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As it is I’ve got a 2300 word or so brief intro that sets up our launch into the main plot written. It's still rough but it can be read as a word doc here if you’re so inclined, but it has little real plot and it’s mostly just meant to serve as a cool intro fight scene for our group even if it is a bit of a curb stomp and it doesn’t show all the chars planned either. Quote:
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Senior Random Shadowy Figure: Hmm we'll need to watch him if he shows any suspicions movements... you know what to do. Random Shadowy Figure: Of course leave it to me! Quote:
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Behold one of my planed OCs and as a bonus some video of his inspiration in action.
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Okay, so this is not always true, its an excuse I sometimes use to explain to the other members of the world why Keroko has powers that shouldn't appear in that world (if she has them) the discovery of Nanoha gave me a new excuse, which I happilly abuse when inserting Keroko into the Negima storyline. Quote:
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2008-05-26, 16:20 | Link #323 |
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AtomicoX's OC Profile List
For timeline explanations refer too: http://ocnano.wikidot.com/atomicox-s...tales-and-fotr Marksman Tales OC's Spoiler for Vic:
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If you find balance issues or the like, don't hesitate to PM me.
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We don't know anything about the book's previous meisters save for the fact that the Wolks vaguely recall that Hayate treats them unlike any of their previous masters. With this in mind, it's highly likely that every master of the Tome prior to Hayate tried to complete it using the Wolkenritter to gather power from LCs. This time, however, the bureau has the opportunity to gain the cooperation of the book's meister and possibly debug it (keep in mind that the bureau doesn't know the book can't be debugged prior to activation). So long as there was a 1% chance of saving Hayate--and obviously there was--any good honest man would do everything in his power to save her. But what does Gil do? "Oh well, poor girl's picked up the Tome, too bad for her. We'll just ignore all chances of gaining her cooperation and fixing the damn thing and sentence her to an eternal Deep Freeze once she hits 11 or so. But hey, at least she'll be happy with her new family for the one pathetic year she has left before we mind-rape her and stick her in the fridge!" How anybody in the entire fandom could possibly mistake Gil for one of the good guys is entirely beyond me. And of course the Tome is too tempting a target for the real Big Bad of the season to keep his hands off, so of course Gil's trying to claim its' power for himself. He's just smart enough to have a convincing cover story ready when Chrono busts his operation, then gets the mages to clean up his own mess for him while he retires in comfort instead of being executed like he should have been.
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2008-05-26, 17:03 | Link #327 |
物語は、もう、おしまい……?
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Estavali's Halls of the Night Sky (Cadian Outpost)
Shockingly, I finally mustered enough resolve to actually put my OCs on writing. Will wonders ever cease? Maybe the next thing coming is a proper OC post, and the Moon will be draped blue the next time she graces our skies .
In any case, here shall the Halls of the Night Sky stand, an outpost for my "children". Expect updates.... whenever the Hammer hits hard enough . Character Profiles ~ Yunie Sednar and Evalanthi Notes On translator devices Of Suuwal and Shaytan: Part 1 &2 And a cold wind blows in these halls....For now. Or so I hope.
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[Mil-Otaku Mode] That’s acutally an electrically driven gatling gun a chain gun is a different weapon similar in that both use an external power source rather then harnessing some of the energy of the cartridges themselves to cycle the weapon, but still different concepts. The most well know chain gun is probably the M242 25mm weapon used on the Bradley fighting vehicle though other sizes right down to small arms exist. The main advantage of this type of weapon is very high reliability examples have been know to fire over 100,000 rounds without a stoppage. [/Mil-Otaku Mode] Now as Compensation for that nonsense some video of a what a Mini-gun can do! Spoiler for Video Spam:
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*presses a button to open an air lock and dump the guys out the back where they simply explode* “No doesn’t seem like they can.”
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2008-05-26, 17:04 | Link #329 | |
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2008-05-26, 17:31 | Link #330 |
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Just bear in mind that even at the end of A's, the Tome of the Night Sky HAS NOT BEEN DEBUGGED!
All that happened was that the defence program was separated out, delaying but not stopping the book from going berserk again. That's the whole reason the book had to be destroyed and Reinforce I killed. Because otherwise, the STILL CORRUPTED book would have rebooted it's defence program and done it all over again. And the only reason THIS halfway solution was possible was because the Book WANTED it to happen, because Hayate Had treated it differently than any other master before it. That's why Reinforce tried to keep Hayate dreaming in the book: as long as Hayate remained in the book, the book could not kill her. And with the books reincarnation function active, there is no reason such a state of affairs couldn't go on forever...But Hayate wasn't for wearing that, and managed to -with the books explicit consent and assistance- seize control of the book and perform admin functions. But the book was still corrupted... But Nobody in the Bureau knew any of this until the actual battles, least of all Gil Graham. As far as anyone was concerned, the Yami-No-Sho was exactly what Chrono Described it as " an incredibly dangerous magical Tome that CANNOT be stopped". Yuuno explained that attempts to seal or destroy the book before completion simply led to the book absorbing it's current master and reincarnating somewhere else. If the master is taken out before it's complete, the book reincarnates somewhere else. Once complete, of course, the Defence program takes over, and the book, according to Yuuno and Chrono " devours everything around it and grows infinitely in size." Hence the only window for Gil Graham's plan is immediately after the book's completion, but before it goes berserk. The biggest flaw in the Gil=Bad guy argument, though, is that he has no motive to seize the book himself. what could he gain? Power? he's already the top person in charge of the whole TSAB. Personal power? maybe the book's reincarnation power as a form of immortality? the book can't have more than one master, and the moment it's master is gone, IT chooses the next. More to the point, being immortal for the ten minutes you'd get before the book goes berserk and destroys you along with everything around you (as far as anyone knows) isn't a terribly good deal. knowledge? He's got the infinity library for that. The only motive for Gil I can see here is unfinished business bordering on revenge. It killed his friend Clyde, it shattered a family, it stained his record, it caught him napping, and it'll do it again unless Gil ties up that nagging thread for good. The only way he can see of doing that is the plan he puts forward, because that's what experience from the other masters has told him. So he found out who the next Master was, and set her up, waiting until she seized the power for her own. He knew about the WolkenRitter collecting pages, but probably assumed they were working on Hayate's orders, not realising it was even possible for them to do the collection off their own bat in secret. (this might also have served as a sap to his conscience, believing that if she'd ordered the WolkenRitter out to collect pages, that Hayate had been tempted by power and turned as bad as the other masters...) so he, Lotte and Aria help 'Hayate's' collection along, and when the time is right, they enrage Hayate to keep her off balance and occupy her, making her waste her time where she might've been in control (and so able to oppose them) until the defence program takes her over and starts to go berserk. At which point, they freeze her and the book, and seal her into a limbo dimension. It's a rational transaction, right? one life for thousands...maybe millions if the Arc-en-Ciel doesn't arrive in time... except, of course, that she wasn't asked, and as Chrono said, such things have a way of being found...(One Ring to bring them all?) As for why she wasn't asked...well, Hayate as of first receiving the book would probably have actually gone with the plan. After spending some time with the Wolkenritter, maybe not so much... More to the point, though, the book would probably have recognised any such attempt to persuade it's master and made like Yuuno says happens when the master is interfered with before completion: absorbed the master and reincarnated elsewhere, leaving the plan useless in any event. If Gil Graham is guilty of anything, it's faulty judgement bordering on obsession, as well as an unhealthy 'ends justify the means' string of rationalisations, |
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I still can't wrap my head around Gil = Good Guy, but I do see your point, Kero. I'm probably the only one who's reading him this way, but for reasons I can't quite put my finger on, Gil gives me a severe case of Gilbert Durandal vibes, and not just because of his name. I cannot help but feel that he is up to no good somehow. My initial idea post-StrikerS was that he was connected somehow to the High Council, maybe the Navy's version of Regius or something. ...bah, enough conspiracy theories, time to get back to work on Kiritsugu.
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2008-05-26, 18:10 | Link #333 |
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Name: Asclei Foresythe Age: 25 Gender: Male Height: 171 cm Weight: ?? kg Place of Birth: 367th Aldian research facility Hair Color: Black Eye Color: Dark Red Mage Type: Aldian Knight Magic Array: Aldian Magic Color: Dark Red Elemental Affinity: Lightning Mage/Knight Rank: SS+ Threat Level: SSS Known as: The Ark of Lightning, 13th Lance, Blood Hound of Aldia, Affiliation: Aldia - One of the thirteen kings lance Albion - One of the Seven Arks Combat Vest (Barrier Jacket): Primary Phase, Delta Form Arms (Device): Silvance Catch Phrase: “Ittou Ryoudan” ( 一刀両断) Combat Vest: Delta Form: Asclei’s default barrier jacket. The thoracic plate enforces the defense of Asclei’s chest area. It also prevents any direct attacks on the linker core like what Lotte did to Fate in the 2nd season. Arms: Silvance Arms Type: Combat Arms (V1-4) Arms Storage Form: Card (V1-4) Arms Modes: Assault Form – Zweihander Twin Blade Form – Two singled edged swords ( Gunnerz Form – Rifle ( Foresythe Form – A giant scythe with 2 blades attached to its sides Kryton Form - Two blades joined together by a hilt located at the center. Spoiler for Personality:
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I did mention that Asclei transforms whenever he needs to spy on others and gather informatin...right? Anyway, Lanos and the others didn't know about what form Asclei transforms into. However, Fate later found out about it. Here's a sketch of Fate's expression when she realized that the person before her is...well...you can pretty much tell XD. Spoiler for eeeeeeeeh?!!!!!!!!!!!:
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2008-05-26, 18:14 | Link #334 |
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You guys enjoy that minigun 'kay?
In the mean time, I'm working on an idea that in the big island fight, the main disposal storage site is going to have to be disposed of in and of itself to keep the S-21 punks from getting away with it. In short, Roland gets all 'Scortched Earth Tactics' on it... The question now is: "How much explosive content is the MAIN bunker (At the disposal site) storing? 100 tons? Spoiler for BOOM!:
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Tch as noted there was NOTHING faulty about his reasoning and it was morally correct under a number of ethical systems. The good of the many is a TOTALLY viable and accepted foundation for making choices when confronted by ethical dilemmas which by there very nature are difficult and tend to lack a decisive "right" answer. Whether you agree with it is something else, but to say his logic was faulty or he wasn't using valid ethical judgment is simplistic and absurd IMO, and can only vaugely even be argued based on an outcome he couldn't have foreseen as even possible given the information available to him. IMO he used sound judgment and made his decision based on the information he had and given the same information I'd have supported his plan completely. One little girl to possibly save and entire world and dozens even hundreds more in the future? Only the most thick headed and philosophical of twits would even attempt to debate this issue. Hell if his plan had worked as intended he'd likely have been hailed a HERO. It's only by applying knowledge gained afterwards that he had no way of knowing that one can make ANY sort of argument his plan was amoral or unethical which is totally unfair and amounts to Sunday morning quarter backing. The plan was cold hearted perhaps, and seems more so since we all happen to like Hayate but that's not the same thing as being wrong or amoral and to try and make him seem like a villain base on it is just outright character assassination IMO.
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The arguement was initially made under the belief that Gil had perfect or near-perfect intelligence about the internal workings of the BoD, the presence of Reinforce, the viral defense program, and the Wolkenritter. Now it's since been pointed out to me that the bureau didn't have anywhere near perfect intelligence on the Book so my argument went south rather quickly, but the Harry Truman example doesn't hold up because Truman didn't have perfect intelligence on the Japanese forces, the resolve of the people, etc. If he had had perfect intelligence, and he still couldn't come up with a plan besides nuking the place, then he would have been an idiot in my decidedly-less-than-professional opinion. You know, I'm ready to drop this discussion any time if you guys are.
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sorry if that wasn't clear...I was presenting what he could be accused of, if someone wanted to, not what I would accuse him of. For, while he is obviously somewhat obsessed with the book to some degree (he's been running a covert plot off company time for eleven years...), his plan is not obviously flawed from a technical standpoint. The plan itself, like I said, is a rational transaction...one life against Thousands, and I can accept that. The Bureau doesn't have to accept it. In a Bureaucracy, there always Has to be someone to blame. Bear in mind, Chrono obviously feels that annihilating thousands of Earthers with the Arc-en-Ciel is preferable to compromising his principles over Gil's plan. If he wanted, he could have just let them carry on with it, or even pitched in with it. And this is before he knows any different than they do and that there may be an alternative.Instead, he arrests them, derails the plan and proceeds to deliver an ultimatum to the cast that is only narrowly averted by a blue sky idea that just happened to work out. Personally, I think Gil was doing the right thing based on what he knew. The fact that he got caught and stopped does not necessarily invalidate that. But it's highly likely that many of the particulars of the 'Mage attack' and 'book of Darkness' cases that were handled less than perfectly would have been piled onto Graham's plate after the fact because hindsight is always 20/20 and just because he'd make a convenient patsy for other parties in the bureau. And so Gil Graham Stands down after A's before he can be accused of unsound judgement, faulty reasoning etc. |
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