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maximilianjenus · 2012-07-17, 15:34

I read the mods are already unsheathing bancalibur, so good luck craxuan.

anyway, regarding muvluv alternative i am holding off on playing the game because there is a good chance now that it will also get made into an anime.

Jan-Poo · 2012-07-17, 15:37

Really? Source?

Or is it just speculation?

Triple_R · 2012-07-17, 15:52

Personally, I'm glad that the Geopolitical thread was spliced off from this one, and put on the Game forum.

That being said, if anybody wants to voice their concern on how spoilers are treated on Anime Suki, this thread might be a good place to do so.

Village Idiot · 2012-07-17, 16:05

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Originally Posted by tsunade666

I did visited those 2 threads and I even posted on the tech thread. Concerning the nukes but after a while I thought I should just play the game so I restrained myself for further viewing it. The only trouble part probably is because it looks like I need to finish extra first before unlimited by information I get from wiki.

I would watch the anime for now. Because someone answered that the story here in total eclipse won't matter much or make a difference on the main story and just consider it 2 different stories but its more like this story is prequel?

So when someone mentioned that they are testing stuff for the main stuff then its probably true that showing total eclipse would be a test run for the alternative.

Total Eclipse is a side story

It takes place before the main storyline of Alternative begins with new characters and a completely different location/purpose, so just enjoy TE.

Of course TE assumes you're already familiar with the Alternative universe, so we'll see how indepth the anime will try to explain things.

Keroko · 2012-07-17, 16:49

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Originally Posted by AmeNoJaku

I know that late-night TV anime are an overpriced promotion for their original material, but I had no idea that an H-VN could degrade into a mecha franchise

Not all VN authors write highschool romance stories all the time. Take Fate/Stay Night for example, H-VN as its medium, but a fantasy story at its core. A novel can be whatever the author of it wants to be, how does this even remotely seem surprising?

AmeNoJaku · 2012-07-17, 17:01

Because Kinoko Nasu does not write thousands of pages to sell the toys of his employer, but his own work. It's a difference in objectives and target audience.

maximilianjenus · 2012-07-17, 17:51

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Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

Really? Source?

Or is it just speculation?

speculation

Keroko · 2012-07-17, 17:59

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Originally Posted by AmeNoJaku

Because Kinoko Nasu does not write thousands of pages to sell the toys of his employer, but his own work. It's a difference in objectives and target audience.

Figurines are toys too, you know.

Jan-Poo · 2012-07-17, 18:07

I guess AmeNoJaku means that selling Saber figurines wasn't Nasu's main objective when he wrote FSN, while this particular anime seems to have mecha merchandize as at least one of its main purposes.

That being said I think that when it comes to Anime usually they can deliver good works even when there are strong commercial objectives behind them.

DragoonKain3 · 2012-07-17, 19:06

Meh, almost all anime are guilty of 'strong commercial objectives.' I see no difference if they're trying to market toys or sell dvds. Or in the case of Nasu like other LN-based works, the anime of his works are largely made just to sell more of LNs. :shrug:

DoomRavager · 2012-07-17, 19:39

Total Eclipse LNs weren't just to sell TSF figures, they were also very much for the purpose of infodumping large quantities of technical information about TSFs and TSF development that he didn't get to put in Alternative, also descriptions and pics of TSFs that weren't in Alternative. And it's not like they started selling toys right after the game came out to cash in right away, it took quite a while for them to start. Not like games were sponsored by toy makers either.

So, I wouldn't say that Yoshimune was writing the franchise with sales of TSF figures and kits as his primary purpose, though that was probably a part of Total Eclipse (seeing also that the A3 and Revoltech sales were part of what convinced them to fund the anime), and I guess some other side stuff.

Marcus H. · 2012-07-17, 19:50

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wings are not the only mechanism to achieve flight

I'm imagining those Laser-type BETAs using their laser beams to launch themselves in the air.

Azuma Denton · 2012-07-17, 19:51

What is the title of Insert Song by GRANRODEO in eps 3??

NoemiChan · 2012-07-17, 19:54

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

I'm imagining those Laser-type BETAs using their laser beams to launch themselves in the air.

Beam thrusters? hehehe. Why do I have some FMP feelings... after watching?

Marcus H. · 2012-07-17, 21:23

Speaking of Lasers, THEY'RE HERE!

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NoemiChan · 2012-07-17, 21:25

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

Speaking of Lasers, THEY'RE HERE!

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At least they're edible... Kill and eat them instead!!!

Silvance · 2012-07-17, 21:31

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Originally Posted by GenjiChan

At least they're edible... Kill and eat them instead!!!

I wonder if the BETA are edible... I never thought of that before.

Myssa Rei · 2012-07-17, 21:32

Edible BETAs? Reminds me of, mmm, Reticulan burgers.

(bonus for those who recognize THAT reference, and no it's not connected to Muv Luv)

Silvance · 2012-07-17, 21:41

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Edible BETAs? Reminds me of, mmm, Reticulan burgers.

(bonus for those who recognize THAT reference, and no it's not connected to Muv Luv)

Argh... Don't know what you're referring to.

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Originally Posted by Azuma Denton

What is the title of Insert Song by GRANRODEO in eps 3??

oops. Forgot to reply on this one.

The title of the song is NO PLACE LIKE A STAGE

Myssa Rei · 2012-07-17, 21:50

Off Topic: Reticulan Burgers are a reference to a Lets Play of UFO: Aftershock, kind of a spriitual successor to X-Com. Basically the player was getting so many reticulan (read: alien) corpses that they didn't know what to do with them. The answer? Research alternative uses for them! The end result, of course, was the Reticulan Burger. Heh.

On Topic: ... Though in the case of the BETAs I don't think it's viable. Hmm, come to think of it, in the aftermath of the Kyoto defense, there's a suspicious lack of BETA corpses lying around compared to the sheer amount of human dead (as shown by the mass graves and bodybags).

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Jan-Poo 別にいいけど Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: forever lost inside a logic error	Really? Source? Or is it just speculation? __________________

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Triple_R Senior Member Author Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Age: 42	Personally, I'm glad that the Geopolitical thread was spliced off from this one, and put on the Game forum. That being said, if anybody wants to voice their concern on how spoilers are treated on Anime Suki, this thread might be a good place to do so. __________________

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Jan-Poo 別にいいけど Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: forever lost inside a logic error	I guess AmeNoJaku means that selling Saber figurines wasn't Nasu's main objective when he wrote FSN, while this particular anime seems to have mecha merchandize as at least one of its main purposes. That being said I think that when it comes to Anime usually they can deliver good works even when there are strong commercial objectives behind them. __________________

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DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	Meh, almost all anime are guilty of 'strong commercial objectives.' I see no difference if they're trying to market toys or sell dvds. Or in the case of Nasu like other LN-based works, the anime of his works are largely made just to sell more of LNs. :shrug: __________________ Yes its YOU childhood friend - source of BERZERKER RAGE since forever Childhood Friend couple STATISTICS(spoilers abound though)

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Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	Speaking of Lasers, THEY'RE HERE! Images Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

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maximilianjenus [E] Join Date: Mar 2008	I read the mods are already unsheathing bancalibur, so good luck craxuan. anyway, regarding muvluv alternative i am holding off on playing the game because there is a good chance now that it will also get made into an anime.

2012-07-17, 17:01	Link #1026
AmeNoJaku Franco's Phalanx is next! Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Little England, Europe and Asia	Because Kinoko Nasu does not write thousands of pages to sell the toys of his employer, but his own work. It's a difference in objectives and target audience.

2012-07-17, 19:39	Link #1031
DoomRavager Senior Member Join Date: May 2010	Total Eclipse LNs weren't just to sell TSF figures, they were also very much for the purpose of infodumping large quantities of technical information about TSFs and TSF development that he didn't get to put in Alternative, also descriptions and pics of TSFs that weren't in Alternative. And it's not like they started selling toys right after the game came out to cash in right away, it took quite a while for them to start. Not like games were sponsored by toy makers either. So, I wouldn't say that Yoshimune was writing the franchise with sales of TSF figures and kits as his primary purpose, though that was probably a part of Total Eclipse (seeing also that the A3 and Revoltech sales were part of what convinced them to fund the anime), and I guess some other side stuff.

2012-07-17, 19:51	Link #1033
Azuma Denton ~AD~ Join Date: Oct 2006	What is the title of Insert Song by GRANRODEO in eps 3??

2012-07-17, 21:32	Link #1038
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Edible BETAs? Reminds me of, mmm, Reticulan burgers. (bonus for those who recognize THAT reference, and no it's not connected to Muv Luv) __________________

2012-07-17, 21:50	Link #1040
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Off Topic: Reticulan Burgers are a reference to a Lets Play of UFO: Aftershock, kind of a spriitual successor to X-Com. Basically the player was getting so many reticulan (read: alien) corpses that they didn't know what to do with them. The answer? Research alternative uses for them! The end result, of course, was the Reticulan Burger. Heh. On Topic: ... Though in the case of the BETAs I don't think it's viable. Hmm, come to think of it, in the aftermath of the Kyoto defense, there's a suspicious lack of BETA corpses lying around compared to the sheer amount of human dead (as shown by the mass graves and bodybags). __________________