2014-02-06, 20:54 | Link #4822 |
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I've heard people claim that the blood of the children acts as the catalyst there. Personally I think that is stretching the idea to breaking point (especially since, if the blood of some children is a catalyst, then the master's personality surely can be too...), but it is always possible to find some excuse if you're really looking for one.
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2014-02-07, 09:38 | Link #4825 |
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I think the argument probably stems from the fact that Tohsaka explicitly says in UBW that a relic is necessary, and her thinking that she could do it without one was just naive.
That being said, I think its something more like "if the ritual can find something to use as a relic, it will do so every time" rather than "if the ritual can't find a relic, the summoning fails." For example, I too am skeptical about the whole Caster summoning thing in Fate/Zero - even if there was some sort of catalyst involved, the pairing seems far to appropriate for it to have been decided by another means. On that note, you can also use the summoning of Assassin in Fate as evidence for summoning without a relic being possible. After all, if he wasn't really an actual person, it would be pretty hard to find some physical object that was connected to him. I'm sure someone can argue the point, but it at least seems to me that the only deciding factor on his summoning was Caster's attributes. |
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2014-02-07, 15:01 | Link #4829 |
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The quote I was talking about was when she was talking about (well, monologuing about) when she first found out Archer's true identity. The point was, she thought that she had done the summoning without a relic, but the ritual took her pendant and used it as a relic despite her not having that intention.
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2014-02-11, 21:26 | Link #4831 |
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So, uh, this is a somewhat odd question...
For those of you who have watched Code Geass, what do you think Kiritsugu's Geass would be? Every Geass manifests differently, and is usually related to their inner desires/personality. So what would Kiritsugu's Geass manifest as? Any thoughts? |
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