(L+CR) Kamisama no Inai Nichiyoubi (Sunday Without God)

[ookamigirl]

Ortus arc continues..
Ai really is a curious and fearless girl.
Kiriko story was interesting. It'd be fun to know more.
I wonder if that dead bunch has any hidden agenda.
So far, they look nice and friendly ^^
It sure lightened up the mood of the whole dead thing.
Looks like there is a dark side to all the good things as well.
Ai really is so naive sometimes.. but things are getting interesting.

[Calca]

So Ulla

Spoiler:

Is probably the witch

[Chase]

Wow at how Kiriko came about.

[agetreme]

Wow...This show turn out to be much interesting than my initial thought.

It looked like a moe anime with the character design of Ai but turn out to be deep, heartwarming and depressing.

Really wish that I can find the translated novel.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by justpassingby

And what's with the French?

I wonder about that myself. I take it it takes place in France or nearby and that they're all supposed to be speaking French.

[justpassingby]

From today Listen?

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Kitakoshi, and extra Mamekoshi

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What kind of black magic is that? Mikako-shi looks freaking huge, even if she removes those sandals. Or KitaEri was that small? And I didn't expect Mamegu to be Mikakos-shi's fan and looked at her twitter

Director Kumazawa will be the guest for Kaminai radio this Sunday. [link]

ps I still believe that Mamegu will replace Maaya-san one day, since her debut in Macross F ;_;

[ApathyEcstasy]

Ai's naivette annoys me to no end. Ulla should totally have her executed.

[maplehurry]

^lol chill, she's just a kid, acting like a kid.

[Solace]

Originally Posted by Chase

Wow at how Kiriko came about.

Yeah, seriously. And it's extremely strange that not a shred of resentment seems to exist among them for what the witch did. This whole city is really weird. I think I'm more creeped out by it because everything seems so well run and everyone seems so adjusted to it. I kept waiting for the "dark side" to appear after the Lion's warning, but nada.

Scar's illness has to factor into this somehow. No matter how "alive" the citizens are, and how happy they seem, existing as an undead isn't consequence free. Like, say....being unable to have children, ever. Given that Gravekeepers seem so human, it makes me wonder how they were "born", how God made them and/or put them on Earth.

Well, anyway. Looks like next episode will be the reveal of what the dark side of Ortus actually is. It's strange to reconcile Ai's reckless behavior with her extremely mature questions/reasoning, though. It's like, "you can ponder deep philosophical concepts but you can't figure out that taking your mask off in public and running around the streets as a living person is bonkers?"

Yet somehow it's adorable. So, so adorable.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Solace

Yeah, seriously. And it's extremely strange that not a shred of resentment seems to exist among them for what the witch did. This whole city is really weird. I think I'm more creeped out by it because everything seems so well run and everyone seems so adjusted to it. I kept waiting for the "dark side" to appear after the Lion's warning, but nada.

Scar's illness has to factor into this somehow. No matter how "alive" the citizens are, and how happy they seem, existing as an undead isn't consequence free. Like, say....being unable to have children, ever. Given that Gravekeepers seem so human, it makes me wonder how they were "born", how God made them and/or put them on Earth.

Well, anyway. Looks like next episode will be the reveal of what the dark side of Ortus actually is. It's strange to reconcile Ai's reckless behavior with her extremely mature questions/reasoning, though. It's like, "you can ponder deep philosophical concepts but you can't figure out that taking your mask off in public and running around the streets as a living person is bonkers?"

Yet somehow it's adorable. So, so adorable.

Scar was diagnosed with fake pregnancy, so there is also a chance Gravekepers are from their nature on not as emotionless as Humphrie claimed.
There is actually very little we know about them atm:

- When they die, they don't wake up as undead
- They are able to have children
- they got supernatural strength and senses (sensing undead)
- They are apparently needed in order for the dead to stay dead.
- They might get sick when unable to do their work

Well the last point is kinda unproven though. I'm sure you could also just burn them to ashed in order for them to be actually dead... Undead are usually pretty clichee - remove the brain kill the zombie.

We also know their bodies still rot, so them eventually dying for good is inevitable.

The other mystery we got at our hands atm is Ulla,

Spoiler for Ulla - theory:

she is most likely the witch, yet she apparently doesn't age, while being alive (according to Ai).
Its also kinda convenient how there is an entire City with a necromancer as their princess. So Ulla might even be the one responsible for everyone turning undead the moment they die.
Assuming she is a necromancer,.

[Tenzen12]

I am pretty sure normal Grave keepers can't have childs either. Ai mother was special.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by Solace

Well, anyway. Looks like next episode will be the reveal of what the dark side of Ortus actually is. It's strange to reconcile Ai's reckless behavior with her extremely mature questions/reasoning, though. It's like, "you can ponder deep philosophical concepts but you can't figure out that taking your mask off in public and running around the streets as a living person is bonkers?"

I don't think Ai's questions are that mature.

She was raised by dead villagers, therefore she cannot think of the dead as monsters. Her first "proper" departure with a dead person was her father, who was tormented by the fact that he could not pass on. The people of Ortus are not like Kizuna at all.
For the masks, she has no idea why they are even worn.

In my opinion, her line of thinking has always been simple.

[thor94]

the anime is very interesting (pity that hampie die quickly).
The Hampie death and when ai speak about her mother was really sad.
There are lot of mysteries, why all not die? can't have childrens? I think the story is inspired of last doctor who season (all people become immortal, and human supposed dead hide to escape gravekeeper/burner unit)

But, it's sure. This anime take place in France.
-The landscape look like as typical french countryside (Ai village)
-there are french architectural built (arc de triomphe, Gard acqueduct)
-the official language is french
-there are few french car (citroen 2CV)

[maplehurry]

Originally Posted by Solace

Yeah, seriously. And it's extremely strange that not a shred of resentment seems to exist among them for what the witch did. This whole city is really weird. I think I'm more creeped out by it because everything seems so well run and everyone seems so adjusted to it.

Well, it's been more than 10 years since the incident, so maybe they have gotten over it. They(the doctors) are also much less paranoid about the living people or even gravekeepers than other undead.

As for the undead being adjusted, well, they escaped from their original villages where they were "oppressed", to a new place where they would be accepted.
It's like when you are being starved, you won't be so picky about food.

And almost everyone wears a mask, that has sort of an isolating effect to reduce conflict/grudges. Like in RL, majority of murder were committed by acquaintances instead of strangers. The mask also prevents them from being reminded of their possible "decaying face" as they walk around the streets. They may have trouble accepting "ugly people" environment even though they are undead themselves, so the masks help cover this.
The fact that they HAVE TO wear mask means things weren't working out in the beginning when they weren't wearing masks, therefore, they need to wear masks now.

A leader with magical power also helps, so noone gets strange idea for a coup, as long as she's not being tyrannical and the people believe she cares about them.

In short, this is not a new city(looking at its size), measures have been taken to reduce social unrest over time.

^the above are all speculations btw. The city may still seem to work out too well even with all the sociology, but this may be intentional, as a typical fiction writing technique.

But yea, I am also anticipating the dark side of the city. I hope it's something more than just being paranoid about the living people.

[justpassingby]

I think the first time I was warned for spoilers, it was because of Moshidora, and it had something to do with Death. Spoilers can only be told for contents that are not ahead of the anime.

Spoiler:

When Ai entered Ortus, the first scenery was plantation fields. The farmers waved their hands, and Ai waved back.
When the wagon reached the city, Ai saw old women changing flowerpots, children playing, and old men smoking (7 colored smoke) and gambling at the roadside. They all are Dead.
Ai saw bones that wore suit, human legs that were entwined with chains to supply the missing weight, a lady who was unified with her western cloth, a doll-like young man that replaced his own limbs, and a literature boy with library books held in his left armpit, while his head on the other.

Livings who saw those 百鬼夜行/Hyakki Yakou ("veritable Pandemonium" should be the translation)-like mise-en-scène would regret coming to Ortus and would immediately pack to leave the city. There were too many of them that Kiriko stopped feeling hatred toward them. But Ai's reactions were different, as she felt no fear.

The normal Dead and disfigured Dead had smiles on their faces. Then Ai saw a mother with her baby (both were dead). A drop of tear came out from Ai's eyes. Kiriko who saw Ai's reaction felt that he shouldn't had looked at Ai. (p88-90).

Oh, Livings that entered Ortus on present days were mostly on official matters (merchants, diplomatic etc)

The boy in a Lion Mask.
About more than one year ago, Ortus had some Livings. Ai said to Mr. Lion that she knew it when she explored the dormitory. It was a school for the Livings.
Ai was imagining bad things happened to the students, but Mr. Lion stopped her gloomy thoughts.
9 years ago, there was no segregation between the Dead and the Livings. Ortus would accept those dead parents, but exception was made for the children: When they reached the age of 15, they had to choose between death (stay in Ortus) or life (leave Ortus).

The ratio was 8 (lived and left) to 2. But 70% that left had already came back. They were like a warped reflections of their dead parents. The parents died and had been chased out from their birthplaces, but their offspring lived and was chased out from Ortus. But Ortus never rejected them later when they died.
Children growing up surrounded by Death had regarded that Life was not something to be protected no matter what.

Mr. Lion came to Ortus when he was 7, and died when he was 15 (a year before the current event). He was a problematic child, as he was abandoned by his parents. The adults and teachers advised him not to die.
Mr. Lion died leaving no regrets. (p226-232) Death by yawning

Ortus
Located on hills with the coordinate of 48° 5' 2" N 109° 2' 58" E (Elzalgo standard). Its population was 1.2 million Dead. Their origin was nomads with Monarchical system with 1000 years of history. 14 years ago, it became a movement for the Dead as they went through militarized movements of expelling the Dead. Ortus repelled Gravekeepers, and 9 years ago it bloomed to become a City of Hope.

From 20k Dead to what it became, the Kings relinquished their rights. Only a Princess was left. p69

Ep5 ended at pg 244

The masks were wore because it was a parade also called 百鬼夜行 (Hyakki Yakou), which the literal translation should be 100 Demons traveling the Night. The Dead had nothing to hide among themselves.

[maplehurry]

^thanks for the clarification since this matter may not be explained in the anime

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Tenzen12

I am pretty sure normal Grave keepers can't have childs either. Ai mother was special.

The graveyard is a hint to the opposite.
Otherwise the gravekeepers would be too dangerous even for the entire City, because they would just come back undead kill everyone shortly before burying themselves.
Yet we see an entire graveyard for them, who buried them?
I doubt they buried each other because at the end one gravekeeper would always remain.
From that and Ai's mother we can pretty much assume that the rules regarding humanity don't apply to gravekeepers.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

The graveyard is a hint to the opposite.
Otherwise the gravekeepers would be too dangerous even for the entire City, because they would just come back undead kill everyone shortly before burying themselves.
Yet we see an entire graveyard for them, who buried them?
I doubt they buried each other because at the end one gravekeeper would always remain.
From that and Ai's mother we can pretty much assume that the rules regarding humanity don't apply to gravekeepers.

Then why did the village get Ai to bury her own mother?

If she would have died on her own, then Ai's participation should have been unnecessary. They even said that she was the only one who could do it.

[Tranhieu]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Then why did the village get Ai to bury her own mother?

If she would have died on her own, then Ai's participation should have been unnecessary. They even said that she was the only one who could do it.

1st thing come to mind: God's trolling again somewhere in this city.

So far it has been emphasized Gravekeepers were created to send dead people off, however I notice it wasn't mentioned anywhere only Gravekeepers are capable of bringing peace to the dead. There might be something else involves here, some random wish granted years ago?

[Tenzen12]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

The graveyard is a hint to the opposite.
Otherwise the gravekeepers would be too dangerous even for the entire City, because they would just come back undead kill everyone shortly before burying themselves.
Yet we see an entire graveyard for them, who buried them?
I doubt they buried each other because at the end one gravekeeper would always remain.
From that and Ai's mother we can pretty much assume that the rules regarding humanity don't apply to gravekeepers.

Rules regarding death, that is and even that is just speculation so far. HH traveled long time and never seen Grave keeper having child before and neither Yuri nor Orthus doctor as she automaticaly suspected False pregnancy instead of real one.

Not mentioned that his WISH was die happily with his family, child included (If I am not mistaken that was said explicitly ) It's far likely that Alpha could have child as part of HH wish than anything else.

I guess that princess might prove you right as she seems to be around same age as Ai, but until then it's baseless assumption.