Second Term Episode 14 Discussion

[ZhangKhaiEn]

@kenjiharima: What ep are those vidcaps (from your sig) from? I don't watch the anime much.. ^_^;;

Also, I don't see why the SR anime team would stop producing eps. Unless its popularity has gone stagnant in Japan?

In any case, us fans still have the manga to turn to~

[Turambar]

I'm onigiri again...curse my changing self on whatever the development for harima's love interest is (cept for tenma/harima, eewww).

Great ep in any case, one of my fav chaps put on the screen. The entire manga part is just hilarious, though yakumo could've used a bit more blushing

On a different note, why did the pocky have to break! WHYYYYY!

[Swampstorm]

Originally Posted by ZhangKaiEn

True, true, but Yakumo and Kenji's position was much MUCH more suggestive and "awkward" than Eri's xD

Onigiri scenes are always suggestive. The substance of the interaction is far more important, however. In the Onigiri scene, Yakumo and Harima are discussing practical issues concerning the manga. In the Flag scene, by contrast, Eri is expressing her innermost feelings. The emotive aspect of Flag scenes is what makes them powerful.

Originally Posted by kenjiharima

Eri and Harima where seen by many people, but Yakumo and Harima where alone, that makes it more intimate. And by the way look at my sig Harima is the one hugging Yakumo!

That's part of the trick to Onigiri. People tend to assume intimacy whenever they see a guy and a girl alone together. Real intimacy is another story altogether.

I'm aware that your sig image was taken from the Ni Gakki PS2 game. There are events in there designed to please fans of every faction.

I'll be bringing around a sig of my own, in a few weeks time.

Originally Posted by Truth-kun

Spoiler for speculation on the onigiri scene:

I really do think that this is the part where Yakumo finally realized what it meant to fall in love. I'm not sure what was really the dialogue was after the "Imouto-san, do you think this is wrong?" (the dialogue I'm talking about is the one Yakumo was talking about "first time" and there are pink romance thingies in the background).

I think Yakumo finally felt something close to "romantic love" for Harima on that scene.

If I'm not mistaken, the dialogue should be something along the lines of "Are you really sure that love can start like this?" The two of them are talking about whether that scene would work in the manga that they're drawing. That being said, I do think that the statement also serves as a sly comment to the audience on the Onigiri pairing itself. Does simply throwing a guy and a girl into a seemingly intimate position constitute love?

[Truth-kun]

^ I guess I didn't consider that. Hahaha. My ex-onigirist side is coming out again -_-. Thank you for waking me up! :P

In any case, I have a question that I want to ask. I have the answer in mind but I'm not sure if that is applicable:

Spoiler for Question:

1) Why did Eri say to Yakumo "You don't have to give him a present. Do you think he's been thanked enough?"?

[haiz123321]

Question:I read the 1st post n they said no askin for the anime dl(RAW,OVA,SUBBED) i just asked if 14 is out anot n my post got deleted why iz that i just need confirmation im not askin where to dl it

[ichigoismyhomie]

i like how they used a spoofed up version of Love Hina when harima and yakumo were talking about the manga. so genius. This is why I love SR so much. The story never get boring.....

[kenjiharima]

@ ZhangKhaiEn My sig is taken from the new PS2 game.

Onigiri can be big if Yakumo can have a bit of a backbone to tell her fellings. Harima is the first guy to ever move her heart and she was the one who is approaching her in the first season(tea club camping trip), but big dumb sister used ONNE-CHAN POWER, maybe that's why Yakumo is still a little hesitant to go all out or maybe she does'nt want to hurt anyone's feelings. Tenma and Eri specially.

For now KJ is pushing Flag/Jersey faction on the manga, but for anime viewers it's Onigiri for now.

[ZhangKhaiEn]

Originally Posted by Swampstorm

If I'm not mistaken, the dialogue should be something along the lines of "Are you really sure that love can start like this?" The two of them are talking about whether that scene would work in the manga that they're drawing.

I disagree. Yakumo tends to bring up out-of-topic "suggestive" things in the middle of their manga sessions. Take for example vol.7, ch.95: "La Sorelle". The same could be said about vol.12, ch.143 (SR2, ep.14).

But for Kenji? You're prolly right~ he's too obsessed with Tenma and his manga... xD (Poor, poor Yakumo and Eri... >_<)

[haiz123321]

o.O there is even a game for sch rumble?! >_<

[ZhangKhaiEn]

yup yup! ^_^

http://www.gamefaqs.com/search/index...=All+Platforms

[Deathkillz]

O.o thats new i didnt know that school rumble had a game to lol...wht type of game is it?? (rpg?)

[haiz123321]

MAN IM GONNA BUY IT 1ST THING TML..ok not 1st thing but maybe tml lol

[Swampstorm]

Originally Posted by Truth-kun

In any case, I have a question that I want to ask. I have the answer in mind but I'm not sure if that is applicable:

Spoiler for Question:

1) Why did Eri say to Yakumo "You don't have to give him a present. Do you think he's been thanked enough?"?

I suspect that this might be linked to the events of Tenma's birthday dinner.

Originally Posted by kenjiharima

Onigiri can be big if Yakumo can have a bit of a backbone to tell her fellings. Harima is the first guy to ever move her heart and she was the one who is approaching her in the first season(tea club camping trip), but big dumb sister used ONNE-CHAN POWER, maybe that's why Yakumo is still a little hesitant to go all out or maybe she does'nt want to hurt anyone's feelings. Tenma and Eri specially.

Yakumo needs to develop those feelings in the first place, before she can tell them to anyone, right? You seem to be putting the cart before the horse.

Originally Posted by ZhangKaiEn

I disagree. Yakumo tends to bring up out-of-topic "suggestive" things in the middle of their manga sessions. Take for example vol.7, ch.95: "La Sorelle". The same could be said about vol.12, ch.143 (SR2, ep.14).

This scene isn't really open to interpretation, because we are given the dialogue under a specific context. You can't take that line out of the context of the lines that precede it and the lines that follow it. Yakumo is raising an objection to using the scene, and they agree not to use it.

The lines in La Sorelle have a specific context, as well. Yakumo introduces the topic with a lead in question, and then follows up on it afterwords.

Originally Posted by ZhangKaiEn

But for Kenji? You're prolly right~ he's too obsessed with Tenma and his manga... xD (Poor, poor Yakumo and Eri... >_<)

Well, the issue doesn't matter much to Yakumo, either way. As for Eri, however - she doesn't have much to worry about.

[haiz123321]

lol this epi was nice in 2 parts imadori never filrted this time(also never made us laugh) and the bomb passin thing lol

[kenjiharima]

Remember the time Yakumo said on the camping trip "Too bad , it seems he does'nt remember me.", then Harima said "BTW thanks for the Rice Balls yesterday.". Then Yakumo has some white lights behind her. Must be cupid...nahh
either way this is an onigiri episode hope to see more in the future. But I rather have KIDS MEAL!! ^__^

[Shredder]

Best. Character. Ever.

10 on this ep just for that. The rest was good too though, 8 at least. Go go Naru-chan and Eri-chan! Eri had enough time in this ep, as long as I get to hear Yui's voice some. A real treat of an ep for Onigiri fans. Plus Karasuma and Hanai finally showed up, and the minimal characters were treated as they should be--not absent but good in small doses. Even Lala was kind of funny when she couldn't keep up with the Jap word game. I did like the Buddha character's cosplay and harem scenes.

Still Harima should've taken that little gift, why refuse? And what was the deal with Tenma and Karasuma, it wasn't resolved? Also how many botched confessions has Harima had by now, 10? They keep coming up with ways to throw them off, but at least Harima got some credit for this one.

[SonicMonkey]

Ok I have somewhat serious continuity question.

In the birthday party scene when Yakumon is trying to give Harima his birthday present, Eri retorts something along the lines of "just being here is a present" or something like that. Now, this is in direct reference to Harima's feelings for Tenma.

When exactly did Eri become aware that Harima has a crush on Tenma? Because that is certainly what it seems like, plus her actions at paying for Tenma's birthday dinner in episode 12 really seems like she knows. For instance as they are walking away from the evening they show a close up of Eri's face and she calls Harima a "bakka" and sort of pouts and looks downcast (made me feel kinda bad for her actually).

I'm just wondering when it was exactly that she figured this out. Now, it's not that I'm surprised about it, it's just that I don't remember when it occured.

In any regards I think it (and episode 12 in particular) shows how much Eri cares for Harima even if she doesn't have the guts to say so yet (although it looks like the manga is starting to get there actually... scary thought). It's very similar to how Harima gives Tenma his flowers and pretends they are from Karasuma. I thought it was a nice change of pace for Harima, finally he is actually thinking about Tenma's feelings, even if he doesn't like them. Basically it shows that the two characters are actually thinking about the people they like (love?) Eri is thinking about Harima enough to figure out he likes Tenma and Harima is thinking about Tenma enough to admit her feelings are (currently anyway, suppose i should leave that open) are not for him.

Anyway I just have to say that I totally <3 Eri. She was the one character that I did not expect to grow on me because generally I find Tsundere characters really annoying (I could never get into Love Hina because of this)... however Eri's "deredere" side is just way too cute. I think the fact that she's not completely over the top like Naru Narusegawa from Love Hina makes the character work a lot better. It's like you don't feel that when she is in "tsuntsun" mode that this is actually her default behavior, but rather she is just trying to cope with something

All in all a pretty solid episode. Can't wait for the rest of the season

Edit:

Heh after reading what I wrote I realized I made a comparison between Eri and Naru about how much I dislike Naru Narusegawa in Love Hina... and neglected to mention that I have always found it funny because they are both voiced by the same seiyu A little trivia for some people I guess ^_^

[kenjiharima]

Eri and Naru are similar. They both beat up the main male character and they are both in love with them. Namely Kietaro x Naru and Harima x Eri. But instead of punches to the face, Harima gets kicks and shining wizards. Ouch what a knee attack!! XD

[Swampstorm]

Originally Posted by kenjiharima

Eri and Naru are similar. They both beat up the main male character and they are both in love with them. Namely Kietaro x Naru and Harima x Eri. But instead of punches to the face, Harima gets kicks and shining wizards. Ouch what a knee attack!! XD

Most of the misperceptions of Eri's character stem from trying to categorize her into familiar stereotypes - it's much more comfortable to deal with something familiar than with something unique and less predictable. Almost every girl hits guys at some point in this series. Tenma slams Harima into the ground. Mikoto punches Harima. Mikoto sends Imadori flying. Karen throws basketballs at Imadori. Yakumo slams Hanai into the ground. Lala chokes Imadori. Are all of these characters similar to Naru, then?

Similarily, the "Tsundere" classification is given undue significance. Every girl is either warm and approachable or aloof and unapproachable. If she's unapproachable and falls for a guy, she becomes warmer and more friendly - and you have a tsundere on your hands. Tsundere covers just as broad a spectrum of girls as non-Tsundere. For that matter, you could even make a case for Yakumo as a tsundere.

Instead of sticking to labels, it's much more effective to evaluate characters based on their individual stories - especially in an unpredictable series like SR. You just might find that the characters are a lot different than they originally seemed - Eri especially.

Originally Posted by SonicMonkey

When exactly did Eri become aware that Harima has a crush on Tenma?

She isn't. Eri is going through some internal turmoil right now, due in part to her feelings for Harima and due in part to some other issues. Just wait a little longer.

[Deathkillz]

dam its a great ep...and i find out that tenma is really evil -.-
lots of harima x yakumo which i love to bits and the flames of love has be lit in yakumo (from my opinion) but even though harima's intention was completely innocent his request for her to fall on top of him seems a bit too much but nevertherless yakumo still did it...and the heart beating gives a really good tip that yakumo is getting excited
also it was yakumo who gave harima a present (wht is the meaning hidden there?)
funny bits was when akira was told to crack a smile and when she wanted to wear the fish suit XD
and next week...more harima x yakumo time...i mush be in heaven lol