2008-01-27, 22:25 | Link #41 | |
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2008-01-28, 01:55 | Link #42 | |
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I mean, does that count? You tell me, since _you're_ the one who has been attaching the strings. It's been an interesting observation for me that many (if not most) of those people who do so tend to make the rules for OTHERS and don't practice themselves what they preach. Therefore I always find it interesting to ask them about that. If you want my _personal_ opinion - yep, that does count. The goal should be to encourage the fans to financially support the anime industry by buying their products, in return for their work for our entertainment. I'm just doubtful that it's helpful to assume a _demanding_ stance like this, but that's just my personal opinion either. On a legal-technical angle, what we fansubbers/rippers are doing is a form of piracy, and based on this I feel hesitant to act like we have any kind of authority over how our creations are being used. But all this is drifting away into a different kind of issue. |
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2008-01-28, 03:24 | Link #43 |
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Tofu: What titles had less than 1000 copies sold in R1? Anything good, or are we just talking B-titles like Daphne in the Brilliant Blue, Gravion, etc. that you knew were crap to begin with?
I think the current problems come down to a couple factors: - The average fan gets to watch more and more anime on TV, so they don't feel the need as much to buy stuff on DVD to watch anime - Sorta the opposite way ... we don't get enough shows on commonly available channels to let your Joe Every Fan see stuff. (The large majority of anime fans still don't watch fansubs) Whereas in Japan you get to see basically everything on TV beforehand. (How are the DVD sales on stuff like IY, Bleach, Death Note, etc?) - Even in Japan I don't believe most of the money is made from DVD sales ... it's the merchandising that counts. Or money from broadcasting itself. - US barely has any of the merchandising that goes along with shows in Japan. - The average anime fan is in the age bracket with the least amount of disposable income, in comparison to Japan where most of your DVDs will be bought by Otaku who are out of school. Aaaand we're way off topic now lol... |
2008-01-28, 03:54 | Link #44 |
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@JediNight: I think it's because the R1 licensees don't know how to sell niche anime, specifically anime series that have no mainstream appeal and are by definition bad (or just average) even in the eyes of us niche anime enthusiasts. Some of the titles simply had no business doing the U.S., some of the better niche titles with little or no mainstream appeal were marketed to the casual viewer that included expensive dubbing, and some were so niche or old or specific that they didn't turn out any profit even among the "broader" niche fandom. What they should've been doing was finding good niche titles and market those specifically to the niche--to fansub watchers (no dub to cut costs)--and market mainstream titles to everyone (but mainstream successes are hard to come by; basically Weekly Shounen Jump titles by Toei, orz). All this failure because they wanted to push anime out of the niche, because they thought anime was "cool" enough for the mainstream NA consumer. All this because of the few exceptional mainstream successes that fueled unrealistic optimism and expectations.
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2008-01-28, 05:03 | Link #45 |
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Actually I don't see the niche titles dying off totally. As internet downloads become more mainstream, I expect them to basically release them as Pay-Downloads with subs only online. Cutting out the dubbing and production costs would drastically reduce the overall costs associated with releasing a title. Maybe offer an option to pay a few bucks extra for a pressed disk, or at least provide printable DVD covers that you could print from home to line your own DVD cases. Hell, then they could even do their own styling/karaoke effects if they were allowed.
The only catch to that of course then is it really comes across as a direct "competitor" to fansubs and the fairweather fans might not be willing to pay for a digital file. I would, but I like to think the worst of my fellow fan lol... |
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2008-01-28, 05:24 | Link #47 | |
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Oh, people buy those, they just don't buy from anime licensees. Last edited by cyth; 2008-01-28 at 05:40. |
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2008-01-28, 10:55 | Link #50 |
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I believe it was Ureshii's Sola 14/15 that had the overlap problem. Ayako was the other group in question, their Nagasarete Airantou had the timing problems.
I normally do. Right now life is so busy that I don't have time to delve into troubleshooting problems. I barely have enough time to fansub as it is. Maybe in about 5 months when things should calm down I will - but I'll probably forget. |
2008-01-29, 06:32 | Link #51 | |
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Not good for me to recommend things which are not fully working anymore . The last few mplayer builds I did are many months old now, though I never noticed any serious errors. Was it constantly overlapping I am guessing, instead of just minor annoyances? |
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2008-01-29, 13:08 | Link #53 | |
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MPlayer dev-SVN-r22096-4.3.0 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team Apparently there's problem with its font scaling engine.
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2008-01-29, 13:55 | Link #54 | |
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2008-01-29, 20:13 | Link #55 | |
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P.S. fontconfig is what is required if you want to be able to see the fonts in the Styles. Overlapping subs though shouldn't have anything to do with fontconfig, just some possible bug in libass. /me still has to get files |
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2008-01-30, 00:10 | Link #56 | |
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2008-02-04, 20:23 | Link #57 |
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One thing you might notice if you stuff a hardsubbed anime in a stream analyzer is that a huge portion of the bits are actually spent on the subtitles. This is slightly less of a problem when using a modern adaptive quantization scheme, but its still an atrocious waste of bits.
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2008-02-06, 15:15 | Link #58 | |
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2008-02-06, 16:28 | Link #59 |
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To emphasize this more with a good visual:
White = most bits, black = least bits. Image is from an I-frame in a 1.25 megabit Stage6 DivX encode of "Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan" that I happened to have lying around. Bitmap generated with Elecard Streameye. Notice the bit cost for the subtitles at the bottom. In particular, each white block is roughly 1300-1500 bits each. |
2008-02-06, 18:08 | Link #60 |
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As an anime viewer, I usually watch anime on my television- Some releases use a small font size (because they're usually viewed on a monitor at a close distance) so softsubs make it MUCH easier for me to view anime, because i can easily resize the font to a suitable size.
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