(L) Jormungand

[grss1982]

Originally Posted by ookamigirl

This one kinda reminds me of Black Lagoon.
Jonah... he kinda reminds me of Revy ^^
Think he's gonna be my fav character.
Kako sure can be pretty funny, especially when sleepwalking LOL
I like this one, will be watching it.

I LOL-ed at that part as well as the part wherein she rolls like a spoiled brat on the table after not getting her way.

Originally Posted by Arya

Watched, and well, it seemed not a first episode, it was rushed, a bit confusing, but the overall felling remembered me of FMP! Not for the art style that it wasn't memorable.
Even if the action scenes were more similar to an american movie .. lot of bullets, explosions, dull enemies, that make the show a bit approximate and less serious than probably they meant it to be.
Anyways, I'll keep watching to see where they are going to go

Gives me a Black Lagoon vibe actually, since it does not use any "black" technology like FMP.

BTW, Grenade > Javelin?

[Dextro]

Originally Posted by Allium

Anyway, that was a rather entertaining first episode.

I just cannot take that song out of my head. Spent all day yesterday singing it to myself. Guess I'm the one going loco

[MrTerrorist]

^How about this?

[Cipher]

Originally Posted by KilluaX90

@Cipher: The episode is kinda rushed so let me try to clarify it a bit:

What happened in the first part: you get the gist of it. You should know that by increasing the tension, Koko can sell weapons to neighbor countries, too. In other words, she has created a profitable market (not sure about this, someone with economics major can help).

How does this help her "promote peace"? She mentioned that that was the point of her arms trading, right?

What are the countries involved and how exactly are they affected by each other's number of weapons?

The second part: A certain arms dealer tried to invade her market, so she had her men persuade the client with a better deal while getting rid of her competitor.

ahhh. I see.

Why did she do both? why not just kill the competitor or just persuade the client? And how did they manage to get invited to the other dealer's room?

Originally Posted by Cosmic Eagle

Exactly....why the confusion? You hit the nail on the head

I hit something vague. It's not enough. There's lots more details to figure out.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by Cipher

How does this help her "promote peace"? She mentioned that that was the point of her arms trading, right?

What are the countries involved and how exactly are they affected by each other's number of weapons?



ahhh. I see.

Why did she do both? why not just kill the competitor or just persuade the client? And how did they manage to get invited to the other dealer's room?

Needed the Mi-24 contract to be voided first...him being alive makes it look better I guess...

The dealer himself arranged it. The snipers are clear sign he prepared the set up. Just that he never counted on Koko's team being so deadly.

If that nation's MiGs are upgraded, they will be more bold in taking the offensive to their foes.

BTW, Grenade > Javelin?

Technically possible....good luck timing it right though...


Also...what are the chances Koko is loco I said OH NO being part of the full OP?

[creb]

It wasn't a matter of Grenade > Javelin. It was a heat source far more intense than their car.

[Cosmic Eagle]

Originally Posted by creb

It wasn't a matter of Grenade > Javelin. It was a heat source far more intense than their car.

Plus the blast itself screwing up the missile...you know, with the frag ball bearings and all...

[klare]

i do like elite team action without any super-human over-power characters, but this team has a bit too many members, have trouble remembering them all

surprisingly, Jonah likes plush dolls!

and "world peace" yeah haha

[KilluaX90]

Originally Posted by Cipher

How does this help her "promote peace"? She mentioned that that was the point of her arms trading, right?

What are the countries involved and how exactly are they affected by each other's number of weapons?

ahhh. I see.

Why did she do both? why not just kill the competitor or just persuade the client? And how did they manage to get invited to the other dealer's room?

I hit something vague. It's not enough. There's lots more details to figure out.

You actually believe her crap about selling weapons for world peace?

The countries' names weren't mentioned in the manga so I don't know. All I can deduct from that guy's words is that the country isn't on good terms with its neighbors and if the military get their hands on the cargo, the tension will rise and there could be war. The rest are my own speculation, so you can disagree with me.

As for why she did those things, you can speculate to some certain degree if you give it some thought. My guess is that she had to kill him to make him an example to warn other arms dealers, and because he probably belonged to some company, killing him didn't void the transaction so she had to persuade the client with her deal.

You can actually find this anime more enjoyable if you don't think too deeply and demand answer for everything

[Cosmic Eagle]

Also I would say that smashing her head in as good as signed his death warrant...

[dfens]

It was never mentioned in the manga but from owning all the volumes it is strongly hinted Jonnah is from some European country the whole white hair red eyes throws off where he's from but he is not a native african from one part of the manga where they visit africa even though he has dark skin.

As for what's going on in the first episode. Koko's company is selling upgrades to a certain countries military that will put them on level playing fields with their neighboring country who they are enemies with. So a rouge member of the military wants to prevent the merchandise from reaching the air force even if it goes against his countries wishes.

The Volkesh 6 members are a elite team of soldiers he ordered to stop the deal by killing the arms dealer, they failed.

The second part a arms dealer from a rival company showed up and wants a piece of the pie when Koko wants to be the only arms dealer in the picture. So killing him would solve nothing they would just send another broker to pick up where he left off. By getting the client to void the contract and killing the dealer she sent a message this territory is mine don't go trying to sale weapons without my permission.

For World Peace is exactly what she believes in. If you read the whole manga series weapons can be used for good or bad, deterrents but what the client uses them for is not her problem and she has no qualms about it. So having a weapon gives you possibilities vs being unarmed and at the mercy of your foes.

[DangerMouse]

Originally Posted by Tempest35

Heh, I picked up the manga a few months a go and read through a bit so I know what I'm getting into. 1st episode felt a bit rushed but that's to be expected. It's interesting enough for me to keep watching and sorry but I did feel a slight Black Lagoon vibe from it (possibly because of the gun porn/visuals). The slow fall of the expended casing(s) will always invoke that in me.

I still think it's weird apologizing for it giving a Black Lagoon vibe, since Black Lagoon is awesome it still seems like a compliment to me even if they are a bit different thanks to their execution while being in the same general genre as described by the book example earlier since this type of thing is so rare that it's pretty natural to use Black Lagoon as a link when describing the show to someone who liked Black Lagoon to try to get them to try this.

Great first ep!

[Arya]

Originally Posted by grss1982

Gives me a Black Lagoon vibe actually, since it does not use any "black" technology like FMP.

Yep, I should have been more specific. I didn't mean it related to the main plot, but more to Sousuke/Kashim past. And BL, IIRC had more serious and less generic settings.

[OliverTwist]

Just watched the first episode on a whim. The OP gave off strong Black Lagoon vibes, which is a good thing imo, but I can't say I was all that excited after watching the episode. There seems to be way too many chars to keep track of if this is only 12 episodes and none of them seem that interesting so far.

I'll probably give this another episode or two, maybe it'll pick up if the team doesn't execute everything perfect, isn't immune to actually getting hit by weapons, and some of them die. Otherwise it's kinda bleh.

[totoum]

Originally Posted by OliverTwist

There seems to be way too many chars to keep track of if this is only 12 episodes

It's split 2 cour,so there's 1 cour this season and another this fall.

[MrTerrorist]

Here's an interesting info from a commenter on Random Curiosity.

the cityscape looks like Prague or Krakow, so it could be eitehr Czech Republic or Poland (both countries use MiG-29s and Mi-24s, so the tech side matches too)

[Yu Ominae]

Could work since the two countries use Western-made weapons and are integrated into NATO's military structure.

Was the letters for Voshkod 6 Cyrillic or another European language?

[Funkatron]

So far my take on the show = Black Lagoon modernized plus Setsuna F. Sagara... or is it Sosuke F Seiei?

[Same_Shark]

I had no idea the first episode was going to be so bad-ass! It pretty much had everything I like in action anime. Koko gave me about 5 good laughs during this episode. As for Jonah, he's just plain awesome in that creepy child soldier way.

[Kismet-chan]

Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

^How about this?

That table roll was one of my most favorite things Koko did all episode, personally.