2011-10-04, 16:23 | Link #1721 | |
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It's probably the fact that he read 999 before E17. I was seriously disappointed in 999 because it stole so much from E17. Reading 999 first and E17 second probably results in the opposite effect. |
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2011-10-05, 06:02 | Link #1722 | ||
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This should be my verdict: Ever17 was better story-wise, but 999 was a better experience. |
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2011-10-05, 08:58 | Link #1723 | |
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I say BW has more basis behind it than the Morphogenetic field. Spoiler:
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2011-10-05, 10:58 | Link #1724 | |
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Spoiler for Ever17 and 999:
EDIT: Spoiler-tagged! Last edited by Bluemail; 2011-10-06 at 05:47. |
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2011-10-06, 06:08 | Link #1727 | |
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Spoiler for Ever17 endgame:
I guess it did come rather suddenly... Maybe that's why I said it felt like a twist just for the sake of having a twist. Can't think of more to say right now. Spoiler for Coco:
EDIT: I have now got all the endings, but I'm missing one scene between the Kid/Sara and Coco scenes, scene number 105. Could someone give me directions how to get to that scene? Might this CG be from that scene (aside from outfit of course)? Spoiler for Xbox 360 screenshot:
But I already have all the CGs in the gallery. Does that mean the Xbox version actually has additional scenes/routes? Because I would remember if that CG popped up while I was playing. It could potentially be awesome if that is the case. I heard they're also going to streamline writing in some way, is that right? I have already heard some gloomy comments of this release ruining Ever17. Is it just someone whining just because the original is being altered a bit, or is there some basis to this doubt? I don't think using 3D models warrants this. Spoiler for LeMU Levels:
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2011-10-08, 11:01 | Link #1729 | |
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-An additional ending. -Rewritten story (basically, to remove the filler from the original) -3D models and redone backgrounds. -New CGs. -Remixed soundtrack -Entire game is re-recorded (though with all the original cast). Speaking of the Xbox 360 remake, I just got an e-mail from Amazon JP today that my copy will be shipped on December 2nd. So we do have confirmation that December 1st is the official release date. |
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2011-10-08, 13:43 | Link #1731 | |
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Of course, you may be right, but until something's released, I tend to have an optimistic look on things, as I don't believe in fully judging something unless it's out. |
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2011-10-08, 14:35 | Link #1732 | |
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- Cyberfront with code_18 (the official successor in the line but by completely new people) - Regista's I/O and upcoming Root Double (helmed by writer/director Nakazawa) - Chun Soft's 999 and its upcoming follow-up (helmed by writer Uchikoshi) - 5pb's Chaos;Head and Steins;Gate (looser link but helmed by songwriter Shikura, along with a sub-writer on R11) - 5pb's Dunamis15 and Ever17 remake (helmed by ex-KID producer Ishikawa, they signify the official return of the SDR Project brand) |
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2011-10-08, 15:37 | Link #1733 |
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We still don't even know the actual staff behind E17 remake yet, so I don't think it's time to be up in arms yet. We just know who isn't in it, but not everyone involved in the original has outright claimed their connection to the remake yet so it's still vague.
Point is there is still a chance, although I think the real test of how well the remake staff is will be from the new scenarios, not the rewritting of the original script, which isn't that hard to do. EDIT: Finally some new screens. The models seemed to have improved, though still not where I'd like them. Curious to see how Robotics;Notes will turn out now, since Chiyomaru has said that E17 was the test bed for it in terms of using 3-D models in their games. And don't know if it's been mentioned, but the site finally renewed with new stuff. Characters page especially, has the voices and CGs... man some of these voices sound weird now... perhaps because it has been so long ago... Last edited by winkel; 2011-10-08 at 16:10. |
2011-10-08, 16:28 | Link #1734 | |
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Note that on the second page of the screenshots, there's an interview with all the seiyuus (except for Hoshi). I'll probably translate those tomorrow, because I'm studying for a test right now. As for voices: Hoshi's Takeshi sounds different now (at the very least, his voice isn't exactly the same as his Keiichi voice now), but his Kid sounds exactly the same. Shitaya... sounds pretty much the same as You, but her voice seems slightly deeper. It seems all those years of playing Rin Tohsaka has gotten to Ueda, because Sara doesn't quite sound as youthful as her older voice. Overall, sounds in the middle between the old Sara and Rin, I'd say. Kasahara's Sora sounds similar, but something seems slightly different. Hmm... Asakawa's Tsugumi is... well, it seems a little lighter in pitch. Kinda disappointing, since I thought her previous deep voice for Tsugumi was perfect. Oh well, maybe it'll be better in the actual game. Mochizuki certainly sounds the same, that's for sure. |
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2011-10-08, 16:36 | Link #1735 | |
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No. Just no. |
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2011-10-08, 22:30 | Link #1736 |
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Looks fucked.
And from that video they ruined "Karma". Unforgivable. That was my favourite piece of music from Ever17. With the change of clothes it seems between the incidents I think the game will really have lost it's "oh shit" feeling when everything clicks.
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2011-10-09, 05:13 | Link #1739 | ||||
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oooxo xoooo ooooo oo Spoiler for Xbox scene and Sara:
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I'm not very impressed with the 3D models. Especially Coco looks really weird in some angles, though this pic looks okay enough. But it seems they got Sara right. The backgrounds look good. Rest area has been moved to Level 1... Does that mean that in this version Erste Boden isn't flooded? Or could they have switched the order somehow, that Level 1 is actually Dritte Stock (was the rest area on Dritte Stock?). I have no idea why they would do that, though. Weirdest thing is this submarine. It's probably the exploration vessel from IBF, but Sora shouldn't be able to be there. I'm looking forward to seeing what this new version has to offer. If I ever get to read it, I don't think I'm going to get an Xbox 360. But a fresh take on an old story might not always be bad. At least we don't have to read the same thing twice (even if we wanted to ). They should include a retro mode or something, with the original story intact. With the revival of the SDR brand, are they trying to start some kind of "Number"-series with Dunamis15 and put Ever17 as part of it? As it's longer Ever17 - the out of infinity -, just Ever17. Quote:
After listening to the full version, I think I like the new opening song. It did sound bad in the trailer, but now I have a better impression of it. Quote:
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Ryukishi's characters might look weird at first, but yeah, at least they're very lively. They should give us a proper trailer. I still need to see the game in motion before I want to doom the 3D to the depths with Lemuria. It was probably told a long time ago, but the time limit seems to have been changed to 170 hours and 17 minutes, no longer 119 hours. Sora seems to say it in her 2nd voice clip as well. Sounds kind of unrealistic to estimate it so exactly, might be related to new plot. If not, they should have dropped the 17 minutes at least. It adds a little over 2 days to the narrative. A Lot of new content, or events have been spread more widely, resulting in shorter days in playtime. Last edited by Bluemail; 2011-10-09 at 05:27. |
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2011-10-09, 05:32 | Link #1740 | |
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All that stuff in etc2 is bonus content for completing the game beyond just getting all the endings. You will have to go through all the possible choices and have the Clear List completed - that is all I know unfortunately. Your best bet is to play from the beginning and hunt for choices you missed... or just get a 100% save file.
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