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Dengar · 2012-08-25, 20:43

(hypothetical and totally not indicative of any actual fact)

Tobi is [insert a random name of somebody we don't know (yet) here]

Mystery solved.

GDB · 2012-08-25, 21:07

Again, that's not a mystery. A mystery can be solved. If the character hasn't been introduced in some fashion, then it's impossible to solve it.

Dengar · 2012-08-25, 21:39

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Originally Posted by GDB

Again, that's not a mystery. A mystery can be solved. If the character hasn't been introduced in some fashion, then it's impossible to solve it.

Of course it is. The solution is "We don't know this guy.".

beyondsaving · 2012-08-25, 21:42

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Originally Posted by Dengar

Of course it is. The solution is "We don't know this guy.".

Keep in mind the manga is titled, "Naruto" so why would the current MAIN VILLAIN in the manga NARUTO be someone that NARUTO doesn't know... Unlike time travelling sasuke. I mean come on! It makes as much sense as "We don't know this guy"

Sheesh.

yakumo-chan · 2012-08-25, 21:48

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Originally Posted by Dengar

Of course it is. The solution is "We don't know this guy.".

The last page of Chapter 598 is...

WHO ARE YOU!!??

Dengar · 2012-08-25, 22:25

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Originally Posted by beyondsaving

Keep in mind the manga is titled, "Naruto" so why would the current MAIN VILLAIN in the manga NARUTO be someone that NARUTO doesn't know... Unlike time travelling sasuke. I mean come on! It makes as much sense as "We don't know this guy"

Sheesh.

You know, that actually makes a lot of sense.

Therefore, Tobi can only be Zabuza.

GDB · 2012-08-25, 23:25

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Originally Posted by Dengar

Of course it is. The solution is "We don't know this guy.".

Clearly you don't read literary fiction, because that's not how the mystery genre works. You're applying real world mysteries to works of fiction. The only readers who would want a mystery character's reveal to end with "new character never before introduced or hinted at" are those who just want to laugh at people who spent time coming up with actual theories.

Dengar · 2012-08-25, 23:32

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Originally Posted by GDB

Clearly you don't read literary fiction, because that's not how the mystery genre works. You're applying real world mysteries to works of fiction. The only readers who would want a mystery character's reveal to end with "new character never before introduced or hinted at" are those who just want to laugh at people who spent time coming up with actual theories.

And here I was thinking Naruto was a Shonen Fighting manga.

Destined_Fate · 2012-08-25, 23:55

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Originally Posted by beyondsaving

Keep in mind the manga is titled, "Naruto" so why would the current MAIN VILLAIN in the manga NARUTO be someone that NARUTO doesn't know... Unlike time travelling sasuke. I mean come on! It makes as much sense as "We don't know this guy"

Sheesh.

So... Naruto knew all the other villans when they first showed up? Right.

beyondsaving · 2012-08-26, 00:39

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Originally Posted by Dengar

And here I was thinking Naruto was a Shonen Fighting manga.

A Shonen manga with 598 chapters of backstory. Not to mention all the secrets and history hinted at in the ninja world naruto inhabits, and has clearly displayed in the past...

yakumo-chan · 2012-08-26, 01:49

Again.... the last page of chapter 598 is "WHO ARE YOU"
which means TObi is someone we already knew from the past,

since Kakashi and Gai are thinking what we think, its pretty obvious now who is TObi now....

I have this theory that the other "Dimension" Kamui created is a Dimension where Time "STOPS",

Madara trained Obito there

Dengar · 2012-08-26, 05:07

^That's about as fickle as an argument can get. Wanting to know who someone wearing a mask is, is NORMAL.

mystogan · 2012-08-26, 07:11

it's the first time we ever saw the mangekyou sharingan of the masked man and it's the same as kakashi, no doubt they both possess the eyes of the same man obito,

and now naruto shattered the mask, looks like we will know the biggest villan in the next chapter

Artimus_Prime · 2012-08-26, 09:00

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Originally Posted by The Small One

Or we have a complete chapter of Kakashi, Gai, original-Naruto and Bee standing in the normal dimension and waiting for Tobi to reappear, which he doesn't because he is unconscious.

Makes me wonder: Does the "a Kagebunshin that disappears transfers his knowledge" works between dimensions?

my answer would be yes...but I'm expecting for tobi to return to the normal dimension just like when kakashi sent the rasengan and it smashed tobis arm

prakash123 · 2012-08-26, 09:01

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Originally Posted by Sasheks

Kishi has a nice way of unmasking his characters.

Spoiler for :

Spoiler for Tobi is Haku!:

Anyone expecting Kakashi's face to be revealed in a similar fashion?

guys see the pattern???

haku and tobi both wear masks
haku looked like a girl sounded like one too but was a guy
tobi maybe looks like a guy sounds like one but might actually be a girl

*coughs coughs RIN coughs coughs*

lol just saying

mystogan · 2012-08-26, 10:20

^that's a good comparison...... lol

itachi-san314 · 2012-08-26, 12:42

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Originally Posted by beyondsaving

Keep in mind the manga is titled, "Naruto" so why would the current MAIN VILLAIN in the manga NARUTO be someone that NARUTO doesn't know... Unlike time travelling sasuke. I mean come on! It makes as much sense as "We don't know this guy"

Sheesh.

this doesnt make any sense. remember orochimaru and nagato? they had close ties to hiruzan and jiraiya, not naruto. and look at edo-madara. his closest tie so far is oonoki

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Originally Posted by yakumo-chan

Again.... the last page of chapter 598 is "WHO ARE YOU"
which means TObi is someone we already knew from the past

not necessarily. naruto was off-put by tobi claiming to be nobody. it doesn't jive with naruto's philosophy in which everyone matters. at this point, it's clear that naruto will not know tobi no matter who he is. naruto is just after an actual identity for him so that he can use narutism on him and change his mind. getting to know him is the first step toward conversion

prakash123 · 2012-08-26, 12:59

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kamui

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Space%E...Time_Migration

guys check this out.i think this can clear the air about tobi's eye.2 different techs.so i guess tobi has been using his normal sharingan for space time migration, but he hasnt used kamui yet....kamui is MS tech it also proves under clsssification which eye uses what tech....it also states under users that kakashi has only used kamui and tobi only space time migration

Mr. DJ · 2012-08-26, 14:31

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Originally Posted by yakumo-chan

The last page of Chapter 598 is...

WHO ARE YOU!!??

...I heard Christian Bale's Batman

Obito being Tobi makes sense...but seems too obvious now *scratches head* ugh...

beyondsaving · 2012-08-26, 18:02

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this doesnt make any sense.

My point, exactly!

2012-08-26, 01:49	Link #131
yakumo-chan Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Behind You! Age: 33	Again.... the last page of chapter 598 is "WHO ARE YOU" which means TObi is someone we already knew from the past, since Kakashi and Gai are thinking what we think, its pretty obvious now who is TObi now.... I have this theory that the other "Dimension" Kamui created is a Dimension where Time "STOPS", Madara trained Obito there __________________

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mystogan The Lost Lamb Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: in Darkness	it's the first time we ever saw the mangekyou sharingan of the masked man and it's the same as kakashi, no doubt they both possess the eyes of the same man obito, and now naruto shattered the mask, looks like we will know the biggest villan in the next chapter __________________

2012-08-26, 10:20	Link #136
mystogan The Lost Lamb Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: in Darkness	^that's a good comparison...... lol __________________

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Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	(hypothetical and totally not indicative of any actual fact) Tobi is [insert a random name of somebody we don't know (yet) here] Mystery solved.

2012-08-25, 21:07	Link #122
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Again, that's not a mystery. A mystery can be solved. If the character hasn't been introduced in some fashion, then it's impossible to solve it.

2012-08-26, 05:07	Link #132
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	^That's about as fickle as an argument can get. Wanting to know who someone wearing a mask is, is NORMAL.

2012-08-26, 12:59	Link #138
prakash123 Member Join Date: Jan 2012	http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Kamui http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Space%E...Time_Migration guys check this out.i think this can clear the air about tobi's eye.2 different techs.so i guess tobi has been using his normal sharingan for space time migration, but he hasnt used kamui yet....kamui is MS tech it also proves under clsssification which eye uses what tech....it also states under users that kakashi has only used kamui and tobi only space time migration