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View Poll Results: Ratings for Shippuuden 22-23
Perfect 10 13 12.87%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 20 19.80%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 24 23.76%
7 out of 10 : Good 19 18.81%
6 out of 10 : Average 13 12.87%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 4 3.96%
4 out of 10 : Poor 2 1.98%
3 out of 10 : Bad 2 1.98%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 0.99%
1 out of 10 : Painful 3 2.97%
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Old 2007-08-03, 09:34   Link #21
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After i saw what kind of past Sasori has i kinda feel pitty for him....but at the beginning i thought he killed his parents then i saw they have been killed by kakashi's father....
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Old 2007-08-03, 09:34   Link #22
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I gave it a 6. I mean, with an episode titled "Summer Battle", the least we could expect would be for most of it to be action packed, not flashbacks. The flashbacks were good, but they simply don't belong in an episode I was expecting more action from.
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Old 2007-08-03, 10:27   Link #23
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Decent episode. The flashbacks were good, but dragged on, should have made them shorter, Sasori missed his mom and dad, we get the point, no need to show him moving them around for minutes.

Oh, and hooray for Sakura bondage. Btw, good thing she can hold her breath for what... 3 minutes The anime team needs to realize that sometimes they can bore us to death with slow action, but other times it won't make sense. Like when Gai team did that longass ritual while Gaara was dying.

The animation was disappointing, Sakura's constant close ups of her face looked pretty bad. And Chiyo looked like a man in the flashbacks.

Naruto and Kakashi chasing Deidara is so silly it hurts. Deidara throws birds around like there's no tomorow when he's supposed to be nearly out of clay. And then every time Naruto/Kakashi evades them, so the other goes "Naruto!" or "Kakashi!". Jesus...

Ok, forget what I said about decent episode, it was the same as always. 5/10
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Old 2007-08-03, 10:40   Link #24
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Great episode. Only complain i've got that the flashbacks could been quicker.
I'm being nice and give it a 9 today.

Oh and i must certainly agree that the old songs from Naruto Part 1 was a lot better.
Goddamn i miss songs like Glued State and survival examination... and the rising fighting spirit

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Old 2007-08-03, 10:50   Link #25
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Great hour episode, everything was well timed, the second episode being entirely dedicated to the Chiyo_Sakura VS Sasori was good. The Naruto part was relevant too, and we can still see our hero being fairly naive compared to Kakashi.

Gai fights were pretty good, except for Tenten's bit. Someone said: "Tenten... well, it gets as interesting as two girls throwing stuff at each other." It summarizes it pretty well.

All in all, good episode, and definitely worth watching. 8/10.
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Old 2007-08-03, 11:03   Link #26
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At least the Sasori/Chiyo-Sakura fight is going faster then it did in the Manga.
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Old 2007-08-03, 11:19   Link #27
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These episodes were average at best. Normally, I would have given them a 4 or 5, but studio pierrot has the audacity to dub these "special". I foolishly was expecting them to go all out or at least match the other specials from part 1.

1/10
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Old 2007-08-03, 12:29   Link #28
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I thought it was pretty awesome for a Shippuden episode. I don't really understand what everyone is complaining about with the whole "storyline needs to go away" They did this in part one, in fact I remember whole episodes based on flashbacks. It sets the mood for the characters. This isn't claymore or bleach. There won't be action every second of the episode.

Anyways, anyone else think Sakura looked awesomely bloodlust crazy at the end of the episode?
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Old 2007-08-03, 12:48   Link #29
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Basically have the same opinions as everyone here, this wasn't a bad episode. The change of pace did stop this from being a really good episode. Nothing new though, letting everything dragged out too long...has been the main point of complains.

I do get the feelings that the pace is picking up though, just a little bit but it's still progress.

Anyway, I give it a 7.
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Old 2007-08-03, 12:48   Link #30
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Man you guys simply can't be satisfied....
I loved this episode, Give it a 9/10. The flashbacks were quite welcome as its all NEW material, though sakuras flashbacks were irritating, but expected.
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Old 2007-08-03, 17:33   Link #31
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Gave it a 7, this fight is gonna drag out for a while...at least this one was a double ep.
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Old 2007-08-03, 17:49   Link #32
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How do you guys feel this special compares to the previous ones in the series?
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Old 2007-08-03, 17:55   Link #33
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Huh!!!!? Hey what happen to the rest of the posts in this thread.There's several pages missing here.
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Old 2007-08-03, 18:19   Link #34
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any episode with Sasori is a win. If only all fillers were like this then part 2 wouldn't suck so bad.
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Old 2007-08-03, 18:28   Link #35
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Now correct me if I am wrong but... in the manga version, wasnt it implied that Sasori killed his parents in order to turn them into puppets? Been a while, so I cant really be sure, but it just seems to me the "nice kid gone corrupt" impression the anime is trying to give off is wrong. Or is my memory just playing tricks with me? >_>
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Old 2007-08-03, 18:37   Link #36
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Now correct me if I am wrong but... in the manga version, wasnt it implied that Sasori killed his parents in order to turn them into puppets? Been a while, so I cant really be sure, but it just seems to me the "nice kid gone corrupt" impression the anime is trying to give off is wrong. Or is my memory just playing tricks with me? >_>
It was revealed in ep.11 that the white fang killed sasori's father. I guessing his mother died in battle as well. Apparently, sasori used puppet replicas of his parents to placate his longing for them, but at some point they stopped fulfilling those desires. Cue decades of terror and self loathing unleashed onto the world.

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Old 2007-08-03, 20:59   Link #37
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Well I didn't think this one was that bad. They did get some good fighting in there. Plus goes to show how intelligent Chiyo is even turning her own arm into a puppet to get in a chakra shield. Definitely a battle of incredibly skilled puppet users. Feel kind've bad for Kankuro since right now he's well away from their league. Probably a good step would be to make his own puppets.

Yeah Naruto....they really are getting stupid at this point. Constantly yelling the same thing. Seriously if they didn't feel like they had to show him in every episode it would be fine to leave him be for a while. Doesn't seem either that Gai's team will be done soon. At this point we could have the Temari reinforcements making it in time to help them out. Haha just imagine her saving Ten Ten.

Guess we found out more about Sasori. One of those creepy genius types. Losing his parents at such a young age and trying to recreate that with puppets. Guy with a sad past that's for sure. Though can't wait for Sakura to knock him through a wall. And damn that Kazekage is going to be tough. Sasori has a ridiculous amount of power since each of those puppets has their own chakra so he doesn't get drained as much as Chiyo is.

Can't wait for next week. This is probably the best Shippuden we've seen so far.
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Old 2007-08-03, 21:30   Link #38
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sasori's backstory was really very sad, it appears kakashi's pa turned him into the monster he is now by killing his folks.
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Old 2007-08-03, 21:40   Link #39
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I gave the Episode a 7. It wasn't perfect but it was good.

The focus on Sasori's back-story is a major plus for me. The concept of turning his parents into puppets to satisfy his longing for parental affection, it's a mix of touching and creepy.

I liked Chiyo's "puppet arm" idea, as well as the "chakra shields" in the puppets and the general idea that "human puppets can use chakra and techniques". It does make Kankuro look a bit novice in comparison though

The battle animations for Chiyo-Sakura vs Sasori have so far been very nice.

The animations for the clone battles were nice, but as someone else mentioned, they aren't moving the story along at all. At least they kept it to a minimum, a few minutes out of a 40 minute episode isn't too bad.

The bad part though: Naruto, the title character, becoming staler with every passing second. The chase scenes are going nowhere and have thus far taken up more time than they should have. I don't mind one or two shots of Naruto chasing Deidara (with Kakashi in tow), just to remind us what's going on with them, but I don't like the amount of time being dedicated to it. It's also very notable that the animations of Kakashi and Naruto "jumping" through the logs has plenty of 'shoddy animation' moments.
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Old 2007-08-03, 21:53   Link #40
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Usually I'm pretty sick of fillers but like most people said, these were pretty good. One complaint is that in episode 23, the flashback with Sasori playing with the puppets took a bit too long but nonetheless episode was good.
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