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Perfect 10 | 19 | 41.30% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 19 | 41.30% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 4 | 8.70% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 4 | 8.70% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2012-12-15, 00:16 | Link #6 | |
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I think the director is conditioning us for something more "shocking".... Wow, Mamoru is missing..I still want to consider that Maria really cares for Mamoru. Nice.. quite a decent episode... on the other hand, why am I so unease whenever I see the two together... Last edited by NoemiChan; 2012-12-15 at 02:41. |
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2012-12-15, 00:47 | Link #7 |
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So after the lecture Maria gave Saki about how Mamoru isn't as strong as Saki and can't handle the harsh truth last episode, she goes on to make a joke about a Tainted Cat would get sent after him? >_>
That was a little careless on Maria's part, even though it's not really her fault that Mamoru is that unstable. |
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2012-12-15, 02:32 | Link #9 |
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The answers given was already floating around the previous episodes, but it helped when they shed more light on the details of what a Fiend and Karma Demon. It's kind of surprising to find out that people who become Karma Demons are ones who are usually the most gentle and kind. While the answers were given at a blistering pace the Satoru's grandmother (my she looks young), it wasn't too difficult to understand everything given what has been already shown to us.
It also heavily implies that Mamoru will become a Fiend, similar to how Shun became a Karma Demon. Although, I'm really hoping for a surprise for things to not end so grizzly. Though given what the current state of the world I wouldn't hold my breath.
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2012-12-15, 02:41 | Link #11 |
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So I guess with all the talk of Fiends and Karma Demons, and Shun fulfilling the role of Karma Demon, I guess Mamoru will be a Fiend, or at least begin the symptoms of being one. I would expect losing such a long-time friend and another she loved so much will provoke Saki to be the future leader of the Ethics Committee. Considering the death exchange between that doctor and the fiend in the story, I REALLY hope that situation doesn't occur with Maria and Mamoru =0(.
I also wonder what the role of Shun's memory in Saki will have in the future. The story about the Karma Demon girl revealed that she ate a pill to take her own life, but it didn't affect Shun in the least(stronger Cantus powers?). I wonder did he subconsciously use his Cantus to cause this subscious self to exist in Saki.
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2012-12-15, 04:04 | Link #14 |
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Seems to me like Mamoru is heading down the karma demon path. He fits the kind and gentle description and there's similarities to Shun with being stuck on a cantus exercise. I have a feeling Saki is going to have no choice but to end his suffering somehow (not sure how they'd do that, but the result would be Mamoru's death) considering the conversation she's just had, and that'll push Saki to accepting the offer and also set Maria on the path to becoming a fiend.
I have a feeling the whole "human rights aren't given until 17 now" indicates that'll take some time before it starts showing, at least long enough for the gang to hit 17 and thus remove the possibility of simply removing Maria like with all the other kids. We've had that ominous line about her from ages ago and it just seemed a bit too convenient with their current ages (they're all 16 right?) to be coincidence. |
2012-12-15, 04:11 | Link #15 |
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In terms of pure emotional impact, Shin Sekai Yori is a show with few equals. In a word, it’s ruthless – no measures are taken to soften the impact events have on the viewer. We’re seeing these children in all their most vulnerable and sympathetic, and then being forced to watch their world crumble around them. And what a world it is, too – I think the most interesting question emerging as the series reaches the half-way point is whether this society is worth saving at all, considering the price it’s paying to try and limp on into the future.
The lessons we’re taught in life are that we should search for solutions, sensible paths that benefit everyone concerned. As a result, we tend to look for them in our fiction – in our anime no less than anywhere else – but I think our conditioning leads us astray with Shin Sekai Yori. There are no solutions to the questions this series asks us – only compromises of an ever-increasingly vile and unpleasant nature. Unless I miss my guess this series isn’t a conventional drama about obstacles and overcoming them; it’s a diary telling the story of a dying society, from the perspective of someone who already knows how the story ends. What message it seeks to impart about the world we leave in is a matter of debate, but the emotional impact of the story is hard to deny. As painful as it is to watch, this is a great series.
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2012-12-15, 04:11 | Link #16 | |
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Also, I don't think Mamoru will become anything. If anything, I think Mamoru will get killed just for being weak like Reiko, and Maria will snap when she finds out. Remember that it was Maria whom the narrator warned us about after all.
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2012-12-15, 04:23 | Link #17 | |
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I think if Mamoru is on the path to becoming something Saki will end up stopping it before it gets anywhere near out of control but definitely whatever happens here will be what causes Maria to snap sometime in the future. |
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2012-12-15, 05:05 | Link #19 | |
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Yep, same here - one thing I find fascinating is how it's basically humans digging their own graves. OK, so here's this incredible, potentially dangerous power. How can we be sure it's never used against humans? Oh, let's just install a mental/genetic code that makes it impossible to kill other humans! Cool! Except now we're completely defenseless if this code malfunctions. So how do we get around that? Well, let's start treating our children as commodities, culling everyone who seems to be even remotely likely to end up being dangerous. But since we can't do it ourselves, let's create killer cats or get some monsters to do the dirty work for us. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. And yet, when you look at it from their standpoint, it's all pretty logical and inevitable, because really, what else can you do? Last edited by kuromitsu; 2012-12-15 at 06:02. |
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2012-12-15, 05:14 | Link #20 | |
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