2009-08-22, 22:42 | Link #1261 |
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NOOOOO!!! What happened to the nice little Cal that used to play being a maid and use to love eating hamburgers. I guess she is dead now, I'm a little dissappointed to how much she has changed. I also can't believe that Scythe Master puts up with her shit, I always though Scythe Master pimp slapped his girls when they disrespected him. I guess he might not expect much out of Cal or thinks that Reiji will kill her in the end.
Well looking forward to the next episode, to see the much awaited main event, the cat fight of the year Elen Vs. Cal, who will win? who will stay with Reiji? Man it sucks that we have to wait a week for the next episode. |
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2009-08-22, 23:02 | Link #1263 |
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If you guys ask me, I think that Drei is the least qualified to be phantom. Lets asume that she does kill Reiji. Where is she going to get her motivation from? It seems to me that everytime she kills someone she imagines Reiji's face.
I think that Scythe Master has a big man crush on Reiji. I was like " come on Reiji, Just snap his neck already!" when SM was in the bench. hopefully they come up with an entirely new ending for the anime, I did not find the VN endings to be so great. |
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The fight should be Reiji vs. Drei imo. That would nicely force Reiji to face his broken promises/sins/failures and deal with them like a responsible adult imo. Quote:
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But what is really best for Inferno would be to turn back the clock and get Ein and Zwei back as a team imo. Back to the good old days when they just followed orders.
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2009-08-23, 08:58 | Link #1268 |
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I disagree with the post above. I rank Zwei first not because he's my favorite character but because it's the truth. Zwei has his natural instincts like Sycthe said, far superior than that of Ein since he saved her alot during missions, he also can control his killing intent in contrast to Drei, because she can't control her emotions and Ein has no killing intent as stated.
He's also pretty cunning sometimes IMO, examples are how he could bring out Ein's emotions since she was like a doll and how he made Claudia like him and Cal attached to him, also how Sycthe really liked him as an "experiment" and Lizzie I kinda got the feeling she felt comfortable with him after a while. Then there is the training, it took half the time Ein's training took to perfect him, which is pretty amazing imo, pretty similar to Cal. Also about the thing about the duel Zwei and Ein had after his apartment got blown out, Zwei stated He can't win, and that he doesn't want to win either, that he was tired of this, if he had killed Ein, then he really would have lost everything, my conclusion is if Zwei really wants to kill Ein, then he would have it easy, sometimes Zwei reminds me of Sycthe as to how cunning he really is, maybe he isn't as experienced as Ein but he sure can manipulate her if he wants to, even if you say she is more skilled, he can still win. As for Cal, well I can't really judge her that much(I won't go into detail as that would be spoilers so I'll just talk about Drei in the anime) we haven't seen her much except killing the chinese. She seems to enjoy torturing her enemies and she seems to enjoy killing. She also seems fond of duels, as when she killed that chinese, and inviting Ein for a duel I guess. Also I was quite annoyed when she entered that restaurant and thousands of bullets aimed at her but she kept running without getting hit, it reminded me of the anime Noir, where they just charge in and never get hit, unlike Ein and Zwei who use tactics. My ranking is > 1. Zwei 2. Ein 3. Drei
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2009-08-23, 09:10 | Link #1269 | |
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2009-08-23, 09:16 | Link #1270 |
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I guess I'll go into detail for you to understand by what I meant, by "liking him" I meant as an assassin, not like as in anything romantic just as an assassin that would benefit her, so she took a liking to him just like Sycthe.
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2009-08-23, 09:22 | Link #1272 |
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I don't know if you know what cunning mean but an example of cunning would be Claudia or Scythe Master. Zwei is far from cunning. He a decent guy but he was the one being used. His relationship with Ein and Drei was not based on cunning but him being a fairly likable guy. Comparing Zwei to either Claudia or Scythe Master is laughable. He's not anywhere on their level of cunning. None of the phantoms are.
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2009-08-23, 09:30 | Link #1274 |
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My take on assasins:
Ein is a true assasin: coldblooded, calculative and emotions don't control her. No matter the situation, she can always find a way to get rid of her enemy. However, her lack of natural skills might turn against her Drei: good at gunfights, doesn't need to aim for long, is able to dual wield and can quickly find a way to use the battlefield in her advantage (when she rushed into the reastaurant, she made enemies look at the bike while she was hiding few meters away which allowed her to take few of them by suprise; when they noticed her, she killed few more before they could aim properly and when they did manage to aim, she threw the curtain into the air and quickly moved in all that chaos behind her opponent). However, she is too hotheaded and once she becomes sure that she will win, she seems to stop being cautious. In 1vs1, she seems to mentaly torture her opponent, usually with the Clock of Despair which greately reduce the opponent's skills Zwei: He is somewhere in between. He is calculative and, while not as fast as Ein, is able to find a way to cleanly get rid of his opponent. He is also good in using guns, tough not as good as Drei seems to be. Also, his wish to survive is strong and sometimes his instincts seem to increase his skills when death seems to be near I won't rank them as they would fare different in different situations
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2009-08-23, 09:32 | Link #1275 | |
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Zwei never once displayed this kind of cunning nor was he even aware of the fact that he was used from the very beginning. He has been and probably never will been on either of their levels.
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2009-08-23, 09:41 | Link #1276 | |
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2009-08-23, 09:42 | Link #1277 | |
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@ Nayrael - That's obvious, I never stated that he has or will ever use it like Scythe and Claudia did.
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2009-08-23, 10:00 | Link #1278 | |
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2009-08-23, 10:04 | Link #1279 |
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Again, she took a liking to him not because he's "cunning" [bad word choice on your part], but because she NEEDED to USE someone LIKE HIM.
Like Slick Rick said earlier, if anything, it's SM and Claudia that are the cunning ones. |
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@ miroku2192, that I agree, about Zwei being cunning with Claudia, she was being cunning with him, he never was with her though he was using her as well as means to live, Zwei had something Ein and Drei don't have, that is people always getting interested in him for some reason or another.
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