2011-09-14, 23:12 | Link #1 |
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High-10 Video Issues
I'm running on Windows 7 Ultimate x64 laptop with the latest nVidia driver for NVS 400M. It's a Lenovo R61 with 2.4 GHz and 4 GB of DDR2 RAM. I'm using MPC-HC to try and run a High-10 1080p mkv file on a 1280 x 800 screen. The file uses AVC and AC-3 codecs. I have CoreAVC 2.5.5 Pro installed. Unfortunately, I'm having trouble with the OP of the file. If CoreAVC is turned off, the video lags. If CoreAVC is turned on, I get artifacts.
Stranger still, I noticed that the video lags severely (even with CoreAVC on) if my Firefox 6 isn't running. Anyone have ideas on how to resolve this? Should I try running an x64 codec pack instead?
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2011-09-15, 00:10 | Link #2 |
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CoreAVC 2.5.5 does not support Hi10. It does not support Hi10 until 3.0.
At this time the best support for Hi10 is with CCCP. That's the only "codec pack" that I can ever recommend to not screw up your system and the best support for Hi10, so I really hope your system can run Hi10 with its help.
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2011-09-15, 00:13 | Link #3 |
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CoreAVC 2.x does not support Hi10p, neither in software nor in hardware (CUDA/DXVA) mode. Don't bother buying CoreAVC 3.x, because current hardware does not support hi10p decoding and in software mode it's not faster than its free competitors.
Download newest CCCP or try LAV Video. /edit: argh, too slow. |
2011-09-15, 02:10 | Link #5 |
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Oh wow, of all things, I didn't say that I'm running MPC-HC off of the latest CCCP. Should I try uninstalling CoreAVC, and then running the file again?
What's even the point of High-10 anyway? Today was the first that I'd even heard of it, and it's only supposed to be a couple months old.
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2011-09-15, 02:17 | Link #6 |
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I was afraid of that. Go into the CCCP Settings program. On the first page you have an option for "CoreAVC" uncheck that. Above that for ffdshow video decoders, check the box that says "H.264/AVC". That will keep CoreAVC from being used without needing to uninstall it.
If that doesn't do the job, you could try scanning for spyware and ensure that your laptop isn't wasting resources. You could try LAV Video as sneaker suggests. It is possible that will run better on your machine. I've seen stranger things happen on Windows 7. It's massively weird that running Firefox will reduce lag -- I have no idea what to make of that. If none of that works, then you are probably stuck with two choices: avoid hi10 or get a new computer. I suggest the later since your laptop is pretty out of date, but your finances might not agree with me.
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2011-09-15, 02:19 | Link #7 |
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Either get the latest CCCP or if you want to play with MPC-HC follow this guide.
http://coalgirls.wakku.to/?page_id=4611
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2011-09-15, 15:28 | Link #10 |
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What TheFluff said is very true, for the time being LAV Video in particular is considerably faster then CoreAVC 3.0.1 decoding hi10p. They claim to be hard at work coding new optimized assembly to make CoreAVC 3 faster than libav/ffmpeg solutions with hi10p in a near-future 3.0.x release, but until (if?) that actually comes to fruition or you feel generous enough to finance their endeavor, you'd be smart to hold off on the upgrade.
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2011-09-15, 18:11 | Link #11 |
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For you Linux folks in the audience, the current build of mplayer seems to handle hi10 correctly. On Ubuntu, I installed the mplayer-daily PPA and updated mplayer with
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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:motumedia/mplayer-daily sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install mplayer
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Fastest solution I've found so far is the the July 30th CCCP with output set to overlay mixer in the MPC-HC options.
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I tried some Mplayer stuff too because I'd heard its subtitle renderer is far faster than the CCCP one and I figured that might free up some CPU for Hi10 decoding, but in my experience it was also slower than CCCP at Hi10 on the Thinkpad. Not sure if I could get a better result if I knew more about builds, settings, etc., I'm pretty inexperienced with MPlayer.
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Using other drivers wouldn't have helped. Hardware accelerated video decoding isn't done with shader code that runs on the actual GPU core; it's done with a small, dumb and extremely limited video decoder chip that just happens to be sitting on your video card. No video card currently in existence has a video decoder ASIC that supports decoding high bitdepth video. Thus, in order to get hardware accelerated 10-bit decoding you must first wait until graphics cards that features such ASIC's are released, and then buy and install one.
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I meant the wide array of other video drivers that come with Linux mplayer, like the ones that use OpenGL. The standard "xv" driver works fine. I understand that current graphics cards don't have the hardware to decode hi10 and thus won't work with things like VDPAU.
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2011-09-17, 01:33 | Link #18 |
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Just when I was planning on buying new upgrades for my PC (2004-era hardware can't play today's big-res MKVs, hence the upgrade), here comes this encoding I never heard of before. In that case, looks like I'll have to read the fine print before downloading until such time there's ample hardware and software support.
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2011-09-17, 02:45 | Link #20 |
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http://nightlies.videolan.org/build/win32/last/ (He meant 1.2)
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