2012-09-22, 15:24 | Link #681 |
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See the thing with the U.S that I've come to notice is how they've had dead set party voting blocs for as long as I can remember and the electoral college system makes it so that this always seems to end up making every election closer than it has any real right to be. California and New England have always gone pretty much full democrat, the deep south and midwest Republican and arguments can be made that it ultimately does come down to race. The shifting change in influence of women and non-white voters may end up changing this though much like Vexx pointed out.
Here's an article I read showing what the electoral maps look like if you just complete exclude certain demographics from the voting roster altogether. Not sure of the scientific merit behind it, but apparently if you exclude white people altogether from the roster then Obama wins the 2008 Presidential election 538 electoral votes to zip over McCain. |
2012-09-22, 16:39 | Link #682 |
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Sad isn't it? That's America nowadays, it seems like you're either with someone or you're against them now.
Yeah... That was really great. Glad someone was able to point out the hypocrisy so clear as day. Considering his following I doubt this will bite him in the ass for telling the truth, there's simply no way to refute what he said considering how he laid out the evidence. I'm sure Fox may go on to say that he took things out of context or cut out only the parts he liked. |
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2012-09-22, 20:40 | Link #689 | |
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Could it be that many people are undecided because they just don't have the time nor drive to dig up info or follow the joke that is the political media. Nope they must all be idiots like Kim Kardashian. I mean I'm pretty much an undecided voter at this point even though I have a good idea of who I'll vote for. That must put me into the same league as the people he described.
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2012-09-22, 21:37 | Link #690 |
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I pretty much agree with you on Bill Maher. He's another perfect example of how even if you agree with someone on many things, you still dislike them because the way they say it rubs you the wrong way. Too much of a douche, and no where near as funny or deft as John Stewart is when it comes to mixing comedy and politics.
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Yeah, I'd like to know what makes him say something like that. Not like it matters; it is just another republican official saying things that are way off base. Just gotta love it when stupid twits call the president Barack Hussein Obama. We get it. You are trying to draw an association between Obama and Saddam Hussein (even though they have nothing in common). Now stop trolling.
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2012-09-22, 22:44 | Link #692 |
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Just a quick observation here.... The emphasis on his middle name is put forth to remind people that he is got Muslim roots more than anything else. The representative started with how Hussein is re-building the Ottoman empire single handedly. And then when he cites his full name with the added emphasis on Hussein, he quickly says that he fully believes Obama is a Christian. It will make even more sense why these guys like the Texas representative recite Obama's full name whenever the occasion calls for it if you hear my most favorite gal from Minnesota, Michelle Bachman (I adore her) speaks about Obama.
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* - Being a Mormon is just fine. My point is that they try to paint Obama as a Muslim, and GOP supporters, for the most part, don't like Muslims, so I jokingly suggest they emphasize Romney's Mormon faith, being that most GOP supporters don't like Mormons, either.
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2012-09-22, 23:53 | Link #695 |
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Even today, most Catholics, most Protestants, and most other Christians (other denominations and non-denominational Christians) don't even consider Mormonism to really be a type of Christianity. Heck, even today, you still have Protestants who think all/virtually all Catholics are going to hell and you have Catholics who think all/virtually all Protestants are going to hell.
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2012-09-23, 02:16 | Link #696 |
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I echo the dislike of Bill Maher as well.
He's almost as bad as Limbaugh, just on the opposite spectrum. He completely lacks the style and swag of Stewart, and babbles on condescending hate speech without giving it any intelligent slant. It's simply gratingly annoying.
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you completely missed the point here. ... start over: 93.4% of the 47% don't pay taxes, not because they take advantages of deductions and exemptions, but because the amount of their income falls below a taxable threshold. 93.4% of 47% still means that 44% of Americans are getting government benefits paid for by other taxpayers. the other 6.6% of the 47% (3% of total taxpayers) use perfectly legal methods of avoiding taxes. Many do so with tax-free municipal bonds that were created so cities and states could raise revenue for schools, roads, and bridges. the bond buyers are actually helping communities by purchasing bonds that pay a lower interest rate. congress gave these bonds taxfree status for just that reason. you can legislate these away if you like, but just watch... communities get hurt in the process. One more time for effect: Spoiler for One of the most influential American judges never to have served on the Supreme Court..... :
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2012-09-23, 20:45 | Link #699 |
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If you'd bother to read past the word "assume" in each sentence, you might grasp that he was simplifying it so you'd understand it without changing the underlying facts. Apparently, that wasn't enough.
And all you're describing is that the tax code is broken because of decades of special interest lobbying and political buy offs. Lets fix it. Take all those "legal" methods of avoidance away so that people large and small pay a fair share.
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