2012-09-08, 08:37 | Link #1061 | |
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Indeed there would be a lot of conversations that aren't shown, but that's due to Conservation of Detail. And I don't think the way Oojima's new found manifesto interacts with Satsuki's is insignificant enough to be left out, even if political philosophies aren't the general focus. On the contrary, I think it's important enough to be given focus straight away. And even if I did assume they had the conversation, the problem is essentially the same as being informed about something rather than being shown. If it's important, it should be shown. But I suppose it depends on how they handle it in the next scenes they discuss it. If they start by mentioning they discussed it before then that'll be marginally better but if they start by acting like they didn't consider the issue before then I'll be pretty annoyed. Fair enough, both you and Triple-R point out the show is trying to balance an awful lot but that doesn't really excuse the problem. It just explains it. Now all that said, I'd like to remind everyone that this little issue is simply a minor issue and a mere example of bigger issue I feel of the show so please don't make me blow it all out of proportion and get the idea that I care too much about this.
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2012-09-08, 08:49 | Link #1062 |
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Ok, since Haak already said it, let’s leave the political detail at that (for now) .
On another topic, am I hallucinating, or did I just saw Prof. Emmet Brown’s DeLorean Time Machine near the end of this episode ? They said it was Recycling Club’s car. Seriously? I’m sure that the car was glowing like it’s supposed to be seconds after traveling through time. Marty McFly (or his child) could be in it!
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2012-09-08, 08:58 | Link #1063 | |
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2012-09-08, 09:00 | Link #1064 | |
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2012-09-08, 09:18 | Link #1066 | ||
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Prof. Brown: “Ok boys, we're done observing beautiful anime girls. Next stop: DBZ universe! I wanna get a sample of that Goku’s blood. It might be able to cure cancer!”
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2012-09-08, 09:20 | Link #1067 | |
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The guy who runs the Recycling Club is actually from the future, and was sent back in time to ensure that Oojima ends up with the right girl. Anyway, yeah, the nod to Back to the Future was really cool.
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2012-09-08, 12:34 | Link #1068 |
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Just watched the episode, the little bits of jealousy shown at the start for me when Yuuki meets Ousawa, for me seemed pretty normal, that would have been probably the norm of almost every childhood friend character who has feelings for the MC, some light teasing and being a little upset about the exchange.
Her stopping Yuuki from doing anything to the girls bullying Isara again made sense to me especially in the present of other students it was a logical choice, and TBF I don't think she feels that much malice towards Isara at that point to want to see her hurt. The scene that every seems to annoy everyone surprisingly did not annoy me or make me dislike Chisato at all. While it came of as a little too desperate and needy, I can understand where she was coming from I saw that she was not trying to get him to look at her as a lover as has resigned herself to the fact that she has been friendzoned. Reason being, she had the outburst in response to what Yuuki had said when he had friendzoned her, he promised to always be by her side even though he did not love her romantically. IMO she has "given up" on Yuuki, that's why she feels threaten when she feels like she is losing her best friend too, due to the events she witnesses during the day, things like having Yuuki having secrets with Satsuki or him him trying to change his manifesto which made her feel like his motivations were not where Chisato told they should be leading to her feeling like they were drifting apart . Which is why when she has her outburst, she not only talks about Isara but the repoter as well, also we have her being emotionally shaken by her dream, and also she saw a pair of kids who clearly reminded her of both her relationship to Yuuki and Daiki.. If not the outburst would have involved some notion of romantic feelings but it didn't have that. She basically lost the love of her life, and now she feels like she is going to lose her best friend as well. IMO I think sometimes since the childhood friend genre is so commonly used he just stereotype them in this situation Chisato is not just his childhood friend but aslo his best friend.
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2012-09-08, 15:09 | Link #1069 |
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Yea, there's a reason why people say the old line "I don't want to mess up our friendship". It ain't just a line to reject someone, but its the truth. Not only can you deny a romantic relationship with that person, but if you actually DO value that friendship, it can put a strain on it and possibly mess that up too. Chisato is learning the hard way.
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2012-09-09, 03:27 | Link #1070 |
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okay! I'm catching up with this anime!
let's see.... I like this school system... it's little more complicated with a real comparison with a government that's making everything more interesting... about how independent candidate want to try their chances to compete with three-ruling department for girls, I think only Chisato and Satsuki got their develoment... with few episodes left, I don't think Isara or Mifuyu will get a further development in their own arc actually I don't really care about other girls since I'm a 'childhood friend' supporter but I watch this anime because I heard some issue said that this anime is doing a very good visual novel adaptation (I'm expecting another Clannad anime) well, I really hope they will show us each arc with more complete way... but let only one conclusion in the end (not multiple ending like Yosuga no Sora did) commenting about current episode, Yuuki is a jerk for abandoning Chisato's feeling... that's not a good way to avoid her even if you don't like her... and a car crash is truly worth for him.... (although in next episode preview, he seems okay) |
2012-09-09, 04:16 | Link #1071 |
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Woah there. Yuuki cannot be blame for Chisato's angst. He flat out rejected her twice already, yet she is still clingy, jealous, and acts like she owns him. They are friends, not lovers. Also, he is not avoiding her at all. He has supported her more than anyone else has. You cannot force love on someone and expect it to be reciprocated.
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2012-09-09, 04:29 | Link #1072 | |
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Yuuki had rejected Chisato but said something that made it more confusing... Chisato... yeah, she could be blame... but you can't stop people from loving you... especially if that persons is your childhood friend, your best friend, your club president, your neighbor, and your alarm clock that prevents you from getting late at school. |
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2012-09-09, 06:53 | Link #1073 | |
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2012-09-09, 06:55 | Link #1074 | |
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2012-09-09, 08:44 | Link #1075 | |
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Having said that I understand her behavior, it's human but still a bit annoying, usually IRL this kind of behavior pushes away people instead of comes closer.
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2012-09-09, 10:40 | Link #1076 | |
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For me I saw her as giving it up as she on the promise that he makes to make up for being rejected so for me it means that she accepts that that is the most she will get from him, and even that was tested in the episode. If she were just jealous, I don't think she would have brought up the reporter who is a guy into her argument also she doesn't bring up whatever relationship he and Satsuki may have had in her mind which tells jealousy and love were not in the forefront of her outburst.
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2012-09-09, 11:03 | Link #1077 | |
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2012-09-09, 12:17 | Link #1078 | |
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The fact that we do not see any other inclination that she still wants to be together with him romantically instead works on trying to continue having the relationship they shared. IIRC at the end after the whole exchange we see that she is away from the club while they are celebrating, she was clearly still shaken by the situation, but she puts on a smile and joins with the group... She is trying to resign herself to the fact that she might never have her love. I saw the whole exchange as a validation of Yuuki promise to her, there may have been implications of having romantic feelings, but that's to be expected considering how much time she has spent pining for him, but still I thought that their friendship was a the forefront of her mind when she made her claims. While they seem well thought out, she was probably not in the best frame of mind when saying it therefore coming of as jealous and desperate, even though she was IMO just afraid of becoming more distant from Yuuki
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2012-09-10, 01:43 | Link #1079 |
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What episode is this series up to?
Is there any site that offers it via streaming that is legal streaming and for free? The Anime Network has it, but for free you only get the first episode.
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