom man aizen was at the same power level as bitch curl/clark kent aizen?

lets assume it was like that (because, really - you can't be more powerful as a cocoon, can you?

aizen's power level starts to make sense, and it would make him no more than twice as powerful as - say - yamamoto (prior to his latest transformation)

to me, this makes much more sense and puts everybody else into a more fairer perspective.

[astrallionheart]

Don't worry, all Shunsui has to do is release his bankai and Mystic Ichigo will be outclassed again, and Shunsui will be able to dodge all of Aizen's attacks and physically fight him on equal ground despite a bankai that does not enhance his physical abilities.

Then Aizen recycles his shikai again to dominate.

[secretzfan]

Originally Posted by astrallionheart

Don't worry, all Shunsui has to do is release his bankai and Mystic Ichigo will be outclassed again, and Shunsui will be able to dodge all of Aizen's attacks and physically fight him on equal ground despite a bankai that does not enhance his physical abilities.

Then Aizen recycles his shikai again to dominate.

But he can beat Yamamoto so umm even i Shusui or Ukatakie's bankai was cool and powerful they still can't beat Aizen

[astrallionheart]

Originally Posted by secretzfan

But he can beat Yamamoto so umm even i Shusui or Ukatakie's bankai was cool and powerful they still can't beat Aizen

As long as it's a sword fight we are talking about, Shunsui and Ukitake will be able to keep up with their opponents. I think they call this "level scaling" in RPGs.

[secretzfan]

Originally Posted by astrallionheart

As long as it's a sword fight we are talking about, Shunsui and Ukitake will be able to keep up with their opponents. I think they call this "level scaling" in RPGs.

Hmm a sword fight against Aizen and Shusui and Ukatkie would still win in bankai stateagianst a guy who can defeat even Yamamoto seems unlikely they'd win

[Knjaz]

Originally Posted by secretzfan

Hmm a sword fight against Aizen and Shusui and Ukatkie would still win in bankai stateagianst a guy who can defeat even Yamamoto seems unlikely they'd win

U forget Yamamoto was killed by his own flame (and its not like Aizen could use this trick everywhere - It'd be very different in open field or if Yama was ready to sacrifice civillians for killing Aizen) . It only proves that Yama-ji can kill Yama-ji. We dont know if Aizen posessed enough power to actually deal enough damage to take him down, while staying alive.

[secretzfan]

Originally Posted by Knjaz

U forget Yamamoto was killed by his own flame. It only proves that Yama-ji can kill Yama-ji. We dont know if Aizen posessed enough power to actually deal enough damage to take him down, while staying alive.

I guess we cannot say it is official unless the new Aizen fights Yamamto and beat the hell out of him, which I believe will happen unless Yamamoto goes bankai

[astrallionheart]

The key to beating Yamamoto is to wear a fire-retardant suit, because from what we've seen there's no indication that he's actually that useful in a sword fight. Also if his reaitsu was that great he'd be able to reject physical attacks easily, which obviously is not the case.

Then again if Mr Shunsui unaided by any buffs can keep up with the #1 released espada's speed and strength, anything is possible.

[secretzfan]

Originally Posted by astrallionheart

The key to beating Yamamoto is to wear a fire-retardant suit, because from what we've seen there's no indication that he's actually that useful in a sword fight. Also if his reaitsu was that great he'd be able to reject physical attacks easily, which obviously is not the case.

Then again if Mr Shunsui unaided by any buffs can keep up with the #1 released espada's speed and strength, anything is possible.

Yet but it is different if you look at Aizen's evolution then you'll see Aizen could easily beat Yamamoto. I mean look at cocoon Aizen he could defeat the old man

[Alchemist007]

We don't know what Yamaji could've done if he had his powers. Probably 1000x stronger than Ichigo is now (ok maybe not that strong).

[MisterJB]

Originally Posted by astrallionheart

The key to beating Yamamoto is to wear a fire-retardant suit,

Yes, well, good luck finding a fire-retardant suit that can protect you against the flames of Ryujin Jaka.
Also, Yamamoto can punch your brains out, just saying.

[secretzfan]

Originally Posted by MisterJB

Yes, well, good luck finding a fire-retardant suit that can protect you against the flames of Ryujin Jaka.
Also, Yamamoto can punch your brains out, just saying.

Isn't that caccon form kinda like a suit. I mean even if it wasn't heat resistant every attack hit Aizen can use that suit to survive it

Also I would like to say something on why I think Aizen's evolution is about to end.

My suspicions where confirmed when I saw Aizen as a butterfly the hogyoku is going through its own life cycle. First he is a shell then the haed comes out of the shell then add the wings to create a butterfly and fiannly completely break out the shell format to show your true self. It could go on, but not as long as you guys think, because when the shell is completely gone the metamorphosis would be nearly complete

[astrallionheart]

Originally Posted by MisterJB

Yes, well, good luck finding a fire-retardant suit that can protect you against the flames of Ryujin Jaka.
Also, Yamamoto can punch your brains out, just saying.

Really depends on how strong Aizen's back and shoulders are. You can always build something to withstand fire, but whether he's strong enough to carry it and still move is a different topic.