2012-07-04, 23:27 | Link #42 | |
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She seems to be the kind that probably mainly cares for her research than Joker's plan in my opinion. Something like Robin. She was with Crocidile mainly to achieve her goals, maybe the same is true for the Harpy lady . As luffy said, " How nostalgic". It seems like the whole Arabasta arc all over ( not that i am complaining, it was one my favorite arcs)
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2012-07-05, 01:59 | Link #44 | |
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You're one of the world's most wanted criminals.. can't retire just like that.
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2012-07-05, 02:13 | Link #45 | |
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also, who do you guys think doflamingo was talking to about the moriah assassination? it def wasnt vergo. i just assumed and still do that it was one of the yonko like kaido or big mama |
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2012-07-05, 02:15 | Link #46 | |
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He was explicitly threatening that character with leaving the Shichibukai.. I think it's safe to say that character is someone from the World Government..either a high official himself, or someone representing a high official (considering the lack of respect shown by Doflamingo).
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2012-07-05, 02:15 | Link #47 | |
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Edit: Paradox13 beat me to it.
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2012-07-05, 03:44 | Link #48 | |
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All I saw in this chapter was Vergo finally letting me know that it was a ham/burger on his cheek. But Wth? Why did it need to be there?? And Flamingo... hmmm..that's actually the first time I noticed the animal theme in Trafalgar. Good one there.
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2012-07-05, 05:50 | Link #49 | |
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maybe vergo would have a hotdog stuck to his cheek next?
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2012-07-05, 09:58 | Link #50 |
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Chapter 673
That was not a bad chapter. Luffy, Robin, Law, and Smoker are pretty calm for being captured. Out of all the devil fruit users, why is tashigi (who has smoker's body) having a hard time in the sea stone? Luffy, Robin, and Law look like they are doing just fine. Idiot move Vergo putting Luffy, Smoker, Law, and Tashigi together was stupid. Either he is a strong fighter or he is under estimating Straw Hats, Law, and Smoker. This is going to be a huge regret waiting to happen if and when they get out. Outcome The events of this chapter is turning out nice. If Vergo gets captured, true identity revealed, or dies (like Belamy), that would make Smoker the new and highest ranking officer at G-5. No doubt Smoker will get the credit for saving the kids and uncovering this mole (just like Alabasta). Joker (aka Doflamingo) has a lot riding on this arch. If it is found out that he has moles in the marines and WG, Fleet Admiral Akainu might not take kindly to this, him and the rest of the Marine never trusted the Pirate Warlords. WG might revoke his Shichibukai status. I also wonder how this whole fight will go between Vergo, CC Vs. Straw Hat, Law, and Smoker. Law's status is also in danger, his alliance with straw hat will not look good. |
2012-07-05, 10:39 | Link #51 | |
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Really now, saying Robin and Franky are a thing because they appear in a few scenes together and make "playful remarks" (which I fail to notice any BTW) is like saying Nami and...any other member of the crew are secretly "a thing" because they all have scenes together and they all have "playful remarks". |
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2012-07-05, 11:05 | Link #52 |
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Vergo's Powers
Now I could be mistaken but I recall Vergo's power of Law being displayed by the removal of Laws heart? or perhaps that was just an assumption from a forum discussion. If it is the case, combinig that would food he had previously eating being stuck to his face I'm led to think that perhaps his powers are like laws in that he has the ability to take things out of people, though it could be more then just people/organisms. As for the chapter Im happy to things escalate to the degree that they have, that CC didnt get owned silly immediately, that the glob is proving to be difficult and that so many big names have gotten involved in some really nasty stuff as this is the sort of thing i was hoping to see in the New World chapters. |
2012-07-05, 11:17 | Link #53 | ||
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While you make some valid points there, I still wouldn't rule out the possibility that Vergo was the one Dofla was speaking with, or at least someone working alongside Vergo. I think this really depends on just how well-connected Vergo is amongst the government's upper echelon. And considering that the guy had fifteen whole years to gain the position he has now, I can see him making many powerful allies from within the WG (who in turn would also support Doflamingo). It's not impossible, since we've seen other government officials who gained a lot of power due to being well-connected (like Spandam, for instance). But as for why Vergo would want Moria dead (considering he was the one to put the hit on him).... well, I admit that your guess is as good as mine there. The only thing that comes to my mind right now is that Moria might know some info that he would consider taboo (since it might jeopardize his position) and therefore wants to keep him "quiet". Sort of like why he currently distrusts CC, in other words. But again, this is only if we consider the possibility that he really WAS the guy Dofla was speaking to before the skip..... Quote:
Maybe because.... he distrusts him? Or did you forget how suspicious he got when Monet told him that Law and Luffy had a connection with each other before the skip? Besides, it's not like he was actually WRONG about his suspicions, anyway.... |
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2012-07-05, 12:47 | Link #54 | |
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Maybe they have only one seastone gaze.. My assumption is that seastone is quite rare and expensive material and so there never is many gazes, if we aren't inside of impeldown or similar place.
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2012-07-05, 12:52 | Link #55 |
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The man speaking with Dofla before time skip isn't Vergo for sure.
He was talking in a condensating speech, and never once spoke in formal or respectable way to Dofla. Vergo is a man obviously concerned with the way you speak to a superior, seeing from how he reacted to Law and his "gentleman" style.
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2012-07-05, 13:23 | Link #56 | |
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Indeed, the blue-bearded one is a truly helpful one, all right! But I'm still sticking with what I said about the guy Dofla was speaking with having a possible connection to Vergo....
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My guess is that the reason Luffy and Robin weren't struggling with the seastone was merely due to how much stronger they've gotten over the skip. But to be fair, neither Robin nor Smoker showed any obvious reaction to seastone even before the skip (Smoker was even able to whack Luffy with his jutte in the Alabasta seastone prison, and Robin had no problem moving around in her seastone cuffs at Enies Lobby). I'm not surprised that Tashigi's unable to handle it, though..... she IS currently stuck in a body that she isn't used to, after all. Quote:
True, this arc is showing some parallels to Alabasta. But as far as Dofla losing his status goes..... well, recall that in the pre-skip scene we were just discussing, he clearly showed that he gave no crap whether or not he remains a warlord (he even said that he'd willingly quit HIMSELF). But I do imagine that Vergo being exposed as the mole might be a huge setback for him. As far as Law goes, things are a bit more unclear. If he actually helps in apprehending CC and toppling Vergo then IMO it's more likely that the government would publicly praise him as a hero and turn a blind eye over his alliance with Luffy and whatever plan he's cooking up at PH. After all, it's pretty clear to that the WG are more concerned with saving face than anything else (just look at how they hushed up something as huge a freaking MASS JAILBREAK, for crying out loud)..... Quote:
A lot of people have this impression that seastone is rare, but I don't think that's really the case. All we know about it is that supposedly it can only be found in one specific ocean in the world. If that's the case, I'd say that it's more uncommon than flat-out rare (since for all we know, seastone may be be abundant in whatever sea it came from). And frankly, I doubt that a substance that can even be found in the sky islands would be THAT rare.... |
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2012-07-05, 14:29 | Link #59 | |
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I would agree with you if this was before the two year time skip. But WG has given the Marines more power because of Akoiji's departure and the new Fleet Admiral is Akainu. Akainu is a very extreme character and I don't think he is going to do things like Sengoku did. Second the fact that many of the WG and Marine officials were pulling for Akainu for Fleet Admiral position may be a sign that the kitty gloves are off. The defection of Jimbi, Croc, and Black Beard probably is the main reason why they were pulling for Akainu in the first place. Weather Daflamingo cares or not, things are harder to do when the spot light is on you, especially when you no longer have the Shichibukai status to hide behind. Has for Luffy, I do not think Akainu's views on him has changed since the Marine Ford War. Anyone perceived being a help to Luffy may not see mercy this time around. No matter what Law does they won't care because they will not give him the credit. They didn't give luffy the credit for Croc in alabasta. The WG will give it all to Smoker and the fact that Law has alliance with Luffy will be the only thing that will remain. Last edited by grey_1960; 2012-07-05 at 14:42. |
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2012-07-05, 14:47 | Link #60 | |
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She is feeling crappy because she is captured by Vergo, a superior turned traitor who kidnapped all the kids of the people that approached her for help. She feels helpless like how Smoker is feeling pathetic.
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