Mahouka LN - Steeplechase Chapter (Volume 13) Discussion / Poll

[Jamjam]

I don't know why but Izumi and Kasumi seems like immature spoiled brats to me

[hakazee]

Originally Posted by EvI

if izumi falls for him than that would make her a rival to mayumi and...oh wait that's great, two sister trying to win over a man... oy oy author-san time to bring this up huh... hahahaha

How about Kasumi ?
Anyone ship him with Tatsuya ?

I'm not sure if the author will set Kasumi x Takuma.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Jamjam

I don't know why but Izumi and Kasumi seems like immature spoiled brats to me

They aren't the heir to the Saegusa. While they are strong in their own right they aren't considered a prodigy like Mayumi was said to be. There's just less expectations on them compared to their siblings which allows them to be more normal teenage girls.

[kfcpanda]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

They aren't the heir to the Saegusa. While they are strong in their own right they aren't considered a prodigy like Mayumi was said to be. There's just less expectations on them compared to their siblings which allows them to be more normal teenage girls.

mayumi's not the heir either

and they are known as prodigies too--just they have to be together

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by hakazee

How about Kasumi ?
Anyone ship him with Tatsuya ?

I'm not sure if the author will set Kasumi x Takuma.

Well she does show a sense of rivalry to Tatsuya which is kinda pointless.

Well I said this a while ago; Tatsuya and Mayumi's political marriage is close to impossible due to Koichi's schemes.

I drop this discussion because I thought it would be pointless but I wouldnt be pampz21 if I didnt say this.

Dont you find Erika's plot armor really stupid?
I mean she the only 100 family that is a weed. Her genes are supposed to be far superior than Shizuku, Honoka or any bloom?
I know the fans wants some bickering/comedy scenes with Leo? But the author went in and seperate Miki and Mizuki(shes with Tatsuya now =) )

[anonfr]

Originally Posted by hakazee

How about Kasumi ?
Anyone ship him with Tatsuya ?

I'm not sure if the author will set Kasumi x Takuma.

Nope, as for Underclassmen it's Ayako all the way!

I kind of do want to see some Fumiya ships. Like him with one of the Saegusa twins, or both! in my hopelessly unrealistic scenerio where Tatsuya can get Miyuki and Ayako, Fumiya should get the twins too himself. It's only fair.

I'd mostly just find it highly amusing if he got his own ship.

I kind of want Minami to get her own ship too. She could be a new ship for Tatsuya, or Leo, or anyone. Just, something interesting about her as a character would be nice. She's been around for a full volume but it's like I don't know her as a character outside of her being a little uptight and her chore battles with Miyuki. And her shipping Mayumi X Tatsuya in front of Miyuki, that was golden. But I don't feel like I really know her. I'd like to know her.

Originally Posted by pampz21

Dont you find Erika's plot armor really stupid?
I mean she the only 100 family that is a weed. Her genes are supposed to be far superior than Shizuku, Honoka or any bloom?
I know the fans wants some bickering/comedy scenes with Leo? But the author went in and seperate Miki and Mizuki(shes with Tatsuya now =) )

I'm actually not sure how I feel about Erika's plot armor personally. I mean, she's a weed, but she's not secretly a Nuclear Warhead/Military Officer/ Batman like Tatsuya is. She's relatively normal compared to a lot of the cast, you know, depending on how you define "relative". But despite being a weed she's consistently useful and a surprisingly great combatant. Actually, taking the fact she's a weed into consideration she's an amazing combatant compared to most people. If she was in a samurai story instead of a magical one she'd probably be one of the more OP characters. But it's just sort of strange, because Tatsuya changed the system, to the point that the system isn't even sure if they ranked him correctly, they're not even sure if they're able to rank him correctly. But Erika isn't like that, she's a weed because that's her abilities, but she's still a surprisingly great asset in most combat situations. I guess it is sort of ridiculous.

Also is she the only weed from the 100 families? Miki was formerly, and she might be the only current named character from the 100 families. But after Miki was introduced I made sort of a mental note. It sort of bothered me, how her being a weed from a 100 families didn't bother anyone. If she was the only weed from the 100 families wouldn't she be extra ridiculed, or targeted, or noticed? Wouldn't "It's unusual for someone from the 100 families to be a course 2 student" be stated? With all the infodumps and what not. It sort of lead me to believe she wasn't the only one, and it's not that unusual, and Miki briefly reinforced that. Now, who knows. I just feel like, in most settings, if there's an "Elite" and a lower class, and someone who should be Elite ends up lower class, like Erika can be considered, it's a target of interest that get's brought up, get's noticed, get's noted at the very least. But it never was.

I didn't understand the reference about the author going into seperate Miki and Mizuki, I'm either slow today, or that was worded a bit strangely.

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by anonfr

Nope, as for Underclassmen it's Ayako all the way!



I'm actually not sure how I feel about Erika's plot armor personally. I mean, she's a weed, but she's not secretly a Nuclear Warhead/Military Officer/ Batman like Tatsuya is. She's relatively normal compared to a lot of the cast, you know, depending on how you define "relative". But despite being a weed she's consistently useful and a surprisingly great combatant. Actually, taking the fact she's a weed into consideration she's an amazing combatant compared to most people. If she was in a samurai story instead of a magical one she'd probably be one of the more OP characters. But it's just sort of strange, because Tatsuya changed the system, to the point that the system isn't even sure if they ranked him correctly, they're not even sure if they're able to rank him correctly. But Erika isn't like that, she's a weed because that's her abilities, but she's still a surprisingly great asset in most combat situations. I guess it is sort of ridiculous.

Also is she the only weed from the 100 families? Miki was formerly, and she might be the only current named character from the 100 families. But after Miki was introduced I made sort of a mental note. It sort of bothered me, how her being a weed from a 100 families didn't bother anyone. If she was the only weed from the 100 families wouldn't she be extra ridiculed, or targeted, or noticed? Wouldn't "It's unusual for someone from the 100 families to be a course 2 student" be stated? With all the infodumps and what not. It sort of lead me to believe she wasn't the only one, and it's not that unusual, and Miki briefly reinforced that. Now, who knows. I just feel like, in most settings, if there's an "Elite" and a lower class, and someone who should be Elite ends up lower class, like Erika can be considered, it's a target of interest that get's brought up, get's noticed, get's noted at the very least. But it never was.

I didn't understand the reference about the author going into seperate Miki and Mizuki, I'm either slow today, or that was worded a bit strangely.

Tatsuya mention this in vol. 1 that he never heard of Erika that belongs to the Chiba and Miki isnt apart of 100 family its stated in vol. 7. Meaning Erika is the only 100 family that is a weed thats been introduce in the series which i find weird. Which i want to find a meaning as to why shes the only one?

[Diocar]

It makes sense that she is a weed.
Like tats erika technical scores don t reflect her fighting power. Basically she is a cqc specialist whose magic power isn t nothing special (like most cqc ppl) but combined with other abilities makes her a fierce fighter.
If you think on it, all the talented magicians use some type of ranged spells and focus completly on their magic while the less talented combine other skills with their magic.

And for god's sake mayumi is the only political advantageous marriage. Even If koichi is caught the saegusa power will continue, the diference is they will have a diferent head who might have even more reasons to consolidate an aliance with the yotsubas.

[hakazee]

Originally Posted by anonfr

I kind of want Minami to get her own ship too. She could be a new ship for Tatsuya, or Leo, or anyone.

That would be very difficult for Leo.
He's not from any prestigious family.
I think he will end up alone.

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by hakazee

That would be very difficult for Leo.
He's not from any prestigious family.
I think he will end up alone.

I think its a pretty good deal Minami X Leo they are sempai X Kohai. Even Tatsuya doesnt have a ship like that =)

Originally Posted by Diocar

It makes sense that she is a weed.
Like tats erika technical scores don t reflect her fighting power. Basically she is a cqc specialist whose magic power isn t nothing special (like most cqc ppl) but combined with other abilities makes her a fierce fighter.
If you think on it, all the talented magicians use some type of ranged spells and focus completly on their magic while the less talented combine other skills with their magic.

And for god's sake mayumi is the only political advantageous marriage. Even If koichi is caught the saegusa power will continue, the diference is they will have a diferent head who might have even more reasons to consolidate an aliance with the yotsubas.

This is why I dont understand Tomitsuka is known as range zero. Koichi is the current head meaning the family is supporting whats he been doing even if they dont know. Beside why would the Yotsuba marry off Tatsuya if he isnt a Yotsuba!!

[kusabireika]

But tatsuya inherit the super heavyweight psion count if I remember if any of 10 clan marry tatsuya that offspring will get that massive psion count if I remember correctly?

[Chris38]

Originally Posted by kusabireika

But tatsuya inherit the super heavyweight psion count if I remember if any of 10 clan marry tatsuya that offspring will get that massive psion count if I remember correctly?

Yes, except that psion count doesn't have that much weight in the current magic system criteria, so I don't think that the other clans would be interested in him, if he only had that...

[IceHism]

Every time i think of a marriage between Tatsuya and someone else in the series, it reminds me of how it will be exactly like the marriage between Tatsuya's father and mother. There won't be a single inch of love in it.

Though i suppose this is a sad fate that awaits everyone in the ten master clans.

[Jamjam]

Leo is for Erika
Mikihiko is for Mizuki

I think the author has emphasized on this point although it may have a complete turnabout later but so far, they are the clear love teams.

oh and I think kasumi (or is it Izumi) have thing with Shippou. Who knows maybe one of them will be linked with Fumiya.

[kusabireika]

Originally Posted by Chris38

Yes, except that psion count doesn't have that much weight in the current magic system criteria, so I don't think that the other clans would be interested in him, if he only had that...

True, now my question is does strategic spell inheritable lets say tatsuya has offspring do that offspring inherit the decomposition/material burst or regrowth?

Like miyuki inherit her mother the mental interference ?

[revenant]

Originally Posted by kusabireika

True, now my question is does strategic spell inheritable lets say tatsuya has offspring do that offspring inherit the decomposition/material burst or regrowth?

Like miyuki inherit her mother the mental interference ?

And Tatsuya didn't. I doubt that BS magics are inheritable. More likely that types of magics are inheritable (like with Yotsuba -- mental interference or calculation area, or Juumonjis barrier magic)

[Chimurry]

BS is part of DNA, Yotsuba carries 2 strong types, you guys and Pmp I dont like to open argue like few weeks cuz drive to disaster in the forum, but Mayumi and the twins are Political assets, just like that, thats the way its in RL World, take Euro Asian Royal and Feuds as example, even now its common practice between CEOs and company owners adding marriage, series like Magi you could find about it, Itsuwa Mio are more interested in position than love, her house most likely are on top 10 cuz her SC class, if she die or ill severly her house will go back to other 18, We not sure if Koichi knew Tats underground when they send Katsuto with marriage Mayumi offer, but now, if Kuroba head didint known Tats BS he could be interested in fix Ayako with Tats, this doesnt necessary mean marriage, we ready see on Vol 13 spoilers they have strong ambitions for power ups lineages, the chances of another "fail" like Tats are minimal as we see Miyuki example. BTW: they are 2nd cousins grade?

[pampz21]

Originally Posted by Jamjam

Leo is for Erika
Mikihiko is for Mizuki

I think the author has emphasized on this point although it may have a complete turnabout later but so far, they are the clear love teams.

oh and I think kasumi (or is it Izumi) have thing with Shippou. Who knows maybe one of them will be linked with Fumiya.

I can only smile when I see this.
Like Tomitsuka, Erika has her own Harem the same with Tatsuya.

BS magic arent inheritable; because no one in Yotsuba specialize in decomposition and restoration.
Even Maya didnt inherit a mental magic; but attain strong light magic.

[Chimurry]

Originally Posted by pampz21

I can only smile when I see this.
Like Tomitsuka, Erika has her own Harem the same with Tatsuya.

BS magic arent inheritable; because no one in Yotsuba specialize in decomposition and restoration.
Even Maya didnt inherit a mental magic; but attain strong light magic.

What about Suzune BS?

[Awrya]

Originally Posted by Chimurry

What about Suzune BS?

It wasn't BS magic, it was a family trait of the Ichihana family.
Seeing Rupture, the first magical institute most likely specialized in manipulation of fluids.
Similar to how magicians from the fourth magical institute have an inherent aptitude in mental manipulation or manipulation of information structures.