2013-07-12, 11:43 | Link #81 | |
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and to clarify for people who can't resist dropping scientific terms into a magical story about impossible things: meteoroids travel around the sun in their own orbits. meteors are what they become when they enter earth's atmosphere. and meteorites are what they become if they hit the earth's surface i'm not sure what their scientific term is when they are stopped by an old flying ninja in mid-air though... |
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2013-07-12, 13:00 | Link #82 | |
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2013-07-12, 13:35 | Link #84 | |
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It sure was not a meteor since those have huge speeds and that is what is much more important than it's size and weight. The thing that was stopped by the old man was just a gaint rock falling down after Madara summoned it above the alliance. If it were a real meteor at that huge size being already so close to the ground then it's effect would have been much more devastating than a huge chakra bomb of the 10-tails that we already saw. It's effect would be something like the tunguska event or this. I'm not sure how large the rock was but i'm sure it did not have a 6 km. radius which would destroy most of intelligent life on the planet. So the jutsu was far weaker than the power levels in DBZ when they wiped out planets But if it was a real meteorite it would have wiped out the entire alliance force before they even realized it's coming. So it was just a huge rock Of course one could say that he summoned the meteor itself but without it's space speed relative to earth But then another who's geek enough should debate that such a meteor should be very cold, for example -200 degrees cold, so the tsuchikage's arms should be frozen when he touches it Or maybe very hot? But then it should burn his hands. An educated geek will probably know this
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So i always assumed that normal humans can't create the moon because it would require too much chakra. Not even the Sage of 6 paths. That's why Nagato commented that his version is nothing compared to the moon. Therefore i assumed that the sage could create this *after* he sealed in himself the 10-tails and he actually used the huge chakra of the 10-tails to do this. If i remember correctly Madara explained at the kage summit that after the Sage sealed the 10-tails in himself he was more than a human, he was like a god. When the 10-tails is sealed in a person it's body is also inside that person, so it makes sense that the Sage created the moon only shortly before he died. But as we see he was talking to the 9 chibi-tailed beasts so it seems the Sage could unseal the 10-tails from his own body while using for this the chakra of the 10-tails itself and survive the whole thing (BTW that would also make it more likely that he was from the Uzumaki bloodline since normal people die when the tailed beast is removed). Unless i'm wrong and the Sage had a huge chakra of his own to do this, but in that case why would he want to seal the tailed beast into himself, in that case he could have just done all this sealing into the moon from the start and not using his own body as a prison. Last edited by Ero-Senn1n; 2013-07-12 at 13:57. |
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2013-07-12, 14:18 | Link #85 | |
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Then again it could all be irrelevant because we can't assume their universe is like ours. After all their moon didn't form the same way ours was, what's to say there aren't other glaring differences.
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2013-07-12, 14:52 | Link #86 | |
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also, in the narutoverse, i dont think the meteor was a summoning of earth from the planet. we saw how nagato used the rinnegan to form giant spheres of rock and madara didn't do that. he also wouldn't have had time to make one and leave it around in wait for him to summon it since his edo revival. which only leaves him making it after achieving rinnegan when he was very old and before he died. i for one, don't think a giant rock sphere he made in the past has been laying around since his death, but it is possible i suppose. i think it's more likely that kishi didn't put any scientific thought into the technique (which is the correct way to go about things if you've been following naruto for any period of time since nothing is bound by our scientific laws) and just had madara pull down a meteor from space. i would prefer techniques like this never happened in naruto since they should be well beyond what a ninja could and should do imho, but it's there and it happened and i wouldn't worry about the physics. might as well try to explain why alice shrank and grew, or why a beanstalk would grow so high, or why wearing a ring would turn the wearer invisible, etc... |
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2013-07-13, 16:24 | Link #90 | |
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Orochimaru now is nothing more then a sidekick of Sasuke, he's never going evil again. As for the rest, since Obito has essentially attained the power of the Sage, he should still be able to cast Rinne Tensei on Madara. Ofcourse, for that to happen I believe Madara would need to release the Edo Tensei on him first. Somehow I think that gap is going to be crucial to defeating Madara.
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2013-07-14, 06:05 | Link #91 | |
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Or Orochimaru as some suggest, but i think Orochimaru won't be a villain in this arc, if he becomes then it will be in a next arc, which means that the story will continue beyond this war, which is what a naruto-fan would like, so i'm ok with Orochi being the next evil boss But i think the role of advisor of Sasuke would be a more fitting role for him, since the current generation (Naruto and Sasuke) are now taking the lead so the sannin and kage generation are put back into advisor/support/secondary roles. I assume there will be a final clash between two ideologies (of the 2 sons of the sage of 6 paths) between Naruto and Sasuke, and Orochi will support Sasuke. |
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2013-07-14, 09:59 | Link #92 |
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Orochimaru is an allusive character indeed and any guess as to what he might do in future events is viable.I think he takes somewhat of a neutral stance,like a mad scientist.Whatever his goal ultimately is specifically, i don't know, but it's probably along the lines of Dr.Frankenstein,who wanted to have the power of life.The reference he made to Tsunade about letting others put things in motion is along the line of what he said to the 3rd Hokage,something like"i like to put things in motion".This kind of thing makes me feel he might be behind everything going on right now.
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2013-07-14, 17:20 | Link #94 | |
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i highly suspect at some point we will see a complete juubi and new true So6P and i think obito will be finished before then, which leaves orochi, madara, naruto and/or sasuke. even though madara has been around for a lot of chapters now, he's still a very new villain time-wise so i can't place him as ultimate villain of the series. it's either orochi or possibly sasuke |
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2013-07-15, 03:20 | Link #95 |
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Why is everyone so anxious about Orochimaru? The guy has been killed / sealed three or four times already, and besides there are lots of people right now who outclass him in power and technique, namely Naruto and Killer Bee.
But honestly, I don't even want to see Orochimaru go evil again. Then what the hell was that emotional scene with Tsunade for? They're finally building Orochimaru up to be a good dramatic character, why would they ruin that with "Lol just trollin I'm evil after all"? In the end, both Sasuke and Orochimaru have redeemed themselves. Orochimaru even seemed a bit sad about Jiraiya's death. I think it's great this way.
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Orochimaru is that type of character that's like "I let you kill me and seal me so i could obtain a secret,and i knew you would betray me". Orochimaru was never pure evil in my opinion,just the ultimate ninja. I would imagine from a lab rats perspective the scientist searching for a cure is the ultimate evil.
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2013-07-16, 22:10 | Link #99 | |
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as for obito, he maybe stronger than the already dead kages, but as long as they are in the field of play they will be formidable soldiers. hell, minato alone did away with most powerful bijuu dama while the rest of the alliance was busy putting up wallpaper... madaras trump card.............sage mode
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2013-07-25, 07:32 | Link #100 |
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i'm pretty sure the logs and meteors are not chakra. the logs are actual logs used for replacement escape techniques. and the meteors are actual rock formations from space
Rock formations in space that size are too small to form a spherical shape,and there are no impact craters on it.Not that a summons couldn't work,it certainly could and speed and distance don't matter cause a summons is instant.So logs may be summoned too certainly. |
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