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Ithekro · 2009-01-03, 17:42

First season of FMP was GONZO, not KyoAni. It has lots of fanservice shots...Fumoffu had very little, relatively speaking.

Tyabann · 2009-01-03, 17:58

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

If there is ecchi fanservice in a KyoAni product (so far) it has been from the primary source material, not their own reaction....save maybe the twins in FMP: The Second Raid...but that was just altering the original fanservice from male to female (good move considering the fanbase). Consider they made Kanon and AIR clean from their ero-game basis...(of course the ero was tacked on for Key, as shown in CLANNAD, the ero-free VN they were aiming for inthe first place)

CLANNAD isn't ero-free. Visual-wise, yeah. Dialogue... not so much.

aroduc · 2009-01-03, 18:51

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Originally Posted by Ithekro

First season of FMP was GONZO, not KyoAni. It has lots of fanservice shots...Fumoffu had very little, relatively speaking.

Uh huh. There was an episode of Fumoffu where the punchline was two straight minutes of cheesecake bra and panty shots of all the girls, and TSR is chock full of ones for the twins as well as a few for Chidori without even touching the DVD episode of Tessa wandering around in her underwear.

Tyabann · 2009-01-03, 18:55

So yeah, not entirely free of fanservice.

It might depend on what station is broadcasting this, since Clannad had pretty much none even when the source material called for it.

brocko · 2009-01-03, 19:41

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Originally Posted by aroduc

Uh huh. There was an episode of Fumoffu where the punchline was two straight minutes of cheesecake bra and panty shots of all the girls, and TSR is chock full of ones for the twins as well as a few for Chidori without even touching the DVD episode of Tessa wandering around in her underwear.

haha I stand corrected. It's been awhile since i last saw FMP!, so it must've flew by my head. I guess the KyoAni skirts of steel ain't as tough as it sounds afterall

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You can't have Skirts of Steel if they aren't wearing skirts in the first place.

Natch.

Touche

Skane · 2009-01-04, 00:50

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Originally Posted by brocko

haha I stand corrected. It's been awhile since i last saw FMP!, so it must've flew by my head. I guess the KyoAni skirts of steel ain't as tough as it sounds afterall

You can't have Skirts of Steel if they aren't wearing skirts in the first place.

Natch.

Ithekro · 2009-01-04, 01:17

I was refering to the skirt flips mainly, which seemed to be gone from the KyoAni FMP. The walking about in and out of their underwear I was treating as a seperate issue as that is more useful in the settings they are presented in rather than the "accidental" fan service used in other anime.

But we still have about a week to go before we find out what Munto will be like after six years of remission.

orion · 2009-01-04, 06:25

That last outfit Yumemi wore in the OVA left very little to the imagination. No skirt flipping necessary.

Skyfall · 2009-01-04, 07:29

Hey now, you are making it sound as if she actually wore something indecent, while that is not the case at all

(case in point: image). I actually liked the cozy simplicity of her last outfit, which consisted of a white sweater reaching down to her thighs, and i felt it matched her image nicely

(And would be quite unrealistic if that actually flipped in the first place). The movies didn't have a single shot of fanservice anyway.

Though it seems they might want to add something of that flavor, seeing the changes her school uniform's design has underwent ... a shame, i liked the original one. (Assuming i would want to look, given how horrible the TV series animation looks in the first place >_>)

musume_no_hoshi · 2009-01-04, 08:05

If we see the OVA as 'original material', there's no call for fanservice, just like Clannad. Maybe we'll get one or two shots similar to Kotomi and Ryou doing that back to back excercise from some episode.

orion · 2009-01-04, 11:10

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Originally Posted by Skyfall

Hey now, you are making it sound as if she actually wore something indecent, while that is not the case at all

(case in point: image). I actually liked the cozy simplicity of her last outfit, which consisted of a white sweater reaching down to her thighs, and i felt it matched her image nicely

(And would be quite unrealistic if that actually flipped in the first place). The movies didn't have a single shot of fanservice anyway.

Though it seems they might want to add something of that flavor, seeing the changes her school uniform's design has underwent ... a shame, i liked the original one. (Assuming i would want to look, given how horrible the TV series animation looks in the first place >_>)

It's a tight outfit with a short hemline. Those type of clothes leave nothing to the imagination despite the fog. And it's redesign is even shorter and more revealing.

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Originally Posted by musume_no_hoshi

If we see the OVA as 'original material', there's no call for fanservice, just like Clannad. Maybe we'll get one or two shots similar to Kotomi and Ryou doing that back to back excercise from some episode.

Don't forget Nayuki's clothes changing moment in Kanon.

Skyfall · 2009-01-04, 11:47

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Originally Posted by orion

It's a tight outfit with a short hemline. Those type of clothes leave nothing to the imagination despite the fog. And it's redesign is even shorter and more revealing.

Sorry, i am going to have to heavily disagree here, at least the way you are wording it. You are quite severally misusing the terms 'revealing' and 'leaving nothing to imagination'.

orion · 2009-01-04, 11:54

It's not a misuse.

Just look at the new design of that outfit. You could get her bra, hip and waist size from that outfit if you had other reference measurements. It's skintight.

With that dress only stooping is allowed.

Skyfall · 2009-01-04, 11:59

If we go by that 'definition', same concept applies to almost every single anime female out there. I simply can not agree to your assertion here; i am slightly bewildered you found anything fanservice-y about that image at all. So yes, given the context i indeed think you are misusing the terms. I do not agree to the concept that an outfit actually showing some curves (and it isn't as bad as you make it sound) is 'leaving nothing to imagination'. It leaves plenty, without one having to wonder about her gender at the same time.

The new outfit has become skimpier indeed (especially the school uniforms, almost ridiculously so), but the one she is wearing in the image i posted above is about as 'normal' as can reasonably get.

orion · 2009-01-04, 21:13

But you can even see an imprint of 1/2 of her groin in one of the shots as she is shown taking a step (redesigned outfit). Not too many dresses in real life go that far unless they are skintight.

The one you posted had a short hemline too and is prob the same length as the redesigned one.

Edit: But you know, the redesigned outfit would prob be more inline with what girls actually wear and more realistic (skintight). Even in the next to last chapter it was blowing too much in the wind.

Knight · 2009-01-06, 15:10

Did they release any info on what the OP and ED would be?

And does anybody have a textless version of this image:

Vegard Aune · 2009-01-06, 15:18

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Originally Posted by Knight

Did they release any info on what the OP and ED would be?

Both the opening- and ending-single seems to be available for preorder from cdjapan, so unless they've got the titles and credits completely wrong, the opening theme is ...some song... by eufonius, and the ending-theme, is apparently called "Hikari to Yami to Toki Hate", performed by Ceui.

Dagger · 2009-01-07, 03:14

Uh, wow, her legs are waaaaay out of proportion in that image.

Domo · 2009-01-07, 06:01

Well I always enjoy the animation quality that Kyoto Animation brings to its animes. I also feel Kyoto Animation has done a good job in terms of compressing Key's Visual Novel stories into animes.

I haven't seen the Munto OVA yet, but I look forward to watching this series, despite it not being top on my agenda.
While I do find it quite frustration Kyoto Animation hasn't decided to declare an airing date for Haruhi 2 or make an announcement of starting the 4th Full Metal Panic series / Key's Little Busters, I find the Haruhi and FMP! fanboys/girls to be unbelievably unreasonable by shunning down a series before it's even aired.

Sheba · 2009-01-07, 06:03

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Originally Posted by Vegard Aune

and the ending-theme, is apparently called "Hikari to Yami to Toki Hate", performed by Ceui.

Same artist as the one who sang the sola themes? I am rejoiced.

2009-01-03, 17:42	Link #121
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	First season of FMP was GONZO, not KyoAni. It has lots of fanservice shots...Fumoffu had very little, relatively speaking. __________________

2009-01-04, 01:17	Link #127
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	I was refering to the skirt flips mainly, which seemed to be gone from the KyoAni FMP. The walking about in and out of their underwear I was treating as a seperate issue as that is more useful in the settings they are presented in rather than the "accidental" fan service used in other anime. But we still have about a week to go before we find out what Munto will be like after six years of remission. __________________

2009-01-04, 06:25	Link #128
orion Waiting for more taiyuki! Join Date: Jan 2004	That last outfit Yumemi wore in the OVA left very little to the imagination. No skirt flipping necessary. __________________

2009-01-04, 07:29	Link #129
Skyfall Lost in my dreams... Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 37	Hey now, you are making it sound as if she actually wore something indecent, while that is not the case at all (case in point: image). I actually liked the cozy simplicity of her last outfit, which consisted of a white sweater reaching down to her thighs, and i felt it matched her image nicely (And would be quite unrealistic if that actually flipped in the first place). The movies didn't have a single shot of fanservice anyway. Though it seems they might want to add something of that flavor, seeing the changes her school uniform's design has underwent ... a shame, i liked the original one. (Assuming i would want to look, given how horrible the TV series animation looks in the first place >_>) __________________

2009-01-04, 08:05	Link #130
musume_no_hoshi ~Eternal Bakaness~ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Cheesecake wonderland	If we see the OVA as 'original material', there's no call for fanservice, just like Clannad. Maybe we'll get one or two shots similar to Kotomi and Ryou doing that back to back excercise from some episode. __________________

2009-01-03, 18:55	Link #124
Tyabann Homo Ludens Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Age: 34	So yeah, not entirely free of fanservice. It might depend on what station is broadcasting this, since Clannad had pretty much none even when the source material called for it.

2009-01-04, 11:54	Link #133
orion Waiting for more taiyuki! Join Date: Jan 2004	It's not a misuse. Just look at the new design of that outfit. You could get her bra, hip and waist size from that outfit if you had other reference measurements. It's skintight. With that dress only stooping is allowed. __________________

2009-01-04, 11:59	Link #134
Skyfall Lost in my dreams... Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 37	If we go by that 'definition', same concept applies to almost every single anime female out there. I simply can not agree to your assertion here; i am slightly bewildered you found anything fanservice-y about that image at all. So yes, given the context i indeed think you are misusing the terms. I do not agree to the concept that an outfit actually showing some curves (and it isn't as bad as you make it sound) is 'leaving nothing to imagination'. It leaves plenty, without one having to wonder about her gender at the same time. The new outfit has become skimpier indeed (especially the school uniforms, almost ridiculously so), but the one she is wearing in the image i posted above is about as 'normal' as can reasonably get. __________________

2009-01-04, 21:13	Link #135
orion Waiting for more taiyuki! Join Date: Jan 2004	But you can even see an imprint of 1/2 of her groin in one of the shots as she is shown taking a step (redesigned outfit). Not too many dresses in real life go that far unless they are skintight. The one you posted had a short hemline too and is prob the same length as the redesigned one. Edit: But you know, the redesigned outfit would prob be more inline with what girls actually wear and more realistic (skintight). Even in the next to last chapter it was blowing too much in the wind. __________________ Last edited by orion; 2009-01-04 at 21:43.

2009-01-06, 15:10	Link #136
Knight Eternal Love Join Date: Jul 2007	Did they release any info on what the OP and ED would be? And does anybody have a textless version of this image:

2009-01-07, 03:14	Link #138
Dagger Nitro+ fan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hyogo	Uh, wow, her legs are waaaaay out of proportion in that image.

2009-01-07, 06:01	Link #139
Domo それで便座カーバー! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Australia. The land of slow broadband speeds and non-existant anime DVD retailers.	Well I always enjoy the animation quality that Kyoto Animation brings to its animes. I also feel Kyoto Animation has done a good job in terms of compressing Key's Visual Novel stories into animes. I haven't seen the Munto OVA yet, but I look forward to watching this series, despite it not being top on my agenda. While I do find it quite frustration Kyoto Animation hasn't decided to declare an airing date for Haruhi 2 or make an announcement of starting the 4th Full Metal Panic series / Key's Little Busters, I find the Haruhi and FMP! fanboys/girls to be unbelievably unreasonable by shunning down a series before it's even aired.